# The Hypocrisy Of The 'I Hate PvP' Miners **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 28, 2026, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-hypocrisy-of-the-i-hate-pvp-miners/515486 "2026-07-28T12:57:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2026, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-hypocrisy-of-the-i-hate-pvp-miners/515486/61 "2026-07-29T17:58:31Z")
Ok… 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Celltear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/celltear/32/381264_2.png) [@Celltear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Celltear)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2026, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-hypocrisy-of-the-i-hate-pvp-miners/515486/62 "2026-07-29T19:33:00Z")
I’ll just agree to disagree, I agree with your points, I would also just mine regardless. if it had 0 value, I would still mine, and build myself. Not to say some do not rely on it, EVE is complex, people do things for different reasons 🙂 Some can mine, to reprocess, to then do indie. And construct ships/equipment for themselves, so, not at all reliant on destruction. ---
**Author:** ![Celltear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/celltear/32/381264_2.png) [@Celltear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Celltear)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2026, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-hypocrisy-of-the-i-hate-pvp-miners/515486/63 "2026-07-29T19:52:08Z")
You can mine to build for yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2026, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-hypocrisy-of-the-i-hate-pvp-miners/515486/64 "2026-07-29T20:01:40Z")
I’d really rather watch my dog touch grass… ---
**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2026, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-hypocrisy-of-the-i-hate-pvp-miners/515486/65 "2026-07-29T20:06:14Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > No, because it makes no sense to do and we don’t have the slightest evidence in favour of your claims. It makes no sense to YOU…but 75%(aka the rest of the server) does not see it as a real problem… ---
**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2026, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-hypocrisy-of-the-i-hate-pvp-miners/515486/66 "2026-07-29T20:06:57Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > And what will _you_ do if the game you are crying about does not get the radical changes needed for it to fit your idea of fun? happy ragequit for you too… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2026, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-hypocrisy-of-the-i-hate-pvp-miners/515486/67 "2026-07-29T20:08:54Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > ’ Hey…why are you taking my chess pieces…I just want to chill out at a chess board’ > > ‘Hey, why are you arresting me for stopping and chilling out in the fast lane ?’ > > ‘Come into work ? Nah…I just want to chill at home’ > > ‘Oh look…here’s an excellent railway level crossing where I can just stop and chill’ This has nothing to do with what i said…it’s just ranting out stupid real life comparisms, some of them are even crimes…so how is that an argument against what i stated? You are fishing for straws to not drown in my river of facts if you get the picture…🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2026, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-hypocrisy-of-the-i-hate-pvp-miners/515486/68 "2026-07-29T20:11:15Z")
> [@Celltear](#): > > I’ll just agree to disagree, I agree with your points, I would also just mine regardless. if it had 0 value, I would still mine, and build myself. Not to say some do not rely on it, EVE is complex, people do things for different reasons 🙂 Some can mine, to reprocess, to then do indie. And construct ships/equipment for themselves, so, not at all reliant on destruction. People like him will NEVER get this…it is comepletely out of their world… ---
**Author:** ![Celltear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/celltear/32/381264_2.png) [@Celltear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Celltear)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2026, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-hypocrisy-of-the-i-hate-pvp-miners/515486/69 "2026-07-29T20:16:34Z")
hahaha, the activity itself is boring yes, but if you’re minign to build yourself a fancy ship, or with friends, it’s more a campfire like activity 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2026, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-hypocrisy-of-the-i-hate-pvp-miners/515486/70 "2026-07-29T20:17:39Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > ‘Come into work ? Nah…I just want to chill at home’ Only in the us this would you cost your job…in civilized countries in europe there are large barriers about firing someone… In Germany for example you get at least 4 weeks notice after 1/2 year in the company up to 9 MONTHS after 20 years…this is considered normal here…so no hire and fire on the spot…you actually have to do something really wrong for that even being considered and even in that cases you need at least one written warning by your employer or the court rejects it. Not to mention that you simply call in sick(unlimited sick days) and the employer still has to fully pay you for a maximum of six weeks if you send in a doctors notice …this is the law… ---
**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2026, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-hypocrisy-of-the-i-hate-pvp-miners/515486/71 "2026-07-29T20:27:10Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > Well, there was a time when the internet was still seen by us millennials as just a massively SOCIAL interaction first. > > It then became META and a personal space to live and cozy up in, permanently. > > As such, people like Uta are an example to this cushioned, safe, ideal and permanent meta-environment they aspire to live in. > > They take it « that » seriously… nothing of what you said is problematic…not even to the slightest… ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2026, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-hypocrisy-of-the-i-hate-pvp-miners/515486/72 "2026-07-29T20:52:00Z")
You don’t have an issue with billionaires using social media to condition you? Okay then…enjoy your facebook, I will continue to not use it. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2026, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-hypocrisy-of-the-i-hate-pvp-miners/515486/73 "2026-07-29T21:11:11Z")
> [@Uta\_Asmai](#): > > This has nothing to do with what i said You typed a load of nonsense. I responded accordingly. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2026, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-hypocrisy-of-the-i-hate-pvp-miners/515486/74 "2026-07-29T21:18:55Z")
> [@Celltear](#): > > You can mine to build for yourself. God no. I really don’t want to do anything that I’ll have to endure _again_ when I get to my life review at the big bright light at the end of the tunnel. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2026, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-hypocrisy-of-the-i-hate-pvp-miners/515486/75 "2026-07-29T22:45:42Z")
What miners seem to not understand is that ore prices are not seeded by FCCCP. The value of ore is set by the player base. No demand, no profit… ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2026, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-hypocrisy-of-the-i-hate-pvp-miners/515486/76 "2026-07-29T22:54:04Z")
I think most do realize ore is supply-driven, no? ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2026, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-hypocrisy-of-the-i-hate-pvp-miners/515486/77 "2026-07-29T23:25:12Z")
Is that not what I said? ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2026, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-hypocrisy-of-the-i-hate-pvp-miners/515486/78 "2026-07-30T00:17:47Z")
“What miners seem to not understand”… I’m saying that I think most do in fact understand. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2026, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-hypocrisy-of-the-i-hate-pvp-miners/515486/79 "2026-07-30T00:21:57Z")
Proof please? From what I read on the forums, they don’t. They seem to think that if there is no demand, they will still get paid for their ore? ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2026, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-hypocrisy-of-the-i-hate-pvp-miners/515486/80 "2026-07-30T00:26:37Z")
I’m unable to “prove” this - it’s just my take (emphasis on “I think”). I thought (again, “thinking”) it was a given that EVE’s economy is generally supply and demand driven. If most miners (or players) really are this dumb (or ignorant), I guess it could explain a lot… or nothing at all. Which is to say that I’m really starting to loathe mining now… I have to be careful, though - if I I get too jaded @Aiko_Danuja might ‘STFU and buy me a sandwich’ (pulling me over to the dark ganking side). Pretty sure she’d earn quite a bit of karma with BOB for converting a fat carebear like me… 🤣 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-hypocrisy-of-the-i-hate-pvp-miners/515486.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-hypocrisy-of-the-i-hate-pvp-miners/515486.md?page=5)