# The fight for Not Red Don't Shoot (NRDS) Providence region continues! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** null-sec, pvp\ **Created:** [October 8, 2020, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-for-not-red-dont-shoot-nrds-providence-region-continues/272194 "2020-10-08T21:18:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-for-not-red-dont-shoot-nrds-providence-region-continues/272194/123 "2020-12-04T09:54:00Z")
Question from an Amarr renegade to an Amarr loyalist; If Provi is so interesting to Amarr, how come its never been annexed? ---
**Author:** ![Caldranna](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caldranna/32/244325_2.png) [@Caldranna](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caldranna)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-for-not-red-dont-shoot-nrds-providence-region-continues/272194/124 "2020-12-04T16:51:31Z")
Why would the Holy Amarr Empire want to annex Providence officially, spend their own resources fighting to maintain the hold of it, moreover risk CONCORD’s sanctions, and further disturb the balance with the other Empires or even risk another war with the Jove. Why would they if the resourceful loyal Capsuleers can fight for Providence out of their own vollition? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-for-not-red-dont-shoot-nrds-providence-region-continues/272194/125 "2020-12-04T17:01:25Z")
> [@Caldranna](#): > > spend their own resources fighting to maintain the hold of it Because it means something to them? Or doesnt it? Which is it? > [@Caldranna](#): > > risk CONCORD’s sanctions Why would that happen? Why wouldnt CONCORD want a frontier capsuleer state under the nominal control of an Empire? > [@Caldranna](#): > > further disturb the balance with the other Empires Disturbing the balance against the Minmatar should be Amarr’s number one priority. > [@Caldranna](#): > > even risk another war with the Jove Dont the Amarr people have God on their side? > [@Caldranna](#): > > Why would they if the resourceful loyal Capsuleers can fight for Providence out of their own vollition? Because its either part of the Kingdom of God or it isnt. Holy Land is like pregancy, it cant be “just a bit holy” ---
**Author:** ![Caldranna](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caldranna/32/244325_2.png) [@Caldranna](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caldranna)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 2:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-for-not-red-dont-shoot-nrds-providence-region-continues/272194/126 "2020-12-05T02:55:48Z")
You asked for an Amarr loyalist’s opinion. I gave it to you. If you want to know the truth, ask the Holy Amarr Empire and CONCORD themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2020, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-for-not-red-dont-shoot-nrds-providence-region-continues/272194/127 "2020-12-05T09:16:33Z")
> [@Caldranna](#): > > You asked for an Amarr loyalist’s opinion Yeah and instead I got a heretic’s. Your crusade is not sanctioned by the Throne or God. You are just using their names to give yourself some cred. Come back and pontificate when you are someone who is in a position to do something. ---
**Author:** ![Otto3d](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/otto3d/32/508591_2.png) [@Otto3d](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Otto3d)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 3:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-for-not-red-dont-shoot-nrds-providence-region-continues/272194/128 "2020-12-06T03:45:07Z")
> [@Caldranna](#): > > Therefore, in terms of the role play aspect, everyone who is a Provibloc member not fighting back in Providence, is just a disgrace to the Holy Amarr Empire and to Her Imperial Majesty Catiz I our beloved Empress. I am Caldari, so… yeah… Also, people are welcome to join us, we do not discriminate - people just simply choose not too and attack us like pirates, we are only defending our territory. ---
**Author:** ![Caldranna](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caldranna/32/244325_2.png) [@Caldranna](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caldranna)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 5:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-for-not-red-dont-shoot-nrds-providence-region-continues/272194/129 "2020-12-06T05:16:41Z")
Her Imperial Majesty Catiz I our beloved Empress recognized CVA’s efforts in Providence. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-for-not-red-dont-shoot-nrds-providence-region-continues/272194/130 "2020-12-06T05:18:25Z")
I guess Provibears set too many people red. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-for-not-red-dont-shoot-nrds-providence-region-continues/272194/131 "2020-12-06T09:10:37Z")
Recognised it by annexing Provi to make the civs there full Amarr citizens, or by making CVA an official part of the Amarr Empire? Oh wait, neither, it was ignored and abandoned. Again; not Holy, not worth a damn. This rock Im holding is a better Amarr loyalist than you. ---
**Author:** ![Caldranna](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caldranna/32/244325_2.png) [@Caldranna](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caldranna)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-for-not-red-dont-shoot-nrds-providence-region-continues/272194/132 "2020-12-06T19:30:52Z")
> **[Ramona McCandless | Character](https://zkillboard.com/character/93276556/)** > > Ramona McCandless: 2 ships destroyed and 35 ships lost. Keep talking, because doing is clearly not your thing. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-for-not-red-dont-shoot-nrds-providence-region-continues/272194/133 "2020-12-06T19:33:55Z")
What makes you say that? A KB? You arent just terrible at pretending to be an Amarr Loyalist, you’re awful at the game of Forum too. ---
**Author:** ![Gergoran\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gergoran_moussou/32/381607_2.png) [@Gergoran\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gergoran_Moussou)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-for-not-red-dont-shoot-nrds-providence-region-continues/272194/134 "2020-12-06T19:35:21Z")
They abandoned those efforts. ---
**Author:** ![Caldranna](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caldranna/32/244325_2.png) [@Caldranna](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caldranna)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2020, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-for-not-red-dont-shoot-nrds-providence-region-continues/272194/135 "2020-12-07T07:23:24Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > You arent just terrible at pretending to be an Amarr Loyalist, you’re awful at the game of Forum too. Oh, and now a traitor tells me I’m not a loyalist. Cute. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2020, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-for-not-red-dont-shoot-nrds-providence-region-continues/272194/136 "2020-12-07T08:21:27Z")
Yes thats how it works. Im looking for a proper Amarrite to confess my sins to. You dont seem to be much more than a Nullist. Besides, we are talking about Amarr never showing interest in Provi, not my crimes against God. And you havent proved Amarr ever gve a toss. Which, when you think about it is invoking God’s name in vain. Which makes you a Heretic. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2020, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-for-not-red-dont-shoot-nrds-providence-region-continues/272194/137 "2020-12-07T15:00:33Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Im looking for a proper Amarrite to confess my sins to. That’s a _lot_ of time you’re asking for… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Caldranna](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caldranna/32/244325_2.png) [@Caldranna](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caldranna)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 4:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-for-not-red-dont-shoot-nrds-providence-region-continues/272194/138 "2020-12-09T04:02:00Z")
“I give to you the destiny of Faith, And you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given.” _- The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 22:13_ I’d say it makes you talk for the sake of talking. Keep talking 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-for-not-red-dont-shoot-nrds-providence-region-continues/272194/139 "2020-12-09T07:23:28Z")
Failing an order from God is as bad as ignoring it, failure. A trained parrot can recite words without undersranding. Please reply when you have achieved… Something. ---
**Author:** ![Caldranna](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caldranna/32/244325_2.png) [@Caldranna](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caldranna)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-for-not-red-dont-shoot-nrds-providence-region-continues/272194/140 "2020-12-09T09:39:21Z")
I can reply whenever I like. A traitor is as good as a slave. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-for-not-red-dont-shoot-nrds-providence-region-continues/272194/141 "2020-12-09T11:09:09Z")
Ok then youre a slave vOv I can stop listening to your drivel. ---
**Author:** ![Theresakatharina\_Hope](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theresakatharina_hope/32/245532_2.png) [@Theresakatharina\_Hope](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theresakatharina_Hope)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-for-not-red-dont-shoot-nrds-providence-region-continues/272194/142 "2020-12-10T10:57:18Z")
What do you mean, Amarr never showing interest in Provi, Amarr never have given a toss? > **[Empress Catiz I Honors Amarr Loyalist Capsuleer Groups PIE and CVA, and...](https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/empress-catiz-i-honors-amarr-loyalist-capsuleer-groups-pie-and-cva-and-responds-to-petitions/)** Tell me I’m wrong, but this article pretty much says the opposite of what you are trying to spread here. Amarr Victor! [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-for-not-red-dont-shoot-nrds-providence-region-continues/272194.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fight-for-not-red-dont-shoot-nrds-providence-region-continues/272194.md?page=8)