# The Liberation of Floseswin

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-liberation-of-floseswin/307426>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Tags:** faction-war, low-sec, pvp\
**Created:** [April 23, 2021, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-liberation-of-floseswin/307426 "2021-04-23T18:30:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Harkon\_Thorson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harkon_thorson/32/320172_2.png) [@Harkon\_Thorson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harkon_Thorson)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-liberation-of-floseswin/307426/1 "2021-04-23T18:30:42Z")

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Greetings Brothers and Sisters as well as foreigners and enemies,

little over a day ago the system of Floseswin has been liberated by the forces of the Minmatar Militia. In a suprise attack on the system that lasted for little over 2 days and after only brief but heavy fights the combined forces of multiple militia groups assisted by Matari loyalists and Galente allies were victorious.

Soon affter the republic fleet took control over the system Ushra’Khan started to deploy troops and equipment as well as supplies to the planet of Floseswin IV further bolstering the defences there.

This operation was not aimed at a longer occupation and we will most likely not mount the same kind of defensive campagne we did last year. We instead aimed at disrubting the preperations for an invasion and to allow reinforcements to arrive.  
Our hopes are that the Republic will use the time we once again bought them with our blood to set up a propper defense.  
Besides our efforts to liberate the system and help to defnd its planets we want to remind our people and the slavers that we will retaliate any agression against the Matari.

We thank all our allies for their contribution.

May the Spirits of Matar and Pator guide those worthy.  
We come for our people!

Chief Harkon Thorson

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**Author:** ![Tristan\_daCuhna](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tristan_dacuhna/32/407882_2.png) [@Tristan\_daCuhna](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tristan_daCuhna)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-liberation-of-floseswin/307426/2 "2021-04-26T14:44:57Z")

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Greetings Step Brothers and Step Sisters as well as anyone else who may be stuck in a dryer,

today the system of Floseswin has been liberated by the forces of the Amarr Militia. In an obvious attack on the system that lasted for little over 2 days and after occasional fights and watching B-Holomovies on Galnet, the combined force of a few LP enthusiasts were victorious.

Soon after the empire fleet took control over the system Local Is Primary started to deploy social media influencers, equipment and supplies to the planet of Floseswin IV further bolstering SRP revenue from product placement and ad revenue.

This operation was not aimed at a longer occupation and we will most likely not mount the same kind of defensive campagn we did last year. We instead aimed at disrubting the goods of our sponsors (Quafe) to increase our SRP fund.

Our hopes are that the Empire will use the time we once again bought them with our bordom and livers to win over the hearts and minds of the population.

Besides our efforts to liberate the system and help to defend its planets we want to remind our people to buy Quafe and follow us on OnlyFCs.

We thank all our allies for their contribution.

May the Empress guide those who are worthy.

We come for our beer!

CTRLV Head of Corporate Relations - Tristan daCuhna

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**Author:** ![Ohpehk\_Doshu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ohpehk_doshu/32/291684_2.png) [@Ohpehk\_Doshu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ohpehk_Doshu)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-liberation-of-floseswin/307426/3 "2021-04-26T16:47:14Z")

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Good guys win again.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-liberation-of-floseswin/307426/4 "2021-04-26T21:18:19Z")

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> [@Tristan\_daCuhna](#):
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> Our hopes are that the Empire will use the time we once again bought them with our bordom and livers to win over the hearts and minds of the population.

Yeah, I’m sure launching anti-matter munitions at civilian population centers has really endeared them to the locals.

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**Author:** ![Mikal\_Vektor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mikal_vektor/32/267041_2.png) [@Mikal\_Vektor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mikal_Vektor)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-liberation-of-floseswin/307426/5 "2021-04-26T21:46:51Z")

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I mean, there are actual people living on Flos. The humans living on bosboger aren’t “people” in the same sense. They’re not citizens. They’re feral property.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-liberation-of-floseswin/307426/6 "2021-04-26T23:39:45Z")

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Yeah, and Flos is where the Amarr used submarine-launched anti-matter munitions on the civilian populace.

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**Author:** ![Saronu\_Yassavi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saronu_yassavi/32/386208_2.png) [@Saronu\_Yassavi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saronu_Yassavi)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-liberation-of-floseswin/307426/7 "2021-04-27T09:27:56Z")

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Would that be more or less collateral damage in your estimation than one could expect from Skalmöld-variant planetary assault dreadnoughts firing on Port Kul? War is messy.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-liberation-of-floseswin/307426/8 "2021-04-27T12:42:45Z")

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I’m not the one saying ‘we will win over hearts and minds’.

So really, it’s kind of moot, ain’t it?

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**Author:** ![Saronu\_Yassavi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saronu_yassavi/32/386208_2.png) [@Saronu\_Yassavi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saronu_Yassavi)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-liberation-of-floseswin/307426/9 "2021-04-27T13:13:05Z")

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If you are going to take it at face value do not let me stop you, you may want to lodge a complaint with Quafe for their sponsorship of drunken crusaders.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-liberation-of-floseswin/307426/10 "2021-04-27T13:33:24Z")

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I doubt they’ll pay more attention to that than they have to complaints about the taste of Quafe.

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**Author:** ![Saronu\_Yassavi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saronu_yassavi/32/386208_2.png) [@Saronu\_Yassavi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saronu_Yassavi)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-liberation-of-floseswin/307426/11 "2021-04-27T13:34:59Z")

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So you have either a palate or a sense of humour… good to know.

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**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-liberation-of-floseswin/307426/12 "2021-04-27T15:50:53Z")

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A sense of humour then, as we know she lacks taste.

I must commend Ushra’khan and especially Thorson for their little maneuver; even I must admit their sensing of an opening to exploit served them well. Weaknesses within the Crusade were exposed and may now be corrected, at the expense of a hasty re-supply and potential reinforcement of a besieged planet. Whether it was a minor or major cost is yet to be seen.

As for the oft-repeated assertion that Ushra’khan is a terrorist organisation foremost rather than a guardian of its so-called kin, I am glad to see a more defensive stance being exhibited by the Bloody Fist of late. Guerilla warfare on their own backwaters seems to suit them far better than occupying Amarr systems such as Kamela or Arzad.

Enjoy the taste of your stolen victory for now, for I assure you I will continue to ensure it will be brief and turn bitter soon enough.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-liberation-of-floseswin/307426/13 "2021-04-27T16:05:37Z")

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> [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](#):
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> A sense of humour then, as we know she lacks taste.

I see we’ve flushed out the Quafe fan!

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**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-liberation-of-floseswin/307426/14 "2021-04-27T16:29:09Z")

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Flushing Quafe away at least spares your kidneys the ordeal of being the middleman.

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**Author:** ![Saronu\_Yassavi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saronu_yassavi/32/386208_2.png) [@Saronu\_Yassavi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saronu_Yassavi)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-liberation-of-floseswin/307426/15 "2021-04-27T16:29:35Z")

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> [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](#):
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> oft-repeated assertion that Ushra’khan is a terrorist organisation

Generally I think we call these facts, Lord Newelle.

My gratitude for the intervention, no doubt I have shamed my erstwhile tutors.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-liberation-of-floseswin/307426/16 "2021-04-27T16:36:58Z")

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> [@Saronu\_Yassavi](#):
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> Generally I think we call these facts Lord Newelle.

Why would you ever call facts “Lord Newelle”?

COMMAS, PEOPLE. Sheesh!

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**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-liberation-of-floseswin/307426/17 "2021-04-27T16:39:49Z")

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Yes, hello, I am a fact.

See Arrendis? All jokes, no taste!

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-liberation-of-floseswin/307426/19 "2021-04-29T03:23:19Z")

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> [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](#):
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> Yes, hello, I am a fact.

You really seem more like an _opinion_ to me. Maybe even fake news.

> [@Amicia\_Cora](#):
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> I’ve often felt that somebody opting to poke fun at an obvious typing mistake or grammatical error, rather than engaging with the actual message the person they’re replying to was trying to convey

Or, you know, making a joke directed at someone they’ve known for many years. Especially since U’K-as-terrorist-organization is kind of… you know… _duh_? One side’s terrorism is the other side’s ‘good start’.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-liberation-of-floseswin/307426/21 "2021-04-29T12:51:09Z")

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Oh, I’m not making light of accusations of terrorism. I’m making light of accusations of _not_ being terrorists. Just as I’d find utterly laughable any attempt to claim House Sarum, or indeed, the entire Empire, aren’t themselves terrorists on a much, much larger scale.

Threat of violence against non-combatants in order to advance a socio-political agenda through fear.

Whole worlds full of slaves, living under threat of violence to themselves and their children, unless they toe the line, submit, and go meekly into the grist mills that reduce them, over a lifetime, to so much more fodder.

The bombardment of the slave residential sectors of Kahah III and IV, cheered on by the Empire and actively supported by Empire loyalists in this thread, was not so long ago.

And of course, this thread itself. House Sarum’s attack on Floseswin IV continues, a military assault on civilian populations well _before_ the Amarr grew desperate enough to start lobbing anti-matter weapons of mass destruction at _civilians_. And why? Because Lord Sarum’s peepee was shriveled when he learned that AmarrMil eggers in _his_ military circuit were making deals with the enemy. So… atrocities, to alter behavior. Terrorism.

So sure. I’ll forgive your lack of appreciation for the gallows humor of those who know that accusations or denials of terrorism by a few dozen capsuleers isn’t even a drop in the bucket of horrors and heinous acts to be laid at the feet of the Amarr. Just don’t expect the _Empire_ to forgive you, if you dare object to whatever form their _next_ assault on the innocent takes.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-liberation-of-floseswin/307426/23 "2021-04-29T13:32:12Z")

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> [@Amicia\_Cora](#):
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> It would not be my place to object to the will of God or the Empire, nor shall I speak above my station when it comes to matters of Imperial security or the policies of an esteemed Heir.

Ah, there it is. Already, you know you don’t _dare_. It’s not your place. You mustn’t _use_ that capacity to judge right and wrong that you believe your god gave you. No no, _using_ his gifts would be _wrong_. It says so, right there in the scriptures that get rammed down your throat by the people in power. The scriptures that just _happen_ to say that the people in power should _keep_ all the power.

As for the accusations… I’m not sidestepping them at all. U’K _are_ terrorists. I don’t see how acknowledging that is ‘sidestepping’ anything. That doesn’t mean I’m sympathetic toward terrorism. But sometimes, I’m sympathetic to those on whose behalf the terrorists act.

Just not when those people are powerful interests with their own armies of terror.

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