# The gate to Sivala **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [February 27, 2022, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466 "2022-02-27T08:18:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/102 "2022-03-01T17:49:45Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Actually I think you are skilled and knowledgeable player. You need to make up your mind already. Anyway, let’s have that list. War HQ already exists, as I own multiple stations; I just don’t use them for outgoing wars. I assume declaring war on BF (and winning, because _“real”_ PvPers are winners) is going to be one of your requirements? What else? Let’s get like a solid dozen of points in there. Taking away some sovereignty from Goons? Becoming a full-time null-sec FC? The world is your oyster, Dracvlad. Let’s have it. > [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > I think you’re just evading the point. By their very nature, corps, alliance, etc mean you are a small cog in someone else’s machine. Sure, one ‘can’ do all the other things you mentioned…but most in Safety that I have seen are the Two-Percenters, who strut about because they killed 1/50th of some hapless barge. Lone wolfs like myself would far rather kill all or die all…100% victory or 100% loss. If a little ‘noble warrior’ can be thrown in too then so much the better…but for me AG is a fight against the arrogance of Two-Percenters ( a lovely term I will increasingly use ) who strut about like God’s gift just because they broke the wing mirror on a barge. I’ve never seen any gankers be truly arrogant. It probably happens, but certainly not in the way you describe. Most of the arrogance and boasting comes from null-sec players, who both consider themselves to be "_real"_ PvPers, _and_ are anointed as such by all the carebears who are trying to find reprieve by shaming the griefer scumbags into leaving them alone and going somewhere where there’s "_real"_ PvP. So if your issue is with getting only 2% of a kill in a 15-minute gank, imagine taking part in a 6-hour fleet operation with hundreds of players involved, and effectively winding up with only half of a single Muninn behind your belt. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/5/3/e53718e386183197f98070d42a75e854e0606bb8.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/103 "2022-03-01T18:20:36Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > You need to make up your mind already. You tend not to read what others say, you read what you think they say. Stating that requiring me to war dec you showed weakness as a war deccer. It does not mean that you are unskilled or unknowledgeable at all. Your Killboard indicates to me that you are a pretty decent small target war deccer. Here is the thing, you have some people who will go for your war HQ when you go for it, but why does that bother you? To me you have to break that log jam at some point or force your way through it in some way. You are allying in on wars, but you want to be able to do wars, well make them work for it. And this reluctance on your part to accept such a loss is very much at odds with your forum rhetoric. Personally I wanted the war dec system not to be restricted against entities with structures, on the other side I wanted all entities to be able to do three war decs, but to do more than three they would ahve to put down a war HQ, this was a much more sensible way to do wars and CCP always over reacts. But this is the game, you just have to get past that. It just seemed incredibly weak to do a challenge like you did to get me to war dec you. All my war decs have been on specific strategic targets to destroy. WHich is why you wanted me to have something like that. At some point you might get your chance, but you have to wait for it. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/104 "2022-03-01T18:30:26Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Here is the thing, you have some people who will go for your war HQ when you go for it, but why does that bother you? To me you have to break that log jam at some point or force your way through it in some way. You are allying in on wars, but you want to be able to do wars, well make them work for it. And this reluctance on your part to accept such a loss is very much at odds with your forum rhetoric. You’re confusing not willing to accept losses with being unwilling to dedicate the effort required to scale up my gameplay in such a manner. I have enough going on in my life to not desire alarm-clocking citadel defense ops. Money isn’t an issue, Dracvlad. I’ve got trillions of it. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > But this is the game, you just have to get past that. It just seemed incredibly weak to do a challenge like you did to get me to war dec you. All my war decs have been on specific strategic targets to destroy. WHich is why you wanted me to have something like that. At some point you might get your chance, but you have to wait for it. You’re nitpicking again. I already told you that a war HQ isn’t even required for this. The only condition I will set is that both sides maintain war eligibility, that’s it. And that can be done by hiding a station or owning a single POCO somewhere. The point of the challenge isn’t to expose anyone’s citadel to attack to troll them into taking a loss; it’s to entice you out of your rental hidey-hole and force you to actually be proactive, as opposed to sitting in a station all day and vomiting up an occasional smack line into local. That’s why the reward money is being put up for success. And I’m not waiting for anything. The offer isn’t going to stay open forever, and at some point only the history of it being made (and ducked) will exist in the form of linkable forum posts. Anyway, why are you hijacking this thread with your nonsense too? We already have a discussion about this in the other one. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/105 "2022-03-01T19:14:33Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > You’re confusing not willing to accept losses with being unwilling to dedicate the effort required to scale up my gameplay in such a manner. I have enough going on in my life to not desire alarm-clocking citadel defense ops. So you have a restriction on your play, like many other people. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Money isn’t an issue, Dracvlad. I’ve got trillions of it. Well in your shoes I would let them get bored structure bashing… > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > You’re nitpicking again. I already told you that a war HQ isn’t even required for this. The only condition I will set is that both sides maintain war eligibility, that’s it. And that can be done by hiding a station or owning a single POCO somewhere. Here is the thing, it is nothing to do with nit-picking. The wars I have been involved in have specific strategic objectives, you want to prove something or other over hurt feelings in the forums, while to me this is a bit of a joke. You seem to think that I have to prove something, or that I am invalidated in some way by this, which is complete baloney. As I have said the alliance I am in can be war decced now, but you have not. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > it’s to entice you out of your rental hidey-hole and force you to actually be proactive, as opposed to sitting in a station all day and vomiting up an occasional smack line into local. That is hilariously funny, I did not know I was renting from anyone for a start? That is a new one one me, seriously amusing, where do you get your intel from? Gix? And what does that even mean, is this the issue with what you call slippery targets, because that is what I am, I guess that is a compliment, because I fight only on my own terms in the main. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > That’s why the reward money is being put up for success. And I’m not waiting for anything. The offer isn’t going to stay open forever, and at some point only the history of it being made (and ducked) will exist in the form of linkable forum posts. And this is where I start laughing, you think it means something? Nothing is stopping you from war deccing me and trying to come after me, you don’t need this 10 billion. I have already told you that I think it is a pathetic joke and suggested that you just war dec and start trying to hunt and kill, what is stopping you? ANd to call it an offer too, just do it if you can… So what if you are going to run around telling all that I ducked out of this challenge, it means something to you, but for me it means nothing, it is totally unimportant and irrelevant, I mean what I said, a war deccer wants me to war dec them as a challenge, yeah right… That fool Dom Arkaral tried the exact same thing by declaring a duel at the sun or something at a time and place, it was funny as hell, this is just a slightly enhanced version of that stupidity. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Anyway, why are you hijacking this thread with your nonsense too? We already have a discussion about this in the other one. Yeah this challenge is nonsense, glad you agree. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/106 "2022-03-01T19:25:36Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > The wars I have been involved in have specific strategic objectives And I offered you ten billion strategic objectives. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > you want to prove something or other over hurt feelings in the forums, while to me this is a bit of a joke You’re just straight-up straw-manning now. The only reason I’m doing this is because you constantly brag, and I’m calling you out on it. My feelings can’t be hurt because you’ve had literally zero impact on my gameplay, and I want you to prove to everybody here that you _can._ > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Nothing is stopping you from war deccing me and trying to come after me Except you staying permanently docked. * * * Anyway, you either fundamentally don’t understand the point and significance of a challenge (someone questioning your claims and honor, to which people in a competitive setting are reasonably expected to respond), or you’re _pretending_ not to, which is _considerably_ worse. If someone challenged me like this, I sure as hell wouldn’t find every reason under the sun to avoid having to deal with it. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/107 "2022-03-01T19:30:56Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > And I offered you ten billion strategic objectives. That is not a strategic objective. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > You’re just straight-up straw-manning now. The only reason I’m doing this is because you constantly brag, and I’m calling you out on it. My feelings can’t be hurt because you’ve had literally zero impact on my gameplay, and I want you to prove to everybody here that you _can._ Hurt feelings over what you think is bragging. Your game play has been forum warfare for years. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Except you staying permanently docked. Well I find that comment amusing…, when I came back it was late October, been away for over a year, when I got the end of year report on my activities in the game for my characters I was within the top six percent of people moving around hisec for that year after two months of play. Tell me again that I did not undock? > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Anyway, you either fundamentally don’t understand the point and significance of a challenge (someone questioning your claims and honor, to which people in a competitive setting are reasonably expected to respond), or you’re _pretending_ not to, which is _considerably_ worse. You think there is a point and a significance to it, but I don’t. Your challenge is like certain nullsec entities organising arena type fights, I found that pathetic too. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > If someone challenged me like this, I sure as hell wouldn’t find every reason under the sun to avoid having to deal with it. Well go and find the right person to challenge then, your target selection sucks big time. For a start I am not even in your TZ. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/108 "2022-03-01T19:37:10Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > How you go on its like we are exploiting something in the game by not doing it the right way , You aren’t exploiting something, leave the hysterics at home. You are simply doing it bad. There are a plethora of tools out there to help you if you actually want to RP. > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > all I do is fight criminals, pirates and the people who take part in skullduggery You literally have these people in your corp. So again, do you fight them? > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Starting to feel victimised because how I decided to play the game , ever post I make your there nitpicking. Ew. Save the victim card and put it down LOL. No one cares that you AG. You aren’t being “victimized”, you are simply saying you RP but you aren’t actually doing it. > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > It’s getting boring being told you don’t RP the right way Then start doing it right LOL. I mean if you simply changed your corp name, it’d solve all your problems. > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > I want to do something else , start ganking and murdering and I’ll be happy with your opposition to me , otherwise stop whining. Except your corp members literally murder and apparently that’s ok. Do you not see the dichotomy or > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Get out there and do what you think AG is then, put up or shut up. Bro you don’t even undock LOL. All you do is mod the AG channel with a bias and terribly LOL. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > which resulted in the A-list ganker Kusion logging off and not ganking Allegedly 😃 Did he in fact state that’s why he logged? Or are ya’ll just claiming like Cilla that someone warped off? > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Saying all this we all have to work within the game mechanics and some things are just not possible to do. And you still haven’t figured out how to really AG 😃 > [@Dracvlad](#): > > And you are always wrong… I mean I find Etch to be right pretty much most of the time. Funny how everyone is seemingly wrong but you 😃 But I mean if you got a marauder, you should take an MTU to refit with per your sage advice right 😃 > [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > Yes Yes - get rid of this structure bashing nonsense, return to the days of old, stand at the crossroads and look; ask for the ancient paths, let the blood flow. I mean I wish man. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > No you won’t. No offense, but not with your current leadership, and not while your current sole source of game knowledge is you-know-who. > > As I said the first time we talked about this like a year and a half ago (and then many times after), if you _wanted_ to do that, you’d be doing it _today._ I keep waffling between posting an actual AG guide to help them. But then I’m like, would they even do it? Probably not. > [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > That’s exactly how she tries to come across…rescuing highsec from those terrible miners who steal all the ore. It’s exactly the same ‘noble warrior’ scam the Wormhole Police use…a bunch of thugs pretending they are ‘protecting’ sacred relics. I mean NEPF is a scam too then by your logic. They literally have criminals in their corp 😃 > [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Forget the ‘noble warrior’ stuff, the sheer _arrogance_ of the two-percenters is what invokes a fight back. And what main are you doing the fighting on again? What’s funny is you say you like to fight and want to fight back, but hide behind your mining alt. Drop your main 😃 Why so scared? > [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Lone wolfs like myself would far rather kill all or die all…100% victory or 100% loss A lone wolf who wants total victory or death, but is afraid of their main being known. Huh. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > That fool Dom Arkaral So wait, you didn’t even duel this guy you hate? Well ROFL. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/109 "2022-03-01T19:40:32Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > You think there is a point and a significance to it, but I don’t. If you were a golfer, and another golfer challenged you to a game at the course, would you say the same thing? We can even say, hypothetically, that the other golfer is better, but they offered to start you two under par, and told you that they’d pay for a year of your membership if you won. Would you likewise twist and turn your way out of it, instead of accepting and trying your best? Fundamentally, it’s a _sport,_ Dracvlad. Maybe you’re not cognizant of this, but EVE warfare _isn’t actually real._ But you being a terrible sport yourself would explain this well. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Your challenge is like certain nullsec entities organising arena type fights, I found that pathetic too. It’s _nothing_ like that. The fact that there are no rules or predetermined confrontations of any sort has been reiterated over and over again. Once again, you’re just finding excuses. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > For a start I am not even in your TZ. Sure you are. I’m on, at various levels of activity, between 18:00 EVE time and downtime. I often have a lot of downtime at my work. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Well go and find the right person to challenge then Obviously I’ll _have_ to, since you’re a wuss. No one else here brags about being god’s gift to honorable PvP combat like you do, though. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/110 "2022-03-01T19:53:06Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > If you were a golfer, and another golfer challenged you to a game at the course, would you say the same thing? We can even say, hypothetically, that the other golfer is better, but they offered to start you two under par, and told you that they’d pay for a year of your membership if you won. Not even close. You war dec for targets of opportunity, I don’t. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Fundamentally, it’s a _sport,_ Dracvlad. Maybe you’re not cognizant of this, but EVE warfare _isn’t actually real._ But you being a terrible sport yourself would explain this well. LOL, seriously, I play this game as a survival game. No wonder we can’t agree on anything in terms of Eve. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > It’s _nothing_ like that. The fact that there are no rules or predetermined confrontations of any sort has been reiterated over and over again. Once again, you’re just finding excuses. Duels, organised battles and other such rubbish are of no interest to me at all. You are no threat to me, not even close, so I ignore you. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Sure you are. I’m on, at various levels of activity, between 18:00 EVE time and downtime. I often have a lot of downtime at my work. Then there is some overlap. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Obviously I’ll _have_ to, since you’re a wuss. Temper temper, put yourself out there to be a threat then see. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > No one else here brags about being god’s gift to honorable PvP combat like you do, though. I define myself in Eve as being competent and hard to kill. That I have detailed some of my successes when people try to tell me I have no experience obviously annoys you. Of course, your objective is forum warfare… ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/111 "2022-03-01T19:58:34Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Duels, organised battles and other such rubbish are of no interest to me at all. You are no threat to me, not even close, so I ignore you. Oh? Then how did you get the fleet to dock up then? ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/112 "2022-03-01T19:59:50Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > so I ignore you you arn’t doing a very good job of that are you. I dread to think how much time you have spent tying yourself in knots over this. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/113 "2022-03-01T20:10:24Z")
Your ignorance on that is bliss. Ignore as in in-game. What do I care about some one blowing up PH noobs on Amarr undock? As for this challenge I have clearly explained what I think of it, so without any more delay I will go do something else and check back what tangents you lot have gone off on in the morning. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/114 "2022-03-01T20:13:28Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > What do I care about some one blowing up PH noobs on Amarr undock? Well you keep bringing it up……. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/115 "2022-03-01T20:16:53Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Not even close. You war dec for targets of opportunity, I don’t. So you’re saying that you don’t expect to be able to beat me because I’d be better at this specific type of gameplay than you are? > [@Dracvlad](#): > > LOL, seriously, I play this game as a survival game. No wonder we can’t agree on anything in terms of Eve. I have over 10,000 hours in games like DayZ, H1Z1, Rust, etc. You can’t “play” a survival game by sitting at the trader in the safe zone, Dracvlad. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Duels, organised battles and other such rubbish are of no interest to me at all. You are no threat to me, not even close, so I ignore you. The challenge isn’t for me to be a threat to you, it’s for you to be a threat to me. So far, you’re failing at it quite handily, for someone who’s forced entire fleets to dock up at your mere presence. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/116 "2022-03-01T20:25:20Z")
> [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > Well you keep bringing it up……. This is obviously affecting him quite a lot, as is evident by all of the “I am laughing so much” comments, which are literally the #1 psychological marker for someone being upset. But instead of responding to it rationally by saying something like “this particular type of gameplay just doesn’t appeal to me” (which is something I’d say for example if someone challenged me to join a null-sec alliance), or “I am currently not interested due to my activities, but might be interested in the future,” he instead went for the “I’m not doing this because you’re so weak and inexperienced with the game and haven’t played recently” angle, which are reasons that make _him_ look bad for not taking a heavily-compensated challenge from someone who _he himself_ labeled as the underdog. This level of self-sabotage can only come from someone with an extreme deficiency of empathy and social skills. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/117 "2022-03-01T20:27:59Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > some one blowing up PH Huh. Well now we now why you don’t undock 😃 > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > I have over 10,000 hours in games like DayZ, H1Z1, Rust, etc. I kinda wanna get into Rust but I dunno haha. I also want to get Elden Ring so that may take some of time soon. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > This level of self-sabotage can only come from someone with an extreme deficiency of empathy and social skills. Preach. He allegedly has a wife and daughter too. Man. ---
**Author:** ![Mandalf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mandalf/32/278086_2.png) [@Mandalf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mandalf)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/118 "2022-03-01T22:23:30Z")
Thanks for your permission to RP and play Eve as we wish. You can submit an “RP consistency report” to our HR team if you wish, for review. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/119 "2022-03-01T22:49:27Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > most in Safety that I have seen are the Two-Percenters, who strut about because they killed 1/50th of some hapless barge. 🧐 Cilla, why do you constantly make overly exaggerated arguments, that make you appear totally mental, irrational, and inexperienced? Is it because you are a troll, like some people think, or are you actually just this oblivious to reality? I’m not even going to explain what % of a barge I normally shoot, but I can assure you that it is normally a bit higher than 2%. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/120 "2022-03-01T22:55:24Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > The challenge isn’t for me to be a threat to you, it’s for you to be a threat to me. @Dracvlad @Destiny_Corrupted I’ve been struggling to understand this whole challenge thing, but I finally get it. Destiny doesn’t want to wardec Dracvlad, she doesn’t want to attack him, because he is IRRELEVANT. Dracvlad doesn’t do anything, doesn’t have anything, isn’t anything - there’s nothing to attack! Dracvlad is a vapid mist of words, a ethereal wisp of nothingness. He will just dock up and link a killmail from a decade ago. Destiny is challenging Dracvlad to exist - to pose an actual threat, to become the dracula/vladtheimpaler he clearly envisioned when he created the character. Will Dracvlad seize the opportunity to summon himself into being, arising to fill us with dread terror, or will he hiss as he evaporates into the shadows? ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/121 "2022-03-01T23:08:27Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > EVE warfare _isn’t actually real._ Oh but it is. When a whinebaby is ganked, they get hit so hard that they end up back in WoW. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/1/7/017588e05f73c05a1875678bdbe9eac292ad63d2.gif) [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466.md?page=7)