# The gate to Sivala **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [February 27, 2022, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466 "2022-02-27T08:18:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/562 "2022-03-08T15:40:13Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Doesn’t matter. You mined But according to your blog, or some other statement you made somewhere…you yourself started with mining…even if only for 10 minutes. Haha…I think a pic of Aiko in a Venture would probably outprice the Mona Lisa. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/563 "2022-03-08T15:42:13Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > you yourself started with mining… Nope, I did the math, and (unlike you) I was smart to never start. Just say no to mining. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/564 "2022-03-08T16:14:04Z")
Gankpro 4.2 doesn’t have the facility to gank while I take my pussy for a walk. You know something I don’t? ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/4/2/f4284e59f620e656a26d2c7599765db88d2e1583.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/565 "2022-03-08T16:20:36Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > you yourself started with mining 10 minutes of mining is torture, so boring, enough to make you bang your head against the wall then blow up every miner in existence. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/566 "2022-03-08T16:37:26Z")
I wont argue with that. I think what finally got me sick of mining asteroids was that a Procurer has to mine for over 40 hours just to get the equivalent ISK of the price of a pint of beer. I’d sooner just spend 5 minutes getting PLEX and be done with it. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/567 "2022-03-08T16:39:20Z")
So that would mean gankers are the GOOD guys… …euthanizing bot aspirant miners and helping them do something else. ---
**Author:** ![Shama\_Olgidar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shama_olgidar/32/514019_2.png) [@Shama\_Olgidar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shama_Olgidar)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/568 "2022-03-08T16:41:51Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > gankers are the GOOD guys I am not sure I would go that far, but they do serve a purpose. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/569 "2022-03-08T16:52:03Z")
The lions eat the sickly gazelle. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/570 "2022-03-08T16:53:56Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > …euthanizing bot aspirant miners and helping them do something else. I personally don’t believe _anyone_ joins Eve in the first place with the idea of ending up watching a mining laser for years. Maybe a handful do…but I think the majority just end up getting sidelined down that route and all the original images of glorious Star Wars type battles that they joined for end up being forgotten. So _of course_ ganking serves a useful reminder…'hey…_this_ is what you joined the game for ’ What’s more, ganking serves as something useful to be ‘against’. That in itself drives the path away from mining. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/571 "2022-03-08T17:07:33Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > ganking You should learn to do it… …before you start yapping about it. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/572 "2022-03-08T17:19:22Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > You should learn to do it… Ah…lesson 1 in Ganking.. 1. Call yourself Mr Serious 2. Join Safety 3. Set up 400DPS T1 Catalyst…5 minute job…no need to learn shields, you wont be needing those 4. Find hapless 21 day old Venture miner in Kamio who likely has no idea what a Catalyst even is. 5. Lock on target 6. Press F1 7. Blow said Venture to bits. 8. Congratulate self on sheer bravery and skill. Did I miss something ? I’m amazed people aren’t doing university courses in this, as it is clearly much harder than quantum mechanics. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/573 "2022-03-08T17:59:43Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > I personally don’t believe _anyone_ joins Eve in the first place with the idea of ending up watching a mining laser for years. And you’d be very, _very_ wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/574 "2022-03-08T18:35:18Z")
All I have to say to that is Netflix… ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/575 "2022-03-08T18:42:29Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Did I miss something ? Yep. Gonna have to stop theorycrafting, and start undocking. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/576 "2022-03-08T19:38:05Z")
To be honest, I had a blonde moment and respeced 3 of my alts, deciding to give mining a shot, one flying an orca, the other 2 flying exhumers. Incredibly boring way to earn a measly 100 million per hour. Respeced back before you could say @Dracvlad is a bleep bleep Much for fun blowing up miners than rocks. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/577 "2022-03-08T19:44:04Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I am just rather amused at the simple fact that a comment on the use of local in busy systems to identify incoming gankers gets turned into a yes/no answer on whether off the track systems that are also not on pipes are safer. Cathy Newman indeed. Spend a month mining in Poinen. Lemme know how it goes 😃 > [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > Because you know if you answer it honestly you have to concede a point and your ego is incapable of doing that. And if you answer dishonestly you will look silly. Bangarang 😃 > [@Dracvlad](#): > > I was also intrigued at the time because I had been warned by a moderator for going off topic, so I was fascinated if that same moderator would react to you, and he of course failed that test. Maybe cause you’re a tosser mate 😃 > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Yeah Cathy Newman style silliness, a really classic what you are saying, which had no relation to the original point. Wut. How is it silly? And man its so cringe that you just copy people LOL. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > this was not exactly easy in a busy system It is, Shipwreck shared the secret knowledge. But then you thought an MTU was a mobile depot so 😃 > [@Dracvlad](#): > > And what relationship does that have with my comment to a ganker that watching local in a busy system being pretty difficult and worthless in the main? Does stating the obvious on some wild tangent invalidate my question to the ganker? Look at him dance 😃 > [@Dracvlad](#): > > I have you as number 2. I used to moderate a forum or two and I was well aware of this second type. They always gave themselves away by at some point calling the other person stupid. And you have done that, I just banned them from the forum. LOL, yes we know you love power tripping. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > You think you are very good at this, but in truth you are utterly appalling… Nah bro. He got you dead to rights and its so fun seeing you dance to try and get out of it 😃 > [@Dracvlad](#): > > I know what you are doing, the issue is that the forum moderators here don’t. So you know these forums better than the ISDs huh? Curious 😃 Esp since they don’t seem to agree with you hm? > [@Dracvlad](#): > > So I have decided to block you again, I hope you get better at this but I doubt it. Two week block applied. Remember that the ISD will only come after me, not you for off-topic posting. ROFL. Dude you are a child and it is _hilarious_. > [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > I would however like to apologise to @Githany_Red . The nature of standing up to this fool inevitable means lots of posting in order to stop him constantly reframing issues and lying about things he has previously said. The intention was not to bomb your thread. Nah don’t apologize mate. This is the king she sacrificed her own and her corp’s credibility. She made her own grave willingly. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > The reason for my block is stated. I think he is trolling in a very dishonest way. He also has nothing to add to anything discussed, having no experience or knowledge in these subjects. There is no value in me interacting with him until he gets better both in Eve and on the forums. LOL what troll the truth. He already has experienced and knowledge. You just got pwnt 😃 > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Githany has already said otherwise, and I do have a following, I often get people waving at me in local. So you know, you don’t see what I see. Quoting this so you can’t change it later. Yes, we are well aware you do it for clout. And you used @Githany_Red as part of that clout chasing. Although she also messed up by letting you do it. @Githany_Red this your king? He’s all but admitted using you for clout. You still gonna back this guy? > [@Dracvlad](#): > > All I have to say to that is Netflix… @Cilla_Cybin your boy is advocating for AFK mining right here. How’s that gel with you 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2022, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/578 "2022-03-08T20:04:20Z")
I’d like to join one of his gangs/fleets one day, assuming he ever actively plays again. And I don’t mean during one of the AG “ops,” but an _actual_ PvP operation of some sort. I’m morbidly curious how he behaves during those. ---
**Author:** ![Leggone\_Stracks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leggone_stracks/32/290900_2.png) [@Leggone\_Stracks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leggone_Stracks)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 3:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/579 "2022-03-09T03:55:21Z")
But if that Venture is in scram range, that awesome glass cannon will go down. You won’t be able to hit the Venture. That Venture needs some drones though. And it better spiral in on you. All this is assuming being not in Concordville. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 3:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/580 "2022-03-09T03:58:20Z")
She doesn’t understand that as she’s never really PvPed yet. HS is her only frame of ref. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 4:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/581 "2022-03-09T04:03:46Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > I’m amazed people aren’t doing university courses in this, Actually they do. We attended EVE University obtaining degrees in Ganking, Aiko being top of the class. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466.md?page=28) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466.md?page=30)