# The gate to Sivala **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [February 27, 2022, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466 "2022-02-27T08:18:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2022, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/422 "2022-03-07T22:56:37Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Can’t believe you said that about someone else, that really is the pot calling the kettle black. I get that as a line member you’re easily confused. Aiko creates content regularly for EVE players. Ya’ll and Cilla merely piggy back on it mostly. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2022, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/423 "2022-03-07T23:10:56Z")
And who or what’s a Ya’ll, But yes content is important and more importantly the right content, the wrong can damage many thing’s ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2022, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/424 "2022-03-07T23:28:10Z")
Can you tell us what is the right content, and what is the wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Wah\_Huren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wah_huren/32/394699_2.png) [@Wah\_Huren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wah_Huren)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2022, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/425 "2022-03-07T23:57:08Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > who or what’s a Ya’ll I think Yall may well be a colonial utteration that approximates the effect of " You Chaps" I’ll need to refer to my phrase book ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/426 "2022-03-08T00:43:15Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > And who or what’s a Ya’ll Now now of this pretending to be blonde nonsense. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/a/9/fa958cc91d1cc5013543c00e8fd8a815de1c64d4.png) Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn’t mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/427 "2022-03-08T01:35:14Z")
Aiko’s content is TOS supported gameplay. What is it damaging exactly? ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/428 "2022-03-08T02:06:01Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > But yes content is important and more importantly the right content, the wrong can damage many thing’s But some seem to think they have some sort of monopoly on ‘creating content’. As far as I’m concerned, every single thing that happens in the game, including logging in and appearing on someone else’s Local, is content. Some content is more interesting than others, and some generates ( or destroys ) more ISK than others, but there really is no such thing as ’ I’m creating content and you’re not’. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 2:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/429 "2022-03-08T02:13:29Z")
That’s right. Even if all you do is AFK, you are creating content. You are just as important and relevant as everyone else, and you deserve a participation trophy. ❄ 🏆 ❄ ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 2:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/430 "2022-03-08T02:25:20Z")
An you don’t consider multiboxing to be AFK ? In the literal technical sense a person may be ‘at their keyboard’, but if they are not always looking at a particular screen then they are just as much ‘AFK’ as anyone watching Home & Away with Eve minimised. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/431 "2022-03-08T02:30:10Z")
Sorry Cilly, I don’t find you relevant enough to respond. Like most EvE players, I have no interest in a debate with your troll alt. Here is a dictionary word for you: > **[Definition of PEDANT](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pedant)** > > one who is unimaginative or who unduly emphasizes minutiae in the presentation or use of knowledge; one who makes a show of knowledge; a formalist or precisionist in teaching… See the full definition > **[Pedant - Definition, Meaning & Synonyms](https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/pedant)** > > A pedant is an annoying person who is focused on minor details and book knowledge rather than ordinary common sense. In war, it can be dangerous to have a pedant as commander — he'll insist on textbook maneuvers instead of adapting to circumstances... > **[pedant](https://www.thefreedictionary.com/pedant)** > > Definition, Synonyms, Translations of pedant by The Free Dictionary ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 2:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/432 "2022-03-08T02:57:03Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > An you don’t consider multiboxing to be AFK ? In the literal technical sense a person may be ‘at their keyboard’, but if they are not always looking at a particular screen then they are just as much ‘AFK’ as anyone watching Home & Away with Eve minimised. Maintaining control of multiple accounts while tabbing between them to issue commands is not the same thing as going away for 20 minutes to walk the dog while your barge’s cargo hold fills up. I used to fight using a battleship/Falcon combo, or have a combat ship with a Tech III booster/prober as support. According to your definition, I would’ve been fighting “AFK” just because only one window on my PC can be active at a time. How does that even work? But I guess if you want to say that I was getting kills while AFK, I’ll take it, since it would be an even bigger slap in the face for the players I killed. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/433 "2022-03-08T02:58:53Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I don’t find you relevant enough to respond Oooh…I _must_ have asked an awkward question. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 2:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/434 "2022-03-08T02:59:31Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > I _must_ have asked an awkward question. Calm down miner’s alt. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 3:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/435 "2022-03-08T03:00:53Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Calm down miner’s alt. Oh well…at least now I’m in Amarr the stench of Safety is a bit further away. Hey, I even spotted Destiny. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 3:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/436 "2022-03-08T03:06:51Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Maintaining control of multiple accounts while tabbing between them to issue commands is not the same thing as going away for 20 minutes to walk the dog while your barge’s cargo hold fills up. Not really…you’re just juggling semantics. The issue is whether a person is paying specific attention to what is on a _specific screen_. Whether they are walking the dog or having a holiday in Barbados is irrelevant. Going without looking at a specific screen for one reason…is as good or bad as going without looking at that specific screen for any other reason. The entire basis of the ‘AFK’ claim is that of not paying attention. There is zero difference between having one screen open and not paying attention to it…and having 6 screens open and not paying attention to 5 of them. In fact the latter is probably worse. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/437 "2022-03-08T03:08:39Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > There is zero difference between How would you know? You don’t even play EvE. Theorycraft ranting in the forums does not count. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/438 "2022-03-08T03:08:57Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Going without looking at a specific screen for one reason…is as good or bad as going without looking at that specific screen for any other reason. Your argument ignores the concept of time, and treats being away for 3 seconds the same as being away for half an hour. Anyway, like I said, I’m perfectly fine with people knowing that I don’t even need to be playing the game while my targets are dying. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 3:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/439 "2022-03-08T03:10:13Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > I’m perfectly fine with lol yah im so good I kill people when I’m AFK - and they aren’t! 😼 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 3:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/440 "2022-03-08T03:11:05Z")
Maybe that’s why Dracvlad was afraid of the war? ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 3:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/441 "2022-03-08T03:11:32Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > How would you know? Lol…because it does not take an Einstein to work out that if a person is looking at screen A then they can’t be looking at screen B. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466.md?page=21) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466.md?page=23)