# The gate to Sivala **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [February 27, 2022, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466 "2022-02-27T08:18:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/462 "2022-03-08T07:42:14Z")
You are in fact rather wrong here, I bumped one of Aiko’s alts off of tether in a Tornado, which had been left in another system while Aiko was doing something else, and was very much AFK. I have no idea however how a person who only mines and does exploration knows anything about this? CIlla’s point is well made: > [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Not really…you’re just juggling semantics. The issue is whether a person is paying specific attention to what is on a _specific screen_. Whether they are walking the dog or having a holiday in Barbados is irrelevant. Going without looking at a specific screen for one reason…is as good or bad as going without looking at that specific screen for any other reason. The entire basis of the ‘AFK’ claim is that of not paying attention. There is zero difference between having one screen open and not paying attention to it…and having 6 screens open and not paying attention to 5 of them. In fact the latter is probably worse. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/463 "2022-03-08T07:42:56Z")
You still seem to be very confused about this challenge. The challenge wasn’t for destiny to war dec you and hunt you. It was you to go hunt destiny. It’s not a difficult concept. It’s been explained multiple times. Constantly getting the details wrong and repeating is doing you no good. You can keep bringing it up in ever post if you wish. All it does is continue to highlight your own cowardice and ineptitude. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/464 "2022-03-08T07:44:29Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > CIlla’s point is well made: Is it though? Or are you just agreeing with the only idiot on the forums that’s still happy to stroke your bone? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/465 "2022-03-08T07:49:16Z")
Constantly jumping in and going on and on about a rejected challenge is rather amusing to me. Keep doing it, I told Destiny that the real challenge was to act like a proper war deccer. And the cowardice is all Destiny’s. We have war decced gankers perches and removed them using a war HQ, something that your super brave war deccer cannot do. And something you cannot do either for that matter. > [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > Is it though? Or are you just agreeing with the only idiot on the forums that’s still happy to stroke your bone? The question stands, how can a person who only mines and does exploration talk about ganking and AG like you do. Many people make the point about people who do AG that you cannot talk about ganking when you have not done it, but why do you get a free pass? > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Maybe that’s why Dracvlad was afraid of the war? I did not mention it also, I replied to it, so why aren’t you asking the same question to a war deccer who is afraid to war dec? Every time you jump in, I get the impression that I have been savaged by a dead sheep. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/466 "2022-03-08T07:59:31Z")
I never once said anything about the Queen Bee and her men , I have always been a supporter of game play ganking ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/467 "2022-03-08T08:01:22Z")
I’m just waiting for you to be more active than logging in for five minutes once every two weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/468 "2022-03-08T08:01:44Z")
I log in every day for several hours at a time. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/469 "2022-03-08T08:02:14Z")
LOL No, you do not. This has already been visually confirmed. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/470 "2022-03-08T08:03:21Z")
For today as it’s my thread let’s try and keep all answers to say one sentence ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/471 "2022-03-08T08:03:26Z")
That is news to me, your intel sure sucks big time, have you been taking lessons on intel from Gix? ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/472 "2022-03-08T08:07:00Z")
So we went past the Sivala gate and lost two ships , it was good fun all the same , well done criminals and scallywags of sivala. Just as a bit of fun we keep track of our ships and what they do , one ship was on its maiden voyage after being a prize in our corp competition , so sorry to the person who donated it to us but it did save some other ship from being ganked , maybe 😚 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/473 "2022-03-08T08:08:06Z")
I love that you used the word scallywags, more olde English please. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/474 "2022-03-08T08:14:47Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > For today as it’s my thread let’s try and keep all answers to say one sentence Be careful what you wish for, because seeing as how it is possible to string together words in effective perpetuity, sentences can end up being extremely long and difficult to read and comprehend, further exacerbating the problem you wish to avoid with your altruistic but ultimately misguided request intended to keep things simple and relatively amicable through the absence of long, drawn-out regurgitation of tired old arguments that do nothing but go back and forth without reaching any sort of consensus and closure that are so desperately craved by forum participants who rarely seem to get the answers they need despite having all the information (perhaps even too much information) they could ever want, with the resulting paradox of choice creating much frustration for all involved participants, made worse only by having to expend copious amounts of time and mental energy to get through downright rage-inducing run-on sentences like the particular example you are reading, and most definitely not enjoying, at this very moment. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/475 "2022-03-08T08:15:20Z")
Lol thank you Destiny ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/476 "2022-03-08T08:15:47Z")
I was actually expecting Destiny to do that, lol ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/477 "2022-03-08T08:16:17Z")
Of course. You are just _too good._ ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/478 "2022-03-08T08:18:19Z")
Obvious is obvious… Oh dear I just saw the frenzied typing of a salivating and wild Gix pop up as I checked this thread, do you think he will ever understand that he is blocked and I never look at his stuff. You know madness is doing the same thing again and again and expecting a different outcome… Every time I see any sight of Gix I instantly think about that wonderful joke by Cilla, Saliva indeed… ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/479 "2022-03-08T08:26:37Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > I never once said anything about the Queen Bee and her men , I have always been a supporter of game play ganking LOL you just did ROFL. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > That is news to me, your intel sure sucks big time, have you been taking lessons on intel from Gix? Bro you know you don’t undock 😃 > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Obvious is obvious… Ew. Can you stop copying me? It gives me the ick. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/480 "2022-03-08T08:45:03Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Constantly jumping in and going on and on about a rejected challenge is rather amusing to me. Conveniently forgetting the part where you brought it up a few posts before hand. But your amusement does seem to be linked to your inability to deal with instances when your are wrong 🙂 > [@Dracvlad](#): > > I told Destiny that the real challenge was to act like a proper war deccer. I turned up to the olympics and told the judges in gymnastics event that the real skill was bouncing my beer gut. We can reframe things and say things all we want. Doesn’t mean we are correct. The challenge was to prove you could disrupt destiny’s gameplay due to your claims of your mere presence causing entire fleets to dock up. Declining the challenge also claiming victory/superiority is very transparent. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > And something you cannot do either for that matter. And your point. When have i ever claimed to have done anything along those lines. What has my ability got to do with your constant boasts and inability to follow that up with action in game. Like i said earlier. Cowardice and ineptitude. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > The question stands, how can a person who only mines and does exploration talk about ganking and AG like you do. Because like every other player I am entitled to my opinion. If we all just talked about the bits of the game we did the forum would be very boring. For instance this would limit your participation to threads about the interior decoration of stations. But coming back to case in point. Cilla is incorrectly claiming that multi boxing is akin to AFK play. You are agreeing with that based on some time you bumped Aiko when she was AFK. So it begs the questions….. Is this > [@Dracvlad](#): > > I bumped one of Aiko’s alts off of tether in a Tornado, which had been left in another system while Aiko was doing something else, and was very much AFK. More common than > [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > For example if I am running my two accounts together I am mining. I.e. same system so…… same local. So if I’m looking at local chat on one account it’s the same as on the other. I’m getting intel for both. > > I’m my case they are both in the same belt. So if I dscan on one. It will return exactly the same result as the other. So again doing it for one does it for both. > > And most importantly if I am looking at the screen for one character I can see the other one right there next to me. > > Gankers are no different. They need the numbers for the gank. It’s not like all their alts are scattered around new Eden and active intel checks need to be done on ever character constantly. Since you have far more experience in game then me I’d be interested in your opinion. Or we could make a challenge out of it. We could go fly around gankerville some evening. Every time you find a lone ganker alt you can bump you get a point. Every time we see a group up multiboxers huddled up in the same system i get a point. Cant argue with science. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/481 "2022-03-08T08:49:01Z")
Blah blah blah, did not read, no value in doing so as you have no experience in any of these things. Do some ganking, do some AG, war dec someone then talk to me. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466.md?page=23) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466.md?page=25)