# The Grand Heist - Now Live! **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** release, official\ **Created:** [July 27, 2021, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-grand-heist-now-live/321516 "2021-07-27T11:00:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-grand-heist-now-live/321516/61 "2021-07-27T16:47:50Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > You said ore packs. > > But nice try. Thats the next step, i have up to a year left, remember ? At this rate, it might hit you all pretty fast salvos in the face … ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-grand-heist-now-live/321516/62 "2021-07-27T16:50:01Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > 100% agree, it’s just random Weren’t you all about adapting to changes one time ? What could’ve possibly made you change your mind ? ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-grand-heist-now-live/321516/63 "2021-07-27T16:51:25Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > i have up to a year left, remember ? And then you give me your stuff and biomass. > [@Verlyn](#): > > At this rate, it might hit you all pretty fast in the face … You understand that this is an **event**. Not selling isk in a pack… ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-grand-heist-now-live/321516/64 "2021-07-27T16:54:06Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > You understand that this is an **event**. Not selling isk in a pack… How many more ISK printing events can they come up with in a year ? Are you done being a jizzgurgling tryhard yet and admit they’re completely desperate already ? ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-grand-heist-now-live/321516/65 "2021-07-27T16:58:25Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > How many more ISK printing events can they come up with in a year ? What do you mean? You said ore packs. So even if they have a million isk printing events…it’s still not an **ore pack**. ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-grand-heist-now-live/321516/66 "2021-07-27T16:58:58Z")
> [@ZhaoMin](#): > > well, the announcement reads a lot like > “Let’s do an event that will drive PCU back up, free money for those who subscribe”, “We definitely double your game wallet if you give us real cash!” > > as to the aftermath and the effect on health of economy, ecosystem…that all gets thrown out of the window… > > Maybe PA told CCP - an Ultimatum that if they can’t get subscriber up, they are going to shutdown Eve…so thus the scrambling to lure ppl with isk printing promotions. This … ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-grand-heist-now-live/321516/67 "2021-07-27T17:00:14Z")
> [@ZhaoMin](#): > > so anything could happen, but the prospect of threat to current management could be real, and Eve can simply turn into a complete different form of MMO…maybe and perhaps most likely a F2P P2Win one, Ore packs! Ore packs! Ore packs! …nah they probably just remove industry and make it into a Eve Echo PC clone, clocks seem to be ticking for the end of Eve’s Sandbox days… 😛 And fukkin’this ---
**Author:** ![Moriar\_theChosen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moriar_thechosen/32/368191_2.png) [@Moriar\_theChosen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moriar_theChosen)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-grand-heist-now-live/321516/68 "2021-07-27T17:02:13Z")
I won 100 million ISK in the Rifter Arena, so I don’t really need these login rewards. FLEX 💪 ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-grand-heist-now-live/321516/69 "2021-07-27T17:03:05Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > What do you mean? > > You said ore packs. So even if they have a million isk printing events…it’s still not an **ore pack**. See quotes above. Ore packs. Aka, The removal of sandbox. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-grand-heist-now-live/321516/70 "2021-07-27T17:08:31Z")
Well, on the one hand you guys make the CSM look like Nostradomus. We said this would be the reaction. Now we wait to see if CCP gets what **they** expect out of this. m ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-grand-heist-now-live/321516/71 "2021-07-27T17:08:34Z")
Still isn’t in game. See you in a year. ---
**Author:** ![Ocean\_Ormand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ocean_ormand/32/206896_2.png) [@Ocean\_Ormand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ocean_Ormand)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-grand-heist-now-live/321516/72 "2021-07-27T17:08:54Z")
This is wrong. They have been selling plex = game time. Once you get the plex you can resell it on the market for isk. The isk comes from some other player through their in game activity. It’s not made from thin air. A direct injection of isk into a game that functions as an economic simulator is stupid. Kinda wish they still had an economist on staff. ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-grand-heist-now-live/321516/73 "2021-07-27T17:10:08Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > Still isn’t in game. See you in a year Orepacks = removal of sandbox in any shape or form. You probably read that right anyway. You’re like refusing to read between the lines just to save face in public, you’re pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-grand-heist-now-live/321516/74 "2021-07-27T17:12:59Z")
> [@Mike\_Azariah](#): > > Now we wait to see if CCP gets what **they** expect out of this. Care to indulge? ---
**Author:** ![Feronanthus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/feronanthus/32/245823_2.png) [@Feronanthus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Feronanthus)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-grand-heist-now-live/321516/75 "2021-07-27T17:17:00Z")
Look at Daddy Warbucks here with a whole extra 235m! Seriously, No one’s getting rich off this. I would assume any veteran player has at least 235m per account worth of stuff forgotten in asset safety or a hangar somewhere whereas a new player is going to feel ecstatic about this login campaign. ---
**Author:** ![Ynglaur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ynglaur/32/274877_2.png) [@Ynglaur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ynglaur)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-grand-heist-now-live/321516/76 "2021-07-27T17:17:24Z")
Eh, they already give skill points for Omega, which is economically far more dangerous. Skill points used to be (mostly) gated by time, but injectors allowed us to trade time for ISK, kind of. ISK already comes from thin-air in the form of missions, anomalies, etc. The real “moral peril” is providing liquidity to players who have low activity, but who knows: maybe it will incent more activity. ---
**Author:** ![Kyle\_Khamez](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kyle_khamez/32/242891_2.png) [@Kyle\_Khamez](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kyle_Khamez)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-grand-heist-now-live/321516/77 "2021-07-27T17:19:21Z")
Can we keep the market changes? Death to the TTT, make Jita great again. ---
**Author:** ![Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/circumstantial_evidence/32/399551_2.png) [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Circumstantial_Evidence)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-grand-heist-now-live/321516/78 "2021-07-27T17:54:32Z")
What if you’re not drawn in by the “heist,” but merely a lapsed player looking at re-subscribing via PLEX purchased… with ISK…? I suppose PLEX inflation should track with the login reward _ISK-printing_ inflation. But, on that balance: no particular advantage this week, to resub via PLEX purchased with ISK. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-grand-heist-now-live/321516/79 "2021-07-27T18:07:37Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > > [@Mike\_Azariah](#): > > > > Now we wait to see if CCP gets what **they** expect out of this. > > Care to indulge? No, that I cannot do, sorry. m ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-grand-heist-now-live/321516/80 "2021-07-27T18:24:57Z")
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