# The gate to Sivala

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [February 27, 2022, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466 "2022-02-27T08:18:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 2

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**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/22 "2022-02-28T16:44:11Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> Is it really necessary to start a new thread to describe each and every single one of your fleets? I mean, can you honestly imagine how spammy it would be if I literally made a new thread for each fleet?

But it is precisely because AG actions are much rarer…that they deserve a mention. We already know that you are active practically 24/7…we have only to look at ‘ships destroyed in past hour’ in highsec and we think ’ there goes Aiko again’.

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**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/23 "2022-02-28T16:59:27Z")

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> [@Faylee\_Freir](#):
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> In the past I’ve actually submitted tickets to GMs when certain individuals are obviously making a habit out of being disruptive or intentionally derailing.

A good deal of the ‘problem’ here is lack of any differentiation of being in character or out of character. The game itself is ‘disruptive and derailing’…that is its very nature…so ‘in character’ posts are inevitably going to be of such nature. And OOC discussions of issues from a purely ‘technical’ aspect inevitably get driven into that in-character terrain. I agree with whoever it was who said in another post that this forum needs more humour…which can make even the most intractable issues easier to discuss.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/24 "2022-02-28T19:49:16Z")

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> [@Wah\_Huren](#):
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> Of course we’re not… its a game! 😉

Mmhmm. So you admit then you don’t RP then correct?

> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> This is an on going AG operation that we want to make the people of new Eden aware of, which is what the forums are for, if you don’t want to read about your coming down fall , please don’t open this and don’t comment.
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> Over the coming weeks we will be taking more types of actions against you and try to gather fresh forces to join our forever war.
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> A date will be set shortly for a longer period of time that Uedama will be kept open and our increase in forces will gather. Of course all are welcome including you. Unless you are killing new players in ventures and can’t make it .
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> Long live the resistance
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> Join us and watch Uedama burn with the hulks of dead catalyst and failed ganks

You realize your bro right above you just confirmed you don’t RP right?

And I have another corp member of yours admitting to it as well.

Look, you can play however you want. But if you’re gonna RP, then RP. If you’re not, then don’t.

If you’re gonna RP, then actually stay consistent to the scene. If not, why bother?

> [@Faylee\_Freir](#):
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> Of course you’re going to get trolled and derailed but that is what ISD and forum moderators are for. Don’t feed the trolls and keep the thread from being derailed and held hostage. Ping moderators and request the thread be cleaned up.

I think what’s hard is they don’t stay consistent to their own RP. Its what slaughters their credibility.

> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> the only crime worth fighting

You literally have criminals in your corp 😃

> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#):
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> A good deal of the ‘problem’ here is lack of any differentiation of being in character or out of character. The game itself is ‘disruptive and derailing’…that is its very nature…so ‘in character’ posts are inevitably going to be of such nature. And OOC discussions of issues from a purely ‘technical’ aspect inevitably get driven into that in-character terrain. I agree with whoever it was who said in another post that this forum needs more humour…which can make even the most intractable issues easier to discuss.

So its our fault NEPF can’t stay consistent to their own RP doctrine?

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/25 "2022-02-28T20:07:19Z")

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What on earth are you talking about

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/26 "2022-02-28T20:08:15Z")

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This right here says it all 😃

If you don’t even know what your own doctrine is, how can you expect the rest of us to take you seriously?

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**Author:** ![Labadina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/labadina/32/469476_2.png) [@Labadina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Labadina)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/27 "2022-02-28T23:00:49Z")

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Dear Aiko, stay consistant with your chars, nr 1, now that you are talking about consistancy, 2 noone ever did confirm in the corp that we dont roleplay, you just got owned and ignored afterwards due to the uninteresting and transparent content of you character, and not nesseserely refering to your ingame character at this point, that was a good laugh though so thx for the mails, was quite entertaining for the group.

If I were you the only consistancy I would worry about is the one that is challenging you to come and fight when someone actually dares you as the NEPF is clearly doing, so talk less, act more, take your medicines and come gank when the gates are open.

PS. We do RP as Police Officers but noone ever said we were saints. But ofc I’m sure in your endless knowledge and wisdom you dont imagine that in a computer game “as in RL” a police officer could have ever comited a crime right?.. well forget the ?, that might make you & the people who chooses to be around you think for a moment and that can inevitably only give you headaches.

So dont think too much about it, relax and above all, Calm down miners… of PVP.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/28 "2022-02-28T23:06:13Z")

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1. You know I’m not Aiko right?
2. My dude, please spell check

> [@Labadina](#):
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> We do RP as Police Officers but noone ever said we were saints. But ofc I’m sure in your endless knowledge and wisdom you dont imagine that in a computer game “as in RL” a police officer could have ever comited a crime right?

Right, but if they do they get arrested and can’t be cops anymore 😃 You aren’t consistent with your RP doctrine, so don’t expect peeps to take you seriously.

You guys taking fitting advice from Drac, I don’t think you understand no one is afraid of you 😃

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**Author:** ![Labadina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/labadina/32/469476_2.png) [@Labadina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Labadina)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/29 "2022-02-28T23:10:39Z")

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You clearly dont know much about the world do you?.. Anyway… Your opinion about our RP is totally irrelevant so dont try to force it anymore, its start to sound sad, it is only good if you dont take us seriously, will be “like” if the opinion of a chimpanze counted in the university…

Spell check? oh wait… yeah the spelling thing… who have I ever seen try to use that in any other contexts with any other people?

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/30 "2022-02-28T23:17:12Z")

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Mm I know plenty bruv 😃

And uh bro? Look at your post. Its shameful LOL.

I’m not forcing anything. You aren’t consistent with RP doctrine. The fact you don’t know what I’m talking about it says it all.

If you guys don’t wanna RP, then don’t. But if you are stay consistent, which you aren’t doing.

Also please try to type and frame your post in a coherent manner bruv.

I’m guessing this is Fire Venom huh?

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**Author:** ![Labadina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/labadina/32/469476_2.png) [@Labadina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Labadina)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/31 "2022-02-28T23:19:31Z")

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And there u go again… U really dont see it do you? 🤣

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**Author:** ![Fire\_Venom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fire_venom/32/469506_2.png) [@Fire\_Venom](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fire_Venom)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/32 "2022-02-28T23:21:21Z")

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Someone called? 🕶

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/33 "2022-02-28T23:21:29Z")

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> [@Labadina](#):
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> in a computer game “as in RL” a police officer could have ever comited a crime right?.. well forget the ?,

?

Is Fire Venom drunk again?

I can’t figure out if he is trying to tell us that he’s been to prison in real-life, or if he’s just admitting what we already know – antigankers are just failed griefer wannabes, who are salty at gankers for being better at the game.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/34 "2022-02-28T23:21:40Z")

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See what exactly?

Ya’ll are the ones not keeping consistent.

That’s on you bruv.

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**Author:** ![Fire\_Venom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fire_venom/32/469506_2.png) [@Fire\_Venom](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fire_Venom)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/35 "2022-02-28T23:22:38Z")

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hey,hey… I don’t even drink…

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**Author:** ![Fire\_Venom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fire_venom/32/469506_2.png) [@Fire\_Venom](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fire_Venom)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/36 "2022-02-28T23:23:44Z")

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i’ll give you all a 76 TOPS!

Enjoy & 🥰

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/37 "2022-02-28T23:24:42Z")

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Wut in the quafe are you talking about?

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**Author:** ![Labadina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/labadina/32/469476_2.png) [@Labadina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Labadina)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/38 "2022-02-28T23:24:54Z")

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Sad, very, very sad 😂

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**Author:** ![Fire\_Venom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fire_venom/32/469506_2.png) [@Fire\_Venom](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fire_Venom)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/39 "2022-02-28T23:27:26Z")

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I’ll give you a hint, anyone above that knows what I’m talking about 😁

Nite all, to late for unchallenging games 😉

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**Author:** ![Mandalf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mandalf/32/278086_2.png) [@Mandalf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mandalf)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/40 "2022-02-28T23:33:00Z")

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Oh no someone in our corp mentioned Eve was a game, we must never RP. And our RP must not be up to someone else’s standards, so why bother doing it?

In fact Gix doesn’t like our approach to Eve, so we should probably listen to someone else about how to play this game, we wouldn’t want to be playing it badwrong would we?

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/41 "2022-02-28T23:37:09Z")

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> [@Mandalf](#):
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> Gix doesn’t like our approach to Eve

Gix is just a concerned citizen. We all thought that the New Eden Pleb Force was dedicated to helping new players and defending the innocent, but it’s becoming increasingly clear that NEPF is a group of failed griefers and wannabe bulies. They aren’t police at all, just common criminals and back alley thugs!

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