# The fleet of gankers suspected of using input broadcasting **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [August 25, 2019, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620 "2019-08-25T12:26:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/195 "2019-09-12T14:28:47Z")
> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > you just got auto-bots You figure that bit out? ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/4/044a384c501bc3d0156b3c5853be3492d3e53606.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/196 "2019-09-12T14:37:58Z")
> [@Gowa\_Hyasyoda](#): > > Even if only one of you understands it is worth is even if it is only to feed my own self-importance over you all LOL wut? 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/197 "2019-09-12T15:49:04Z")
Omg I cant believe I missed that ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/199 "2019-09-12T18:07:19Z")
You dont need to log in to use the forums. Or rather, theres no point in logging out unless you want to like farm with alts. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/201 "2019-09-12T18:54:12Z")
Dude, I hate to tell you this, but I was going to reply to stupid crap I read on these forums while I take a dump -regardless of your actions. I don’t feel bad for responding to a Poe, as the nonsense you wrote was no more crazy or outlandish than something Dracvlad-or some other legitimate carebear might say. I still think the amount of time and effort you put into this counts as tears. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/203 "2019-09-12T18:59:39Z")
I still think this behavior belies a fundamental, underlying butthurt. What did you lose? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/205 "2019-09-12T20:16:26Z")
I dont hate you, I just think you are being a bit silly. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/207 "2019-09-12T20:24:44Z")
Nope, I just think this is a silly conversation. ---
**Author:** ![Uwar\_Sovakeen\_Shdubitt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uwar_sovakeen_shdubitt/32/160167_2.png) [@Uwar\_Sovakeen\_Shdubitt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uwar_Sovakeen_Shdubitt)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/209 "2019-09-12T21:51:03Z")
Exactly, this dope deserves it. Why should we bother to continue a worthless topic that has zero impact on the game when this guy is clearly insane. I would also like to reiterate everything we have all been saying since he opened his mouth in here. Your posts are annoying long drivel, you’re paranoid, you’re delusional living in a fantasy, you’re boring, you’re a carebear, you’re butthurt, you’re weak, you’re stupid, and a pathetic loser. your silly, this is silly! We are ALL LAUGHING AT YOU! GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD AND JUST STOP! Just thought I would be nice to ALL of you and ignore this dickhead and everything he says. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/210 "2019-09-12T21:57:01Z")
Don’t blame me if this doesn’t fit. I don’t read your drivel, I just drunk post some shite ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 12:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/211 "2019-09-13T00:27:45Z")
> [@Gowa\_Hyasyoda](#): > > If your thinking about gankers well lets just say they will be spending many more years than they can continue playing this game to really get back what they lost to me. I read this several times over. Still not sure what you are trying to communicate here. Is English not your first language? ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/212 "2019-09-13T06:35:07Z")
> [@Gowa\_Hyasyoda](#): > > P.S- your still welcome You are or you’re. ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/213 "2019-09-14T07:04:52Z")
> [@Kalorned](#): > > I for once stand with the gankee’s on this matter - multiboxing and input broadcasting has become an unstoppable scourge and yet CCP does nothing. LOL. In case some here missed this, you may have some additional giggles by taking a look at who liked that post. This is even funnier when you know who is Kalorned and who ganked who that was the cause of this thread. 🤣 > [@Black\_Pedro](#): > > > [@Dracvlad](#): > > > > He was not tethered, he was 350 km off the gate. > > Ok, but then how does he align? There is no fleet align command. Well, sometimes Dracvlad knows what he’s talking about, sometimes he doesn’t, sometimes he just makes up stuff. This was already discussed in another thread where he brought up this nonsense too. He seems to believe outlaws in space need to be pre-aligned to not be caught by faction police or something, and hence _assumed_ that gang was pre-aligned when you may bet what really happened is he simply saw the normal alignment process that precedes the warp after issuing the warp fleet command. But of course he will keep saying otherwise and even use it as “proof” that the ganker had to be input broadcasting because how else could the whole fleet be aligning together if there is no align fleet command? And don’t expect him to ever see the same again either, much less report it himself, now that this would require him to more carefully observe what really happens after having been told multiple times how all this stuff works. This is simply going to be yet another of those unverifiable stories he’s gonna be bringing up in each and every ganking thread from now on and use as an “example” to tell _others_ to file a bogus input broadcasting report when they observe such “suspicious” behaviour. I really hate this kind of “anti-ganking” that some like Dracvlad do. It’s totally counterproductive even for anti-ganking itself and they are not even able to understand that. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/214 "2019-09-14T07:35:31Z")
> [@Knowledgeminer](#): > > sometimes Dracvlad knows what he’s talking about, sometimes he doesn’t Even a broken clock is right sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/215 "2019-09-14T08:03:58Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > I ran into knowledgeminer recently. He killed my thrasher and prevented the gank. This was because I was solo ganking a venture without warp-in and I had autocannons so when I didn’t get close I failed. But his dps was really low, so if I had warp in I would get the kill I don’t remember this encounter, but it looks like something didn’t work as expected. What you may expect to happen if you have lower than -5 sec status and try to gank a Venture I’m guarding is that I 1-shot you before you even get a lock on the Venture (unless I know you cannot 1-shot Ventures yourself and then I may fly something that would allow you to shoot once). It looks like some of my guns missed precisely because you didn’t land on top of your target, i.e. what you think made you fail is actually what allowed you to survive long enough to be able to shoot at all. > [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > Likewise, if I was ganking hulk or mack with 3 catalysts he would not be able to do anything. Don’t be so sure about this. If you’re overkill with 3 T2 fitted cats against the typically badly tanked exhumer, most likely yes, but things may not work as you expect otherwise. Also, I don’t always try to save the victim in cases like this. I may simply remain there cloaked watching for some reason. > [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > And, did he really accomplished anything in here as well? Yes, of course, kill you _before_ you would kill your target, which was the goal in that case. > [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > I let myself to get podded jumped into new ship and ganked different target And what did _you_ accomplish by doing that? It’s not like you stopped _other_ Ventures from continue mining elsewhere or even the same miner from getting another Venture and start mining again… Also, don’t assume you would be able to keep doing that indefinitely if you have lower than -5 sec status and I’m fully determined to hunt you, not just doing it in a casual way. > [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > Seriously, babysitting ventures… just as pathetic as ganking them As others pointed out, I was hunting you, not babysitting anything. I figured what you were after and used that to get you there. Had I figured you were after something else, I would have come for you at the location of that other target. Alternatively, I might figure you intend to jump a specific gate and try to get you there instead. > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > @Knowledgeminer doesn’t protect the miners and doesn’t care if they die. He just likes to hunt gankers. Killing your gank char is as satisfying to him as it is for a ganker to kill a miner. This is correct, but as expressed the first sentence could be misunderstood as meaning I like to simply whore on CONCORD kills at the belts. I don’t care that miners get ganked in general, but I do care if the particular miner I’m guarding dies if the goal was to kill the ganker there, or if some other miner dies because I didn’t correctly guess who was the target, because that’s precisely the challenge and the measure of how successful I was. Actually, it may sometimes happen that I make a mistake or get a bad shot, but the victim survives for some reason regardless, and I still consider it a failure on my part because I wasn’t really the reason the victim survived in that case. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/216 "2019-09-16T10:01:27Z")
> [@Knowledgeminer](#): > > This was already discussed in another thread where he brought up this nonsense too. He seems to believe outlaws in space need to be pre-aligned to not be caught by faction police or something, I never said that. You are making things up again. To clarify, when you jumped on me for this comment in the AG chat channel, I had not made it clear enough that they were close to the gate, when I made sure you understood that you were not able to adjust your thinking and were in a complete strop. It was at that moment that my doubts about you really came to the surface. Once you decide something you decide it is how it is and you will not let go of it. As scuh that actual event made me decide that not having any involvement with you was a wise course of action even if I could see that you were effective. > [@Knowledgeminer](#): > > and hence _assumed_ that gang was pre-aligned when you may bet what really happened is he simply saw the normal alignment process that precedes the warp after issuing the warp fleet command. They aligned together and they jumped together, of course that could have been the normal alignment due to a warp. But as I pointed out they jumped together with too short a time for the guy to have done the stacking clickfest. > [@Knowledgeminer](#): > > But of course he will keep saying otherwise and even use it as “proof” that the ganker had to be input broadcasting because how else could the whole fleet be aligning together if there is no align fleet command? I know how long Catalysts take to warp after alignement and they did not warp immediately as you were not there you are just talking out of your rear end as per normal. > [@Knowledgeminer](#): > > And don’t expect him to ever see the same again either, much less report it himself, now that this would require him to more carefully observe what really happens after having been told multiple times how all this stuff works. This is simply going to be yet another of those unverifiable stories he’s gonna be bringing up in each and every ganking thread from now on and use as an “example” to tell _others_ to file a bogus input broadcasting report when they observe such “suspicious” behaviour. If I see something suspicious I will report it. I have been watching two different gankers recently. And when I see them do something that cannot be explained without input broadcasting it will be reported directly to CCP. Nothing you can do about it loser. > [@Knowledgeminer](#): > > I really hate this kind of “anti-ganking” that some like Dracvlad do Cry more please. Again selling a narrative here. To be absolutely blunt in all the time that you were in the AG chat channel I was not active as an AG player, I reported intel and gave advice, but I did not partake in direct activities. So when you say AG like that I was not actually doing AG. And I will not feel bad at reporting people who are botting, if that upsets you then boo hoo to you. > [@Knowledgeminer](#): > > It’s totally counterproductive even for anti-ganking itself and they are not even able to understand that. Yeah yeah yeah, still being a pathetic loser who has successfully turned the AG channel into a no talk channel where most people have private channels without you in it. Way to go tiger. I see you are desperate to have forum wars with people so with this I am back to ignoring your sorry ass. ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/217 "2019-09-16T10:37:57Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I never said that. You are making things up again. Oh, c’mon, we all know who is that makes up stuff here all the time, appears to not even be aware of the things he says, and projects his own shortcomings on others, hoping most other participants aren’t gonna bother check the facts: > [@Observation on ganking & the rules](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observation-on-ganking-the-rules/181900/18): > > But what if they were all aligned to the gate as he was -10 and FacPol and he warped instantly > [@Dracvlad](#): > > And most important of all, **he was pre-aligned** too because of Fac Pol, there was no way he could have done it manually. See? I made that up, you did _not_ say that, not in this thread, not in the other one, it’s all my imagination… > [@Dracvlad](#): > > They aligned together and they jumped together Very, very suspicious, indeed… > [@Dracvlad](#): > > of course that could have been the normal alignment due to a warp Nah, I bet it wasn’t, had to be input broadcasting… There was faction police there, remember? > [@Dracvlad](#): > > I know how long Catalysts take to warp after alignement and they did not warp immediately Yeah, we all know how much you know too. Actually, this very sentence you just wrote there clearly shows it. It makes so much sense… > [@Dracvlad](#): > > as you were not there That I wasn’t there is the only thing you’ve said that’s correct and not a lie so far. See? That’s the difference, I _do_ know when I wasn’t somewhere or didn’t see something. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > you are just talking out of your rear end as per normal. _Me_… as per normal… > [@Dracvlad](#): > > If I see something suspicious I will report it. […] Nothing you can do about it loser. 🤣 🤣 🤣 > [@Dracvlad](#): > > still being a pathetic loser who has successfully turned the AG channel into a no talk channel where most people have private channels without you in it. Way to go tiger. ROFL. And all those channels didn’t exist before me? They were all created because of me? And they needed to create several of them, one wasn’t enough? Wouldn’t just banning me from AG channel have been easier and more convenient? You’re not making up anything here again, are you? 🤣 🤣 > [@Dracvlad](#): > > with this I am back to ignoring your sorry ass. Oh, c’mon. You know you should have never stopped ignoring me since I’m obviously able to keep track of the things you say much better than yourself and that’s a real problem for you… ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/218 "2019-09-16T10:39:53Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Yeah yeah yeah, still being a pathetic loser who has successfully turned the AG channel into a no talk channel where most people have private channels without you in it. Way to go tiger. It used to be a toxic pit full of clueless crying and blaming CODE. or CCP for their misery and incapability to do anything at all. It was the perpeteum mobile of salt mines, a self amplifying never ending stream of tears of impotence. No one talking is an incredible improvement to that. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > I have been watching two different gankers recently. And when I see them do something that cannot be explained without input broadcasting it will be reported directly to CCP. Wow, this sounds so desperate I can’t even mock it anymore. > [@Knowledgeminer](#): > > Oh, c’mon. You know you should have never stopped ignoring me since I’m obviously able to keep track of the things you say much better than yourself and that’s a real problem for you… Even if he “ignores” you, like he does me, we know he will read it anyway. He just can’t help himself. Hi Drac 👋 ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/219 "2019-09-16T13:02:55Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > > I have been watching > > Wow, this sounds so desperate I can’t even mock it anymore. Imagine being so salty you stalk people in game just to catch them doing “something” but not be able to explain “what” and then using that ignorance as a smoking gun to cry to CCP over… It’s sad…really really sad… ---
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/220 "2019-09-17T00:38:10Z")
He literally has nothing but the hope that freighter gankers are cheating and he can somehow catch them and get them banned A sad pathetic angry little kid Literally nobody uses input broadcasting to gank because of the giant spotlight CCP has on them and you simply don’t need it under 20-30 accounts if you have good mechanics (something agers lack) Dracvlad will never stop crying about ganking. Gets the 3 min bump change then promptly moves onto the next thing to cry about [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620.md?page=11)