# The gate to Sivala **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [February 27, 2022, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466 "2022-02-27T08:18:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/122 "2022-03-01T23:14:26Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > so I ignore you Dravclad, that is not the way you ignore ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/123 "2022-03-01T23:15:44Z")
> [@Mandalf](#): > > Thanks for your permission to RP and play Eve as we wish. You can submit an “RP consistency report” to our HR team if you wish, for review. Uh, _excuse me,_ I’d like to speak to a manager? One of your employees didn’t serve me with a smile while saving my unfit, auto-piloting hauler, and I would like compensation. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I’m not even going to explain what % of a barge I normally shoot, but I can assure you that it is normally a bit higher than 2%. I can definitely say that Aiko is a very ethical consumer of mining barges. When she butchers a Covetor or a Mackinaw, after efficiently delivering the final blow to ensure as little suffering as possible, she makes sure to use the _whole_ mining barge, without needlessly letting anything go to waste. The wreck is then opened, and the loot sectioned and appropriated to all participants according to their personal needs. The wreck itself is salvaged, with the salvage going toward the manufacture of hybrid collision accelerators to be used in subsequent hunts. Any ore present in its cargo hold is carefully collected and refined like fine caviar, to be used for the manufacture of Catalysts in the future. Even the frozen corpse yolk is collected from the broken egg of a capsule, which brings the children much joy. The entire process is actually very humane and organic. She doesn’t just pop off a few rounds into a Hulk and then leave it to suffer. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/124 "2022-03-01T23:17:47Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I define myself in Eve as being competent and hard to kill The station you fly makes you very hard to kill ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/b/6/cb6c2086c72c461cd152d4a1dbfc898a9a76a18f.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/125 "2022-03-01T23:48:02Z")
> [@Mandalf](#): > > Thanks for your permission to RP and play Eve as we wish. You can submit an “RP consistency report” to our HR team if you wish, for review. Welcome 😃 Ain’t my fault you don’t even follow your own doctrine LOL. ---
**Author:** ![Priest\_Hastor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/priest_hastor/32/309958_2.png) [@Priest\_Hastor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Priest_Hastor)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 5:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/126 "2022-03-02T05:38:59Z")
You all should just play and let others play the way they want. People that complain about others playstyle are silly. I gank all the time and I love this. Bring challenge please, otherwise this game is booooring. I’ll see y’all on grid I’m sure 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/127 "2022-03-02T05:44:28Z")
> [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > Well you keep bringing it up……. Because I do war decs for strategic tangible reasons. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > So you’re saying that you don’t expect to be able to beat me because I’d be better at this specific type of gameplay than you are? People who do this are not important to me. Nor do I feel the great need to rush off to hunt people station humping. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > I have over 10,000 hours in games like DayZ, H1Z1, Rust, etc. > > You can’t “play” a survival game by sitting at the trader in the safe zone, Dracvlad. Well you wouldn’t know would you. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > The challenge isn’t for me to be a threat to you, it’s for you to be a threat to me. So far, you’re failing at it quite handily, for someone who’s forced entire fleets to dock up at your mere presence. Haha, that event in Otela really got you didn’t it. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > This level of self-sabotage can only come from someone with an extreme deficiency of empathy and social skills. Here we go again, always this line of attack. > [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > Dravclad, that is not the way you ignore In-game. > [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > The station you fly makes you very hard to kill Structures can be blown up, are you playing a different game to me? As I said this challenge is pathetic, to have a war deccer beg me to war dec him is just so funny. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/128 "2022-03-02T05:51:36Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Haha, that event in Otela really got you didn’t it. Oh no. What are you accusing me of _this_ time? I am morbidly curious. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Serious](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_serious/32/289087_2.png) [@Mr\_Serious](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Serious)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/129 "2022-03-02T05:51:44Z")
Wait, theres ganking going on in uedama ? Fake news! Jason Kusion was invited to my bbq… he never mentioned anything about saliva. But he drank all of the beer. Sad ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/130 "2022-03-02T05:55:54Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > or someone who’s forced entire fleets to dock up at your mere presence. You mentioned it first so it evidently made an impression on you, though they did not dock up, they stopped shooting the structure and went back to Jita. As per normal I am detailing an actual moment that was funny and surprising, but it seems to have got up your nose. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Serious](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_serious/32/289087_2.png) [@Mr\_Serious](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Serious)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/131 "2022-03-02T05:55:57Z")
Amd this is why i love aiko… Im waiting for the official aiko danuja wifu to drop on the merch page ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/132 "2022-03-02T06:02:42Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > it seems to have got up your nose. Oh, okay. I thought you were doing your alt-probing paranoia thing again and accusing me of doing something there or whatnot. But it’s just this. Look, all I’m saying is, you make a lot of bold claims, but no one’s ever managed to observe you even do so much as undock with the serious intent to play, let alone engage in honorable warrior fleet maneuvers. I’d like to see it for myself, even just _once._ Because right now, you’re like a tree in the woods, Dracvlad. You keep telling everyone about all of those times you fell down, but no one’s actually heard the sound you make when you do. Can we at least get a Twitch stream of your heroic exploits one of these days? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/133 "2022-03-02T06:12:23Z")
You mean my greater understanding of certain Eve mechanics that certain people could not work out because they did not have the wit to do so. We all have stories or events like the Otela one, but for some reason you don’t like it. As for undocking, some of my kills have made it to Zkill, hard to do them without undocking? > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > engage in honorable warrior fleet maneuvers What does that even mean? Twitch stream, LMAO That is the ultimate dumb thing to do in Eve. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/134 "2022-03-02T06:16:55Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > You mean my greater understanding of certain Eve mechanics that certain people could not work out because they did not have the wit to do so. And yet you keep refusing to prove it. You just keep bragging, and bragging, and bragging about how good you are, but you never actually make a display of your skill. Do you really never get any cringe moments when you realize how that looks like to others? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/135 "2022-03-02T06:27:06Z")
I think the cringe comes from a war deccer who is unable to war dec, and does some airy fairy challenge to make up for their inability to do anything. Which is why I am enjoying pointing this out. As I said I have no issues what others think of this, I am just enjoying your cringe moment. You lot even made a fuss out of being unable to war dec Githany’s corp too at one point. The bragging is all from your side. Take this thread, it is to say that resisting gankers can be done and it can be effective. What Githany’s corp did is way more impressive then firing up 20 alt accounts like gankers do, they actually formed up 20 different people. That is impressive at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/136 "2022-03-02T06:37:43Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > You mentioned it first so it evidently made an impression on you, though they did not dock up, they stopped shooting the structure and went back to Jita. As per normal I am detailing an actual moment that was funny and surprising, but it seems to have got up your nose. Oh so you lied. Got it 😃 > [@Dracvlad](#): > > What Githany’s corp did is way more impressive then firing up 20 alt accounts like gankers do, they actually formed up 20 different people. That is impressive at this point. They literally have criminals in their corp. So by their own logic, they should be blowing up them too 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/137 "2022-03-02T06:38:30Z")
It is the _saddest_ thing _ever_ to observe a beta desperately try to act like an alpha in front of a whole bunch of people who easily see what’s going on, but the sunk cost fallacy has kicked in to such a degree that the person just _can’t stop._ 😧 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 6:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/138 "2022-03-02T06:42:02Z")
Here we go again, I am always reminded of Australian Excellence claiming to be an Alpha male, and not realising that Alpha males don’t need to make that claim, they just are… Remember it was you who brought up Alpha males here. Tell me again why you can’t war dec? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/139 "2022-03-02T06:44:32Z")
Destiny, feel free to quote my post so Dracvlad can read the explanation, since he apparently is still pretending to have me blocked. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/140 "2022-03-02T06:53:40Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Tell me again why you can’t war dec? Because the current system in place makes it impractical for a player who prefers solo activities to engage in this sort of gameplay without necessarily scaling up operations to include large-scale collective defense. Being a solo player, it would be impossible for me to defend a structure without invoking costs that are _unreasonably_ excessive. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I’ve been struggling to understand this whole challenge thing, but I finally get it. > > Destiny doesn’t want to wardec Dracvlad, she doesn’t want to attack him, because he is IRRELEVANT. Dracvlad doesn’t do anything, doesn’t have anything, isn’t anything - there’s nothing to attack! Dracvlad is a vapid mist of words, a ethereal wisp of nothingness. He will just dock up and link a killmail from a decade ago. > > Destiny is challenging Dracvlad to exist - to pose an actual threat, to become the dracula/vladtheimpaler he clearly envisioned when he created the character. Will Dracvlad seize the opportunity to summon himself into being, arising to fill us with dread terror, or will he hiss as he evaporates into the shadows? Aiko politely asked me to quote this so you can read it, because you have her banished to the phantom zone. So please read it a second time. And also this: > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > ![Untitled](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/8/6/c86ad5ae71d868af6a3d8f048d8274180b104cde.png) ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466/141 "2022-03-02T06:54:15Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I am always reminded of Australian Excellence I asked him if he had any response (if anyone could please quote this for Dracvlad). ![Untitled](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/8/6/c86ad5ae71d868af6a3d8f048d8274180b104cde.png) [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-gate-to-sivala/351466.md?page=8)