# The Great 2020 CODE Hunt ( 4B+ in Bounties Paid-out so far!)

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-great-2020-code-hunt-4b-in-bounties-paid-out-so-far/248949>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [June 14, 2020, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-great-2020-code-hunt-4b-in-bounties-paid-out-so-far/248949 "2020-06-14T12:38:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2020, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-great-2020-code-hunt-4b-in-bounties-paid-out-so-far/248949/184 "2020-06-21T23:37:44Z")

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> [@Quint\_s\_Shark\_Hunters](#):
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> Sorry mate but isn’t this exact same thing they say about CODE and their goal?

CODE has never back-tracked on anything they said.

AG has.

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**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-great-2020-code-hunt-4b-in-bounties-paid-out-so-far/248949/185 "2020-06-22T00:55:29Z")

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> [@Quint\_s\_Shark\_Hunters](#):
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> Sorry mate but isn’t this exact same thing they say about CODE and their goal?

CODE. love them or hate them have massively changed highsec and the way people play there. It’s not an exageration to say CODE. is one of the most successful and famous alliances/groups in the game.

Honestly, its a bit embarrassing to say antigankers are anywhere close to being as relevant as CODE. They’re just a bunch of plebs who follow highsecs top alpha dogs around, feebly trying to stop ganks, but failing nonstop

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**Author:** ![Quint\_s\_Shark\_Hunters](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quint_s_shark_hunters/32/242528_2.png) [@Quint\_s\_Shark\_Hunters](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quint_s_Shark_Hunters)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-great-2020-code-hunt-4b-in-bounties-paid-out-so-far/248949/186 "2020-06-22T01:17:01Z")

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Oh I agree and my point wasn’t to equate the two entities or their influence on HS. There are only a few names that are known by most players in EVE and James 315 is one of them.

My point was strictly that if you put-up CODE’s goal and AG’s goal, then look at their respective outcomes, both are failures to be honest. If CODE was a success, they would have put themselves out of business a long time ago but the opposite is true with more kills by agents being registered now than at anytime before. AG’s goal to stop gankers is, well, anemic to say the least; also a failure.

When looked at objectively, destroying ships is the means to an ends that neither side has come close to achieving.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-great-2020-code-hunt-4b-in-bounties-paid-out-so-far/248949/187 "2020-06-22T01:57:58Z")

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> [@Quint\_s\_Shark\_Hunters](#):
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> my point

Nobody cares about you.

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**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-great-2020-code-hunt-4b-in-bounties-paid-out-so-far/248949/188 "2020-06-22T02:07:46Z")

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> [@Quint\_s\_Shark\_Hunters](#):
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> My point was strictly that if you put-up CODE’s goal and AG’s goal, then look at their respective outcomes, both are failures to be honest. If CODE was a success, they would have put themselves out of business a long time ago

Thats not true, CODE. is easily one of the most successful entities in the game by almost any metric. It’s a video game, new players will come and go. There isnt a guide for CODE. as soon as you start the game and you can never make the entire populace always obey the law. It’s a continuing and never ending endeavor.

> [@Quint\_s\_Shark\_Hunters](#):
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> When looked at objectively, destroying ships is the means to an ends that neither side has come close to achieving.

> **[CODE. | Alliance](https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99002775/)**
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> CODE.: 398,662 ships destroyed and 154,606 ships lost.

Looking at it objectively CODE. is ranked 13 on isk destroyed, all the ranks surrounding us are giant nullblocs with tens of thousands more members. Our fame, effectiveness and change on the game is undeniable.

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**Author:** ![Quint\_s\_Shark\_Hunters](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quint_s_shark_hunters/32/242528_2.png) [@Quint\_s\_Shark\_Hunters](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quint_s_Shark_Hunters)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 3:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-great-2020-code-hunt-4b-in-bounties-paid-out-so-far/248949/189 "2020-06-22T03:15:21Z")

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Ok I’ll stop there as you are just fixating on ships exploding. Back you your regularly scheduled program.

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**Author:** ![Quint\_s\_Shark\_Hunters](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quint_s_shark_hunters/32/242528_2.png) [@Quint\_s\_Shark\_Hunters](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quint_s_Shark_Hunters)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 3:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-great-2020-code-hunt-4b-in-bounties-paid-out-so-far/248949/190 "2020-06-22T03:16:00Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> Nobody cares about you.

Thanks for caring enough to let me know. ❤

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**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 3:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-great-2020-code-hunt-4b-in-bounties-paid-out-so-far/248949/191 "2020-06-22T03:30:59Z")

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> [@Quint\_s\_Shark\_Hunters](#):
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> Ok I’ll stop there as you are just fixating on ships exploding. Back you your regularly scheduled program

Lmao

What a brainlet

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**Author:** ![Quint\_s\_Shark\_Hunters](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quint_s_shark_hunters/32/242528_2.png) [@Quint\_s\_Shark\_Hunters](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quint_s_Shark_Hunters)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-great-2020-code-hunt-4b-in-bounties-paid-out-so-far/248949/192 "2020-06-22T06:11:50Z")

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> **[Catalyst | IronRod Kami | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/85125910/)**
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> IronRod Kami (Big Willies PVP Madness) lost their Catalyst in Isanamo (Lonetrek). Final Blow by Signa1 (Subsidy H.R.S.) flying in a Gila. Total Value: 15,052,571.16 ISK

  

> **[Catalyst | Gankzter McGankFace | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/85125915/)**
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> Gankzter McGankFace (Big Willies PVP Madness) lost their Catalyst in Isanamo (Lonetrek). Final Blow by Signa1 (Subsidy H.R.S.) flying in a Gila. Total Value: 1,872,039.20 ISK

  
Bounty Paid: 8.4M

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**Author:** ![Sievert\_Solutions](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sievert_solutions/32/177494_2.png) [@Sievert\_Solutions](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sievert_Solutions)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-great-2020-code-hunt-4b-in-bounties-paid-out-so-far/248949/193 "2020-06-22T06:58:18Z")

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what you did is try to declare your alt the ‘new savior of highsec’ then spam our channels with crap for 2 days until you got banned, and podded a few random guys that arent even gankers. Idiot.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-great-2020-code-hunt-4b-in-bounties-paid-out-so-far/248949/194 "2020-06-22T07:04:45Z")

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> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> Calm down man, just because you lost doesnt mean you have to cry about it.

I have not lost at anything, show me a kill by a CODE guy on any of my characters, you can’t, simple as that.

You are the one who needs to calm down, exhibit A:

> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> OP: Your(AGs) job is to stop them  
> Me: I agree.  
> You: Its not AGs job to stop them  
> Me: Tell that to OP.  
> You: OP never said it was AGs job to stop them though.  
> Me: Lolwut
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> Come back down to reality. I gauruntee you will cry fewer tears of rage.

The OP is talking about his bounty competition, while you were talking about AG as a whole, which is why I told you that you were wrong, there is a difference but you are too up yourself to see it.

> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> Just to sit there and mildly annoy or harass gankers till they quit the game? Pretty toxic and pathetic 😅

Did you lose some loot recently to be so butt hurt? Calm down ganker. 😂

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**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-great-2020-code-hunt-4b-in-bounties-paid-out-so-far/248949/195 "2020-06-22T07:57:16Z")

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> [@Quint\_s\_Shark\_Hunters](#):
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> Ok I’ll stop there as you are just fixating on ships exploding.

But isn’t that the definition of Eve ??

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**Author:** ![Quint\_s\_Shark\_Hunters](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quint_s_shark_hunters/32/242528_2.png) [@Quint\_s\_Shark\_Hunters](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quint_s_Shark_Hunters)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-great-2020-code-hunt-4b-in-bounties-paid-out-so-far/248949/196 "2020-06-22T08:08:59Z")

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> [@Dravick\_Afterthought](#):
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> But isn’t that the definition of Eve ??

Yes, it is but the point wasn’t about what defines Eve but rather what defines CODE and the AG’ers; the _ends_ if you will, to wit I proposed that neither side was doing a very good job of achieving _it_.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-great-2020-code-hunt-4b-in-bounties-paid-out-so-far/248949/197 "2020-06-22T08:59:32Z")

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CODE.'s end result is teaching a lesson and having fun doing it.

I dunno what the other lot’s is.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-great-2020-code-hunt-4b-in-bounties-paid-out-so-far/248949/198 "2020-06-22T09:08:28Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> I dunno what the other lot’s is.

Loot denial for fun and to teach a lesson. Which can result in ships being blown up and fun had by all. I don’t know how you can miss this from what I have said multiple times 😛

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-great-2020-code-hunt-4b-in-bounties-paid-out-so-far/248949/199 "2020-06-22T09:32:41Z")

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I suppose I get the fun, I dont really see the lesson, sorry.

Dont suppose it needs to be more than fun so vOv

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**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-great-2020-code-hunt-4b-in-bounties-paid-out-so-far/248949/200 "2020-06-22T09:48:41Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> I suppose I get the fun, I dont really see the lesson, sorry.

The lesson is, you can’t gank easily in popular areas with only 2 chars/people. 😉

A lot of aspiring gankers give up after their first hauler loss. Some move elsewhere in the pipe, some just log/dock when I’m entering local nowadays. Some get a loot bunny or join a bigger group.

But indeed the lesson is counter-productive as it reduces the number of targets for killing haulers, stealing their loot. Every hauler ganker giving up on that is a loss. But people are always told ganking is too easy and doesn’t need a brain. 😉

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-great-2020-code-hunt-4b-in-bounties-paid-out-so-far/248949/201 "2020-06-22T09:53:36Z")

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Fair dos. I wasnt sure if you were in the AG group or not.

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**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-great-2020-code-hunt-4b-in-bounties-paid-out-so-far/248949/202 "2020-06-22T10:31:39Z")

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At least one ganker insulted me in local, that I‘m a filthy AG because he can’t gank while I‘m sitting on the gate as he is too afraid of losing the loot. So it looks like I help the AG course even without stopping ganks. 😛

So fun comes from low effort (stalking gankers can be done semi-AFK), and nice rewards (salt, kills, loot, chats in Russian with google translate, forum posts, …)

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-great-2020-code-hunt-4b-in-bounties-paid-out-so-far/248949/203 "2020-06-22T10:38:25Z")

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Well thats refreshing.

Should be a self sustaining ecosystem.

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