# The gate to Sivala

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [February 27, 2022, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466 "2022-02-27T08:18:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 17

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2022, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/322 "2022-03-06T05:51:22Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> Aiko even told me herself and offered me a place at her side but I can’t

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/7/b/07b38fc73b492a407e01b86fd9ca74b0e482760d.gif)

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**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2022, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/323 "2022-03-06T06:05:20Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> what you’re doing.

What I’m doing is discussing my Eve. Amazingly…on a forum for discussing Eve. It would be great to be able to do so without a bunch of paranoid toxic psychopaths interjecting every 5 seconds.

Seriously…some of you have SO lost the plot you simply have zero idea how toxic you come across as.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2022, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/324 "2022-03-06T06:11:43Z")

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> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#):
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> you simply have zero idea how toxic you come across as.

[https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/65071548.jpg](https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/65071548.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2022, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/325 "2022-03-06T06:24:26Z")

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> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#):
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> Seriously…some of you have SO lost the plot you simply have zero idea how toxic you come across as.

As toxic as someone talking smack behind their alt and stringing their corp mates out to die you mean 😃

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**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2022, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/326 "2022-03-06T06:38:51Z")

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Simple can’t beat the sheer toxicity of someone who has never ever met me in Eve yet seems to think they know exactly what I have done or invents sheer baloney about events where they were never there. You are totally out of order.

_Seek medical help_.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2022, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/327 "2022-03-06T07:00:31Z")

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> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#):
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> paranoid toxic psychopaths

Ahahahahaha.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2022, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/328 "2022-03-06T07:01:50Z")

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> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#):
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> What I’m doing is discussing my Eve. Amazingly…on a forum for discussing Eve.

You’re not just discussing EVE; you’re making unsubstantiated claims. This also makes you a troll. On top of that, you make unsubstantiated claims about _other people_ (as you often do about me, for example, by saying that I don’t play the game because you’ve never seen me).

If you want other people to consider what you say as just “discussing your EVE” then you have to accept that what other people say is also “discussing their EVE,” but you _don’t,_ and that makes you a hypocrite.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2022, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/329 "2022-03-06T07:05:22Z")

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You also have to use a main to discuss EvE.

Nobody will ever respect your Cilly trash alt.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2022, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/330 "2022-03-06T07:08:12Z")

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I don’t think “respect” is a consideration for the “Dracvlad crew.”

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2022, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/331 "2022-03-06T07:23:10Z")

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They’ll never admit it, but they obviously crave respect (and attention).

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2022, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/332 "2022-03-06T07:35:40Z")

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Then why would they act in a way that would confer them the least possible amount of it? Hidden mains, threatening other players that they’ll lose ships to them on purpose, and straight up refusing to even play the game aren’t exactly badges of honor.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2022, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/333 "2022-03-06T08:14:36Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> I don’t think “respect” is a consideration for the “Dracvlad crew.”

Rent free in your head as always…

If only it was about respect, but all I can see coming at me is real hatred and a need to drive me from the forums. The Eve forums have almost always been an immensely hostile place, but it has got worse and worse over the years.

> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> Then why would they act in a way that would confer them the least possible amount of it? Hidden mains, threatening other players that they’ll lose ships to them on purpose, and straight up refusing to even play the game aren’t exactly badges of honor.

What a whine that is, I treat your pathetic challenge with the contempt it deserves, because you did that challenge like that because you cannot put up and keep a war HQ, and you hide that behind a challenge where I am supposed to put up a war HQ against a person who defines themself first and foremost as a war deccer.

I repeat what I said before, your weakness in Eve is evident, you cannot put up and keep a war HQ. You seem to think that I am here just to be your content, and due to some strange forum bushido I should just make it easy for you, talk about entitled bullshite. If you want to do something about hurt feelings on the forums, get better at Eve, simple as that. My comment about taking a joke ship to Amarr is taking the P out of your weakness, because a stupid challenge like that says more about you then I could ever say on the forums, funny isn’t it.

And on another point, Dracvlad is my main, I post with my main, however I have other characters that have high levels of SP and I use them for specific purposes, does that get you too?

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2022, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/334 "2022-03-06T09:15:00Z")

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> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#):
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> Simple can’t beat the sheer toxicity of someone who has never ever met me in Eve yet seems to think they know exactly what I have done or invents sheer baloney about events where they were never there. You are totally out of order.
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> _Seek medical help_.

Not really? You’ve admitted you’re an alt. You’re talking smack with that alt and refusing to say who your main is. Logically, there is only one reason why 😃

LOL seek medical help for what exactly? Everything I’ve said is facts.

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Rent free in your head as always…

So cringe LOL.

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> ll I can see coming at me is real hatred and a need to drive me from the forums.

By your own hand the consequences are 😃

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> And on another point, Dracvlad is my main, I post with my main, however I have other characters that have high levels of SP and I use them for specific purposes, does that get you too?

LOL sure he is.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2022, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/335 "2022-03-06T09:16:09Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> If only it was about respect, but all I can see coming at me is real hatred and a need to drive me from the forums. The Eve forums have almost always been an immensely hostile place, but it has got worse and worse over the years.

No, that’s just your massive persecution complex at work.

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> What a whine that is, I treat your pathetic challenge with the contempt it deserves, because you did that challenge like that because you cannot put up and keep a war HQ

And after I told you “alright, sure, I’ll put up a war HQ,” you started talking about how you’d be losing your ships to me “on purpose” (to try to preempt the losses you realized you would take if I were to do that), and then just straight-up said you wouldn’t even play.

I might be weak, Dracvlad, but at least I’m not a _coward,_ and that’s what actually matters.

You seriously give me "use your own family members as a distraction to escape during a zombie apocalypse\* vibes.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2022, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/336 "2022-03-06T09:20:53Z")

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But you admitted that your objective was to try to make me not want to post on the forum. It is there in your own posts.

> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> And after I told you “alright, sure, I’ll put up a war HQ,” you started talking about how you’d be losing your ships to me “on purpose” (to try to preempt the losses you realized you would take if I were to do that), and then just straight-up said you wouldn’t even play.
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> I might be weak, Dracvlad, but at least I’m not a _coward,_ and that’s what actually matters.
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> You seriously give me "use your own family members as a distraction to escape during a zombie apocalypse\* vibes.

A coward, lol, I have no issues with losing ships at all, I don’t hug a trade hub for example… By doing that it was taking the P out of your pathetic challenge which means nothing to me, and seems to mean a great deal to you. That is your issue, and yes you are weak.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2022, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/337 "2022-03-06T09:26:16Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> But you admitted that your objective was to try to make me not want to post on the forum.

My only objective is to get you to stop poisoning the community with your defeatist attitude. If accomplishing that means that you’d stop posting, then I guess that’s just the way the cookie crumbles.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2022, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/338 "2022-03-06T09:34:10Z")

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You are the defeatist one who is unable to put up a War HQ because you choose to be a solo player.

To be so desperate about another forum poster to try such a dumb challenge says a lot about you.

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**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2022, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/339 "2022-03-06T10:49:02Z")

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And you constantly referring to the challenge and your excuses ……….

Say far more about you.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2022, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/340 "2022-03-06T10:56:19Z")

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Did I hear a random fart in the wind?

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2022, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/341 "2022-03-06T11:01:51Z")

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> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#):
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> _Seek medical help_.

I would if I were you before you burst a blood vessel.  
You do seem to be prone to massive whinebaby temper tantrums

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