# The gate to Sivala **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [February 27, 2022, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466 "2022-02-27T08:18:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 3:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/442 "2022-03-08T03:11:42Z")
Calm down pedant. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 3:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/443 "2022-03-08T03:11:55Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Lol…because it does not take an Einstein to work out that if a person is looking at screen A then they can’t be looking at screen B. ??? My screens and clients are side-by-side. I think I spotted the issue: Cilly is using a beige-box Dell and a 1024x768 monitor from 2003. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/444 "2022-03-08T03:12:16Z")
I have multiple eyes, it’s normal on my home planet. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 3:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/445 "2022-03-08T03:17:54Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > My screens and clients are side-by-side. So what ? You can only focus on one screen at a time. It does not matter if you switch back and forth every 2 seconds…by definition you spend 30 seconds of every minute not looking at one of them. If you have 6 screens, then you are spending 50 minutes every hour not looking at 5 of them. If a miner was AFK from ONE screen for 50 mins every hour Aiko would be up in arms…citing CODE violation xyz…yet some multiboxer can effectively be absent from screens for the same period every hour and …oh…it’s conveniently ‘pedantic’…lol ! ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/446 "2022-03-08T03:18:26Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > It does not matter This is pedantry. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 3:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/447 "2022-03-08T03:19:18Z")
Well, I can’t even focus on 100% of the entirety of one screen either. I can maybe pay attention to a third of it at any given time. Like, say, I can be reading the chat window, or looking at the overview, or looking at the space in the middle. Does that mean I’m 2/3 AFK even with just one client? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/448 "2022-03-08T03:21:45Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > This is pedantry. Ah yes…a word that translates to ’ you hit the nail right on the head ’ ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 3:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/449 "2022-03-08T03:25:57Z")
Cilly is salty because she wants to play AFK. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 3:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/450 "2022-03-08T03:27:12Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Does that mean I’m 2/3 AFK even with just one client? No…but I think any rational person ( who knows…there might even be some in Eve ) would agree that there is at least _some_ degree of hypocrisy in multiboxers rattling on about the evil of people being ‘AFK’. It may not be of the same degree or kind, but there is definitely a double standard there. Gotta say…I love whoever is playing the didgeridoo at Amarr Empire station…well that is what it sounds like. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 4:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/451 "2022-03-08T04:29:15Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > An you don’t consider multiboxing to be AFK ? In the literal technical sense a person may be ‘at their keyboard’, but if they are not always looking at a particular screen then they are just as much ‘AFK’ as anyone watching Home & Away with Eve minimised. We already established MBing isn’t AFK. Unsure why you keep trying to push this narrative LOL. > [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Not really…you’re just juggling semantics. Mm not really. They are at the keyboard. Literally not AFK. You’re trying so hard to make MBing AFK and obv reason is obv. You obv want it nerfed to hurt gankers who MB. Guess what bruv? CCP ain’t ever gonna give up that sweet cash 😃 Keep crying tho, its lovely. I am true solo myself, and I accept the risk. Do the same or MB yourself 😃 > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > My screens and clients are side-by-side. > > I think I spotted the issue: Cilly is using a beige-box Dell and a 1024x768 monitor from 2003. She’s trying to angle for MBing to get nerfed to hurt ganking. She doesn’t get CCP will _never_ give up that cash LOL. > [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > at least _some_ degree of hypocrisy in multiboxers rattling on about the evil of people being ‘AFK’. Nope. Because MBers aren’t AFK. They are literally at their keyboard. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/452 "2022-03-08T07:07:10Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Maybe that’s why Dracvlad was afraid of the war? Rent free in that head of yours again. But what am I supposed to be scared of exactly, an inability to use a market hub that I already don’t use? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/453 "2022-03-08T07:10:29Z")
Ah, but **why** don’t you use that hub? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/454 "2022-03-08T07:10:32Z")
Whoosh! ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/455 "2022-03-08T07:21:58Z")
Don’t forget that I have Aiko blocked, so yes whoooosh… I have no idea what I am supposed to be scared about, ship loss does not bother me in the slightest… ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/456 "2022-03-08T07:25:41Z")
Do you know what a woosh stands for, Dracvlad? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/457 "2022-03-08T07:26:44Z")
How does someone sitting in a trade hub I don’t use, supposed to scare me? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/458 "2022-03-08T07:28:34Z")
No Dracvlad, I have YOU blocked. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/459 "2022-03-08T07:31:50Z")
Dracvlad is one of those people who says “well, can’t really say that I agree with the presenter, airline peanuts aren’t all _that_ bad” after the show is over. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/460 "2022-03-08T07:34:17Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > So what ? You can only focus on one screen at a time. It does not matter if you switch back and forth every 2 seconds…by definition you spend 30 seconds of every minute not looking at one of them. If you have 6 screens, then you are spending 50 minutes every hour not looking at 5 of them. If a miner was AFK from ONE screen for 50 mins every hour Aiko would be up in arms…citing CODE violation xyz…yet some multiboxer can effectively be absent from screens for the same period every hour and …oh…it’s conveniently ‘pedantic’…lol ! Oh for the love of god. Are you being for real? You get that multi boxers are not running 6 different accounts that are in 6 different regions of space? For example if I am running my two accounts together I am mining. I.e. same system so…… same local. So if I’m looking at local chat on one account it’s the same as on the other. I’m getting intel for both. I’m my case they are both in the same belt. So if I dscan on one. It will return exactly the same result as the other. So again doing it for one does it for both. And most importantly if I am looking at the screen for one character I can see the other one right there next to me. Gankers are no different. They need the numbers for the gank. It’s not like all their alts are scattered around new Eden and active intel checks need to be done on ever character constantly. Comparing this to being AFK may be the stupidest thing you have said to date and that’s quite an achievement. I look forward to June/July when in usual fashion you will make the complete opposite argument and present it like some great epiphany on your voyage of self discovery. Seriously. Just quit being a d\*ck for one day. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/461 "2022-03-08T07:38:14Z")
Aiko is blocked for over doing it and making false and stupid accusations of a RL nature. So I repeat AIko is blocked, and I have nothing to be scared off, after all you are a war deccer who is too scared to put a war HQ up. And you sit in a market hub that I never use and I have no worries about losing ships. And of course can’t see that war dec notification either… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466.md?page=22) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466.md?page=24)