# The Future of Eve, and why hasn't there been anything new in 10 years? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 7, 2023, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-future-of-eve-and-why-hasnt-there-been-anything-new-in-10-years/408476 "2023-06-07T18:41:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-future-of-eve-and-why-hasnt-there-been-anything-new-in-10-years/408476/164 "2023-06-17T21:29:59Z")
> [@C-Kat](#): > > You thinking that this game is only about PVP? Yes, it ultimately is. Eve is a huge pyramidal structure, the very apex of which is combat pew pew. All other activities and mechanics exist _solely_ to serve that end. Mining does not exist just for the sake of mining…it exists to provide the raw materials for combat. The same applies to industry, which is meaningless outside of the context of combat. The real issue is that many people…miners, industrialists, etc…have completely forgotten all that. You get miners who treat Eve as if it were _solely_ a mining game…and who regard gankers and other PvP-ers as ‘interfering’ with their little stand alone hobby. Never mind the sheer irony that these miners are mining the very ore that makes the Catalysts that zap them. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-future-of-eve-and-why-hasnt-there-been-anything-new-in-10-years/408476/165 "2023-06-17T21:32:06Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Eve is a huge pyramidal structure, the very apex of which is combat pew pew. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Whew… thanks for that. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-future-of-eve-and-why-hasnt-there-been-anything-new-in-10-years/408476/183 "2023-06-18T14:09:08Z")
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**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-future-of-eve-and-why-hasnt-there-been-anything-new-in-10-years/408476/184 "2023-06-18T14:15:16Z")
Cleaned up some unconstructive/off topic. ### **1.** **Specifically restricted conduct.** The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to courteous when disagreeing with others. In order to maintain an environment where everyone is welcome and discussion flows freely, certain types of conduct are prohibited on the EVE Online forums. These are: - Trolling - Flaming - Ranting - **Personal Attacks** - Harassment - Doxxing - Racism & Discrimination - Hate Speech - Sexism - Spamming - Bumping - **Off-Topic Posting** - Pyramid Quoting - Rumor Mongering - New Player Bashing - Impersonation - Advertising ### **3. Post constructively.** Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online if it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-future-of-eve-and-why-hasnt-there-been-anything-new-in-10-years/408476/185 "2023-06-18T14:15:20Z")
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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-future-of-eve-and-why-hasnt-there-been-anything-new-in-10-years/408476/186 "2023-06-18T14:24:42Z")
> [@Fifie\_Brindacier](#): > > to scrounge enough to have a decently-fitted Destroyer/Cruiser to fleet with there isn’t much time left for socializing. At least that’s my experience so far. That’s a good point and kind of touches on one of the harder things for newbies to get integrated with a fleet: handing out a ship to a newbie is simply much harder. Before some of the fitting and prerequisite skills come in for a newbie, it’s a case by case basis for a Corp to integrate each individual newbie to a fleet. Each customization then needs to have the appropriate meta modules on hand which complicates logistics for the corp. Once they are decently skilled enough, then it’s easy for a corp to hand out a copy/pasted doctrine ship. And easy to buy doctrines in bulk. ---
**Author:** ![Fifie\_Brindacier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fifie_brindacier/32/373279_2.png) [@Fifie\_Brindacier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fifie_Brindacier)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-future-of-eve-and-why-hasnt-there-been-anything-new-in-10-years/408476/187 "2023-06-18T14:57:18Z")
> [@Io\_Koval](#): > > Before some of the fitting and prerequisite skills come in for a newbie, it’s a case by case basis for a Corp to integrate each individual newbie to a fleet It’s definitely a time/isk investment everytime a newbro is added to a corporation I can imagine. Not counting the risks involved. It’s part of the reason why I’m not yet seeking to join one. I think it’s better to make friends first and do a few activities together before thinking of joining corp. It may also be beneficial to work together and not be in the same corporation. I mentioned fleets as I’m under the impression we can fleet even if we’re not in the same corporation and you added to reasons and the difficulties that stand between newbros and corporations. I’m the type of person who doesn’t like to be handed to ( except intel/info ) I prefer to get everything out of my own efforts and smarts. When I join a corporation I want to be useful and ready. I can learn and buy ships to train in while I’m in NPC corp. My Talos is named Sacrifice. That’s exactly what I intend for it. I consider all my vessels _training_ ships until I have a kill 😆 > [@Io\_Koval](#): > > Each customization then needs to have the appropriate meta modules on hand which complicates logistics for the corp It must be a pain for a corporation to integrate a new player in a way that’s beneficial for both. I’m thinking small to medium sized corp. I guess the big alliances may have an easier time recruiting and training. ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-future-of-eve-and-why-hasnt-there-been-anything-new-in-10-years/408476/193 "2023-06-21T16:20:00Z")
> [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](#): > > But when you don’t really care if EVE Online was shut down the next day it really leaves a lot of room to enjoy the game. The only caveat to this is that when you are that emotionally detached from the game, you also enjoy it less - as enjoyment is an emotion… –Gadget will take the lows that come with the highs ---
**Author:** ![Leia\_Amidala\_Skytrooper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leia_amidala_skytrooper/32/376281_2.png) [@Leia\_Amidala\_Skytrooper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leia_Amidala_Skytrooper)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-future-of-eve-and-why-hasnt-there-been-anything-new-in-10-years/408476/197 "2023-06-23T20:38:23Z")
Greetings Orion Rex. Thank you very much for your Great posting. You have all my attention, therefore of all my Family, Hand beyond. Best regards. Leia Amidala Skytrooper. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2023, 11:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-future-of-eve-and-why-hasnt-there-been-anything-new-in-10-years/408476/198 "2023-06-24T23:53:33Z")
Cleared more off topic… ### **1.** **Specifically restricted conduct.** The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to courteous when disagreeing with others. In order to maintain an environment where everyone is welcome and discussion flows freely, certain types of conduct are prohibited on the EVE Online forums. These are: - **Personal Attacks** - **Off-Topic Posting** ### **3. Post constructively.** Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online if it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2023, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-future-of-eve-and-why-hasnt-there-been-anything-new-in-10-years/408476/199 "2023-06-25T02:58:48Z")
> [@ISD\_Drew](#): > > 1. Post constructively. With all due respect. Thats kinda hard to pull off with less than 18k on a Sat nite. ---
**Author:** ![Distaine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/distaine/32/502653_2.png) [@Distaine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Distaine)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2023, 4:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-future-of-eve-and-why-hasnt-there-been-anything-new-in-10-years/408476/200 "2023-06-25T04:26:43Z")
Hey the mods are doing well imo. we used to just get shut down or banned. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-future-of-eve-and-why-hasnt-there-been-anything-new-in-10-years/408476/201 "2023-06-26T01:03:45Z")
> [@Orion\_Rex](#): > > Where is Dust? Thats died about 3 times over at this point, it doesn’t really work > [@Orion\_Rex](#): > > Where is the colony sim? Why would there be a colony sim? > [@Orion\_Rex](#): > > Where is the player actually doing stuff in the station that isn’t clicking a button and waiting. That died because it actually turned out, most people didn’t care, and ultimately it wouldn’t have actually improved the game given the resources it would take > [@Orion\_Rex](#): > > Well, one big thing in this newer generation of games that I am seeing that players are screaming for is a separation of PvP and PvE. Yup, the OG’s got older and actually started families and ended up having to act like adults, the new youngens that are getting in to gaming are much more casual oriented, which is why the game has shifted to follow the market trends > [@Orion\_Rex](#): > > My biggest issue with pvp, is when I can’t separate it and have zero choice in WHEN that pvp happens. Then you’re not going to enjoy it here, surprise PvP will always be part of the game > [@Orion\_Rex](#): > > would bring back a missing player base: the casuals. NGL, we don’t actually want them back, the game becoming WoW in space isn’t what people actually signed up for > [@Orion\_Rex](#): > > I think everything from a wormholes, to stations should be ownable on the individual player level, without needing a holding corp You can’t really hold a wormhole solo, i would love to see you try but people WILL evict you, owning a WH requires a large force Stations are pretty much always going to be a corp thing, because again you generally are going to need a large force in order to defend it, personal structures would mean people needing to be able to declare war on just you in order to remove it, and you really don’t want that lol > [@Orion\_Rex](#): > > If one of your ideas involves bring back Dust Pretty sure that ship has sailed, at this point the last i heard the shooter was basically a co-op PvE shooter, it wouldn’t have had any real interactions with EVE anymore, so i wouldn’t worry about dust being an issue lol > [@Orion\_Rex](#): > > I want a carrier in High-Security. Its called a dominix, you’re not going to get actual fighters in high sec > [@Orion\_Rex](#): > > Faster ways for players who don’t like using microphones to access the chat channels would be fantastic. Using a keyboard isn’t fast enough for you? Although any serious group activity will require voice comms ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2024, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-future-of-eve-and-why-hasnt-there-been-anything-new-in-10-years/408476/202 "2024-02-11T03:08:33Z")
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