# The gate to Sivala **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [February 27, 2022, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466 "2022-02-27T08:18:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/482 "2022-03-08T08:51:13Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Blah blah blah, did not read, no value in doing so as you have no experience in any of these things. Am i getting ignored to? This reminds me of the time you were doubling down on claiming that it was impossible to avoid gankers by using local and dscan. Everything is blah blah blah when you look silly šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/483 "2022-03-08T08:51:51Z")
And another case in point where you have no experience of mining in a busy pipe system. Blah blah blah, indeedā€¦ Look a salivating GIX inboundā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/484 "2022-03-08T08:53:15Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > no experience of mining in a busy pipe system Because that is stupid and suicidal. The whole point in that thread was that you move to quieter systems to increase safety. Re-read that thread. Itā€™s very entertaining. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/485 "2022-03-08T08:54:09Z")
As I said you have not mined in a busy pipe system. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/486 "2022-03-08T08:55:15Z")
I have. I was losing ships. So i moved to quieter systems. And hey prestoā€¦ā€¦ā€¦I stopped losing ships. When i explained this concept to youā€¦ā€¦ā€¦.You declared it impossible and put me on ignore. It was delightful ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/487 "2022-03-08T08:55:46Z")
You have no idea on how to successfully mine in a busy pipe system. And I put you on ignore because you were flogging a dead horse over several posts. Go get some experience in Eve before polluting threads with your rubbish. As for declaring it impossible, my hisec base for many years was Khafis, it was a pipe system but a under used one. This guy has just no idea about wellā€¦ anythingā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/488 "2022-03-08T08:58:46Z")
Why would anyone want to mine in a busy pipe system. I mean i get how its in the interests of AG. You want the systems to be busy which attracts gankersā€¦ā€¦ā€¦which in turn provides AG content. Giving new miners good advice to avoid these areas and mine in quieter systems isnā€™t something you do because if everyone gets the memo gankers need to spread out and your content becomes more spread out. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/489 "2022-03-08T08:59:24Z")
Ask the people who mine in such systems, hell people mine in Uedama. Go and ask them instead of waffling on the forums. A Salivating GIX spotted typing againā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/490 "2022-03-08T09:01:52Z")
Are these the same people that make the ā€œget rid of ganking threadsā€ because they keep losing ships? If people want to make an informed choice to mine there fine. But its safer to mine in quieter systems. Or are you seriously going to argue with that as well? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/491 "2022-03-08T09:02:19Z")
Go and ask them, I would actually be rather interested to hear their answer too. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/492 "2022-03-08T09:03:05Z")
Iā€™m asking you. You are the one that put me on ignore for saying this before. You must have an opinion? ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/493 "2022-03-08T09:04:00Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Blah blah blah, did not read, no value in doing so as you have no experience in any of these things. > > Do some ganking, do some AG, war dec someone then talk to me. So you dodged all his points in cowardice. Excellent šŸ˜ƒ > [@Dracvlad](#): > > And another case in point where you have no experience of mining in a busy pipe system. Why would you? Thatā€™s a good way to die LOL. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Look a salivating GIX inboundā€¦ Ahh someone is lying again huh? And can read the bottom šŸ˜ƒ > [@Dracvlad](#): > > As I said you have not mined in a busy pipe system. Again, why would you? > [@Dracvlad](#): > > You have no idea on how to successfully mine in a busy pipe system Why would you LOL. Is this the advice you give newbs? You literally feed them to the gankers LOL. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Go get some experience in Eve before polluting threads with your rubbish. Experience in EVE is knowing its dumb mining in a pipe system LOL. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > A Salivating GIX spotted typing againā€¦ Iā€™m still typing cause the post is open šŸ˜ƒ Unlike you, I generally play and read the forums at the same time šŸ˜ƒ > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Ask the people who mine in such systems, hell people mine in Uedama. Go and ask them instead of waffling on the forums. Yea cause they dumb son. Also its safe to mine in Uedama. No gankers is gonna pull CONCORD into a belt just for a miner. Shows how much you know huh šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/494 "2022-03-08T09:04:15Z")
Yeah, I have an opinion or two on this, but as you seem to think everything I say is worthless I am not going to share it with you. You will need to work that out for yourself. Toddle pip, off you goā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/495 "2022-03-08T09:06:55Z")
Ha ha. You are so twisted up in your ego that you cant even bring yourself to concede the single point that mining in a quieter system is safer. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/496 "2022-03-08T09:07:52Z")
You went Cathy Newman on me there, that is not what I said at all, that is your warped and stupid interpretation of it. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/497 "2022-03-08T09:08:43Z")
Ok for clarity and to avoid any unnecessary confusionā€¦. Is mining in a quieter system safer than mining in a pipe system? Yes or no? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/498 "2022-03-08T09:09:29Z")
I was hisec mining in Khafis, a quiet pipe system. My new hisec base is also a quiet pipe system. But I have to ask what is a quieter system, because by definition you have suggested that pipe is equal to not quiet? ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/499 "2022-03-08T09:10:39Z")
In which case i assume local and dscan were adequate to allow you to avoid gankers? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/500 "2022-03-08T09:11:32Z")
Well they were not busy systems full of people. Sort of talks for itself doesnā€™t it? ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/501 "2022-03-08T09:12:10Z")
For clarity is that a yes? I wouldnā€™t want to be accused of being Cathy Newman again. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466.md?page=24) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466.md?page=26)