# The fleet of gankers suspected of using input broadcasting

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [August 25, 2019, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620 "2019-08-25T12:26:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/109 "2019-09-04T20:16:16Z")

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> [@Reb\_Estemaire](#):
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> Please explain to this noob how ganking, 15 to 1 or even 40 to 1, is honorable PVP? This illustrates perfectly the toxic combination of ignorance, delusion, and misdirected rage that the sewer rats of this game dish out daily and why so many have left the game.

It’s not really X against 1 now is it? That “1” has a fleet of infallible, omnipotent space police on their side to even the scales.

I get that such a contest offends the e-Bushido code of some space samurai, but there is still honour in standing up for what you believe in and sacrificing your ships for your principles.

Besides, if you aren’t willing to PvP with the scales so tilted in your favour that is requires 15 or even 40 people on the other side to even have a chance of defeating you, why are you playing a PvP game?

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**Author:** ![Reb\_Estemaire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/reb_estemaire/32/217141_2.png) [@Reb\_Estemaire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Reb_Estemaire)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/110 "2019-09-04T20:25:01Z")

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Such convoluted logic to justify ganking I am speechless 😲 If 40 to 1 is honorable PvP in your mind and the ganking community than the numbers will continue to plummet.

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**Author:** ![Reb\_Estemaire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/reb_estemaire/32/217141_2.png) [@Reb\_Estemaire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Reb_Estemaire)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/111 "2019-09-04T20:27:18Z")

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People are giving up in DROVES on this game and this is the number 1 reason this toxic community that thinks this way. Enjoy your ride to the bottom, what are you people going to do when there is no one left to gank but yourselves?

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/112 "2019-09-04T20:28:57Z")

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> [@Reb\_Estemaire](#):
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> Such convoluted logic to justify ganking I am speechless 😲 If 40 to 1 is honorable PvP in your mind and the ganking community than the numbers will continue to plummet.

If ganking was made easier more people would have access to honorable elite PvP and the player numbers would skyrocket. I mean what’s more appealing, boring mining, AFK hauling or honorable elite Highsec PvP with explosions and a lot of player interaction?

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**Author:** ![Reb\_Estemaire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/reb_estemaire/32/217141_2.png) [@Reb\_Estemaire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Reb_Estemaire)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/113 "2019-09-04T20:32:06Z")

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You sir are in the minority. The majority have spoken by leaving and speaking with their wallets.

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/114 "2019-09-04T20:32:17Z")

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> [@TheInternet\_TweepsOnline\_TheInternet](#):
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> Anti-ganking? Automated Ganking? Automated _Griefing_ ?!?
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> Has this been investigated?

Now that you say it, ag players always reminded me a bit of my Roomba who always swallows some cable or gets himself stuck in some stupid fashion, **and this thing is a bot**. Very VERY suspicious.

I hope CCP investigates.

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/115 "2019-09-04T20:35:17Z")

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> [@Reb\_Estemaire](#):
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> You sir are in the minority. The majority have spoken by leaving and speaking with their wallets.

CCP looked into this and found that players don’t leave because of ship loss (they send you a survey if you quit, and given how vocal the carebear community is they would 100% tell them). So a better theory is that everyone just got bored because of the constant nerfs to interesting content like ganking, wars and other shenanigans that made the game actually fun.

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**Author:** ![Reb\_Estemaire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/reb_estemaire/32/217141_2.png) [@Reb\_Estemaire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Reb_Estemaire)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/116 "2019-09-04T20:39:13Z")

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You belive anything the devs have to say about the state of this game? 🤣 They are to busy partying around the world to give a rats behind on the state of the game. Just look at the videos they post on YouTube, nothing about fixing what is broken only about them living it up on our dime 🤣🤣🤣

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**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/117 "2019-09-04T20:39:44Z")

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> [@Reb\_Estemaire](#):
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> Such convoluted logic to justify ganking I am speechless 😲 If 40 to 1 is honorable PvP in your mind and the ganking community than the numbers will continue to plummet.

I really don’t follow. Ganking hasn’t changed. If anything it has been made harder and happens less. Eve grew like gangbusters back in the day when ganking and highsec crime were in the game and it didn’t require 40 people to knock over a transport in highsec. I don’t see why you attribute a decrease in players to something that has been there all along.

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/118 "2019-09-04T20:44:13Z")

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> [@Reb\_Estemaire](#):
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> You belive anything the devs have to say about the state of this game?

Why should I disregard the opinion of the people who have the data and whose monetary interest is in retaining more players so they actually look into those things, and instead believe some random carebear who only goes by his gut feelings that are obviously heavily influenced by what would favor him the most in this game?

But ramble on, no one takes you seriously and you are a good demonstration about how carebears act out of pure self interest and present zero facts.

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**Author:** ![Reb\_Estemaire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/reb_estemaire/32/217141_2.png) [@Reb\_Estemaire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Reb_Estemaire)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/119 "2019-09-04T20:46:12Z")

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I go by what people tell me. Among my real-life friends who used to play this was the number 1 reason they left the game FOREVER, was because of the over the top toxic attitude and language of these legends in their own minds elitist SEWER RATS!!!

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/120 "2019-09-04T20:58:52Z")

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> [@Reb\_Estemaire](#):
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> I go by what people tell me.

That’s what is called anecdotal evidence, and even if your story is true (because we all know you just made that up) it is worth **nothing**. CCP have the actual data and not just anecdotes

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**Author:** ![Reb\_Estemaire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/reb_estemaire/32/217141_2.png) [@Reb\_Estemaire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Reb_Estemaire)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/121 "2019-09-04T21:17:05Z")

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Again your opinion is the only one that matters, everyone else makes it up or are care bears or blah blah blah. And the reason this is always the way is that you are among the legends in their own minds elitist SEWER RATS!!!

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/122 "2019-09-04T21:22:41Z")

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> [@TheInternet\_TweepsOnline\_TheInternet](#):
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> It went something like this: **“Tweeps and Kalorned were in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies and the baby looked at me!”**

I’m pretty sure that I’m the babymaker. Typical men, stealing all the glory, and forgetting about the girl doing all the work.

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**Author:** ![TheInternet\_TweepsOnline\_TheInternet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theinternet_tweepsonline_theinternet/32/414103_2.png) [@TheInternet\_TweepsOnline\_TheInternet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TheInternet_TweepsOnline_TheInternet)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/123 "2019-09-04T22:44:00Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> I’m the babymaker

Is that an offer? Just imagine how beautiful our babies would be.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/124 "2019-09-04T22:44:42Z")

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> [@TheInternet\_TweepsOnline\_TheInternet](#):
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> Is that an offer?

Is that a counter offer?

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**Author:** ![TheInternet\_TweepsOnline\_TheInternet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theinternet_tweepsonline_theinternet/32/414103_2.png) [@TheInternet\_TweepsOnline\_TheInternet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TheInternet_TweepsOnline_TheInternet)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/125 "2019-09-04T22:45:52Z")

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My people will be in touch with your people to hammer out the details.

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**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 2:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/126 "2019-09-05T02:13:31Z")

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Dracvlad is a coward who doesn’t even believe the ■■■■ he spews.

I challenged him to bump my freighter for 30 mins since he reckons its so easy with the wager a paltry 50bil and he wouldn’t even take me up on the offer

That’s the best chance for a win a loser like him could ever hope for and he didn’t even take it

> [@Reb\_Estemaire](#):
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> If 40 to 1 is honorable PvP

1 player vs 1 player

Sounds pretty honorable to me

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**Author:** ![Commander\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/commander_kane/32/199755_2.png) [@Commander\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Commander_Kane)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 5:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/127 "2019-09-05T05:38:23Z")

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Funny… you sound like an elitist sewer rat. And I don’t even gank.

It is like a neverending circle.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-fleet-of-gankers-suspected-of-using-input-broadcasting/185620/128 "2019-09-05T05:56:48Z")

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I feel bad for Dracvlad getting shamed in every post and every thread.

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