# The Illusion of Nullsec Dominance and the Disappointment of CCP's Updates: A Clash of Strategy and Fun **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 28, 2024, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-illusion-of-nullsec-dominance-and-the-disappointment-of-ccps-updates-a-clash-of-strategy-and-fun/462733 "2024-09-28T14:12:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Roy\_LuoB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/roy_luob/32/434903_2.png) [@Roy\_LuoB](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Roy_LuoB)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-illusion-of-nullsec-dominance-and-the-disappointment-of-ccps-updates-a-clash-of-strategy-and-fun/462733/1 "2024-09-28T14:12:25Z")
I always thought that the Nullsec Alliance, which controls dozens of constellations, several star regions, and thousands of people, would be iron-blooded, ruthless, and proud players. But the latest Skyhook update made me realize that the so-called Nullsec Alliance is just a group of cowards who just gather together for warmth. Besides, I always thought that the only purpose of all CCP patches was to see blood and fire, violence and destruction. So far, it’s very disappointing. To quote a sentence in the patch, “As a result, defenders will have better opportunities to plan their defenses, while raiders must operate within tighter, more strategic timeframes.” You mean, not only can defenders wait for the enemy to attack, but we, the players who want to have fun, have to take 10+ jumps and risk being wiped out, being gate camped, and we also have to attack at the time that is convenient for the defenders? It’s shameless. ---
**Author:** ![Distaine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/distaine/32/502653_2.png) [@Distaine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Distaine)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-illusion-of-nullsec-dominance-and-the-disappointment-of-ccps-updates-a-clash-of-strategy-and-fun/462733/2 "2024-09-30T06:17:26Z")
This forums is meant for fan-boys only… a small group that grows smaller by the day. Welcome to the list of banned and censored speakers. Your post and all you say will now be deleted or locked. The growing majority of players who speak against the dumpster-fire management known as CCP has come a long way and will continue to grow. At some point we will abandon “official forums”. Pvp is not the problem. Ganking is not the problem. Conflict and war is not the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-illusion-of-nullsec-dominance-and-the-disappointment-of-ccps-updates-a-clash-of-strategy-and-fun/462733/3 "2024-09-30T09:09:10Z")
> [@Roy\_LuoB](#): > > I always thought that the Nullsec Alliance, which controls dozens of constellations, several star regions, and thousands of people, would be iron-blooded, ruthless, and proud players. Some were, many got shafted by game mechanic changes. > [@Roy\_LuoB](#): > > But the latest Skyhook update made me realize that the so-called Nullsec Alliance is just a group of cowards who just gather together for warmth. Really? That one little structure was the catalyst for this conclusion? > [@Roy\_LuoB](#): > > Besides, I always thought that the only purpose of all CCP patches was to see blood and fire, violence and destruction. Patches are not the same as changes in game mechanics, though yeah, they used to be for sure. > [@Roy\_LuoB](#): > > So far, it’s very disappointing. That has been a theme for awhile, indeed. > [@Roy\_LuoB](#): > > To quote a sentence in the patch, “As a result, defenders will have better opportunities to plan their defenses, while raiders must operate within tighter, more strategic timeframes.” The EU-TZ and NA-TZ got annoyed that the CN-TZ was taking their lunch. Let that be a lesson for those who want to be rid of asset safety. > [@Roy\_LuoB](#): > > You mean, not only can defenders wait for the enemy to attack Well, the attackers can wait for the enemy to defend, right ? > [@Roy\_LuoB](#): > > You mean, not only can defenders wait for the enemy to attack, but we, the players who want to have fun, have to take 10+ jumps and risk being wiped out, Rubbish. The only way a group gets wiped out is if they have terrible scouting or decide to take a fight rather than nano kite away. > [@Roy\_LuoB](#): > > we also have to attack at the time that is convenient for the defenders? This is how citadels worked on release. At least Skyhook started off being vulnerable 24/7 before hand. If the problem of TZ tanking was easily solved it would have been done already. > [@Roy\_LuoB](#): > > It’s shameless. The EVE Frontiers section is elsewhere. > [@Distaine](#): > > The growing majority of players who speak against the dumpster-fire management known as CCP has come a long way and will continue to grow. At some point we will abandon “official forums”. People already did long ago when engagement moved to the cesspit that is reddit. > [@Distaine](#): > > Ganking is not the problem. Well, its not ‘the’ problem, but its an aspect of the game that needs work > [@Distaine](#): > > Conflict and war is not the problem. Well, yes it is, everyone is friends with everyone else in much of the space, with the larger groups living almost diametrically opposite sides of the map. If ‘scarcity’ era of the game was implemented in a way that truly hurt ( rather than just annoy people ) to the point of blue doughnut cannibalism, the resulting conflict might have had some effect on the status quo. With IHUB 2.0, where the indication is that groups are to build vertically as opposed to horizontally, it must be admitted that ‘scarcity’ as a driver is counter intuitive. > [@Distaine](#): > > Pvp is not the problem. PvP is not a problem, but there are some PvP mechanics ( ESS, filaments ) that certainly could do with improvements. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-illusion-of-nullsec-dominance-and-the-disappointment-of-ccps-updates-a-clash-of-strategy-and-fun/462733/4 "2024-09-30T11:27:34Z")
The Nullsec Alliance is TRASH and full of NOOBS! ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-illusion-of-nullsec-dominance-and-the-disappointment-of-ccps-updates-a-clash-of-strategy-and-fun/462733/5 "2024-09-30T12:01:08Z")
> [@Roy\_LuoB](#): > > But the latest Skyhook update made me realize that the so-called Nullsec Alliance is just a group of cowards who just gather together for warmth. Not that I’m a big fan of Nullsec or anything, but stats show that that’s where the most destruction and the largest wars and battles all occur. So they can’t _all_ be cowardly. > [@Roy\_LuoB](#): > > Besides, I always thought that the only purpose of all CCP patches was to see blood and fire, violence and destruction. Well, CCP patches are actually intended to get players to play longer and pay more. All motivational blurbs and blogs and videos are just the propaganda of the month. > [@Roy\_LuoB](#): > > but we, the players who want to have fun I note that posts often seem to take the attitude of “when CCP delivers what _I_ want, that’s all just fun and a good approach. When it delivers what _other_ people want, that’s a conspiracy of cowards and coalitions to wreck the game!”. A Skyhook is a major investment. Raiding a skyhook is the investment of a handful of ships. The Equinox update was not well received - it was obvious from the getgo that CCP would need to adjust things to make it more affordable and acceptable to the Null sov holders. When CCP puts in something that looks a bit too suspiciously easy to raid and ‘fun’ for you, you can be sure it’s un-fun for someone else. Expect things to get adjusted on the side of the folks who pay more subs. That’s just business. And CCP’s more than happy to give you the business. ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_LuoB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/roy_luob/32/434903_2.png) [@Roy\_LuoB](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Roy_LuoB)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-illusion-of-nullsec-dominance-and-the-disappointment-of-ccps-updates-a-clash-of-strategy-and-fun/462733/6 "2024-10-02T14:00:08Z")
Anyone has the right to say this, except you highsec gankers. Find some real opponents in wh or lowsec, stop hararssing new players. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-illusion-of-nullsec-dominance-and-the-disappointment-of-ccps-updates-a-clash-of-strategy-and-fun/462733/7 "2024-10-02T17:46:32Z")
Stop whining. ---
**Author:** ![Barota\_Gogiko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/barota_gogiko/32/425501_2.png) [@Barota\_Gogiko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Barota_Gogiko)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-illusion-of-nullsec-dominance-and-the-disappointment-of-ccps-updates-a-clash-of-strategy-and-fun/462733/8 "2024-10-02T17:51:19Z")
HS has a new Warden. ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_LuoB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/roy_luob/32/434903_2.png) [@Roy\_LuoB](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Roy_LuoB)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-illusion-of-nullsec-dominance-and-the-disappointment-of-ccps-updates-a-clash-of-strategy-and-fun/462733/9 "2024-10-03T00:06:59Z")
well, your kind is the reason why eve is so special. Not all MMO have a group of people who enjoy humiliating others. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-illusion-of-nullsec-dominance-and-the-disappointment-of-ccps-updates-a-clash-of-strategy-and-fun/462733/10 "2024-10-03T11:11:05Z")
Nullsec is important because they like to visit Highsec from time to time “to relax”. ---
**Author:** ![Ogun\_Ferraille](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ogun_ferraille/32/467938_2.png) [@Ogun\_Ferraille](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ogun_Ferraille)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-illusion-of-nullsec-dominance-and-the-disappointment-of-ccps-updates-a-clash-of-strategy-and-fun/462733/11 "2024-10-03T19:30:54Z")
> [@Roy\_LuoB](#): > > well, your kind is the reason why eve is so special. > Not all MMO have a group of people who enjoy humiliating others. there are many people here who are always ready to humiliate those who may be hurt. The same people are always ready to sing praises for those who can no longer care for praise and jokes. is typical of puritan culture. You know what Col. Kurtz said about what bomber pilots wanted to write on their planes? Too many fake good and too many fake bad. I have been the only real bad girl and I’ll be scolded for this off topic too 😇 luckly it’s just a game! enjoy the space and have fun!!! !!! !!! pew pew ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-illusion-of-nullsec-dominance-and-the-disappointment-of-ccps-updates-a-clash-of-strategy-and-fun/462733/12 "2024-10-03T19:34:21Z")
> [@Ogun\_Ferraille](#): > > have fun One person’s fun is another person’s griefing. 👀 🤔 😈 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![Distaine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/distaine/32/502653_2.png) [@Distaine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Distaine)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 1:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-illusion-of-nullsec-dominance-and-the-disappointment-of-ccps-updates-a-clash-of-strategy-and-fun/462733/13 "2024-10-04T01:19:24Z")
You know the saddest part about all these carebears trying to end gankers… Ganking is the only form of pvp left in highsec that they have not already ruined for all. Carebears are CANCER. Game killing cancer. They wont be happy unitl its just them in a small group playing alone while farming useless items for a private collection. Im not a young man and ive watched this cancer kill every single great game Ive ever played systematically and with no other outcome. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Fuchs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_fuchs/32/504955_2.png) [@James\_Fuchs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Fuchs)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-illusion-of-nullsec-dominance-and-the-disappointment-of-ccps-updates-a-clash-of-strategy-and-fun/462733/14 "2024-10-04T07:17:51Z")
On one hand, you complain that you are not allowed to pop someone else’s 1 billion ISK structure whenever and wherever you want. Then you complain about hisec gankers popping targets whenever and wherever they want. Sounds to me like somebody doesn’t like the taste of his own medicine! With healing regards -James Fuchs ---
**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/515826_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-illusion-of-nullsec-dominance-and-the-disappointment-of-ccps-updates-a-clash-of-strategy-and-fun/462733/15 "2024-10-05T06:11:09Z")
The regional market is a PvP ground too. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2025, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-illusion-of-nullsec-dominance-and-the-disappointment-of-ccps-updates-a-clash-of-strategy-and-fun/462733/16 "2025-01-03T06:11:51Z")
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