# The like and get likes thread II **URL:** \ **Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\ **Created:** [April 17, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342 "2018-04-17T20:06:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 216
**Author:** ![RA1N\_D33R](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ra1n_d33r/32/204950_2.png) [@RA1N\_D33R](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RA1N_D33R)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/4332 "2018-10-27T22:54:30Z")
Haha 4301 Replies. Good Job. ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/4333 "2018-10-28T09:07:41Z")
Good morning LAGLers! Last night we switched to Winter time so I’ve been in bed for an hour longer… as usual feels a bit weird that it’s just 10 AM but i’ll get used very quick. Specially being in my holidays… ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/4334 "2018-10-28T10:07:22Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/d/3dcfb7246a02b8a2a2c0c71d4b1c338bb1405418.jpeg) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/5/05ae51fe2f7aaf46bd7aa2fba2aae1c95cf55f2c.jpeg) Timezone everyone 😘 ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/4335 "2018-10-28T12:40:43Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/7/d7375f42303056c586ad7cca3f7f448fa41925fc.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Snowlight\_Campbell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowlight_campbell/32/114531_2.png) [@Snowlight\_Campbell](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowlight_Campbell)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/4336 "2018-10-28T13:05:28Z")
![d365e1ca251a71697b3d6c62dd83b1c1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/a/3ad7ae661faf16a3432aa4183ff34fe377f4dd91.jpeg) good job ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/4337 "2018-10-28T13:07:38Z")
these look strangely familiar 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![lilsteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lilsteel/32/272085_2.png) [@lilsteel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lilsteel)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/4338 "2018-10-28T13:23:41Z")
[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/9/a/d9a5db580336c8c04c5710a8523316640215cc42.jpeg "Pourquoi google traduction est-il aussi nul? - MLTP#12") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtuWqenRnlQ) - > [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > these look strangely familiar 🤔 No, but even the theft methods are exactly the same as the other scams on other companies. Could it be that we found a reseller (Add to dictionary) which infiltrated CCP before it was sold? https://www.youtube.com/embed/fDiqVB2P5oo?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/1/2/f12b1243dc7b29c7e23e070c992f0ca44fa3cef1.jpeg "Les langues juives [complet] - Ma Langue dans Ta Poche #6") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOgFOLllX5o) ---
**Author:** ![LordOdysseus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lordodysseus/32/422627_2.png) [@LordOdysseus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LordOdysseus)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/4339 "2018-10-28T13:37:19Z")
I believe justice is going to be served IRL. The dawn is coming. ---
**Author:** ![lilsteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lilsteel/32/272085_2.png) [@lilsteel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lilsteel)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/4340 "2018-10-28T13:41:43Z")
Looks like there is a potential for one of those interstellar phenomenon to have hit us, otherwise, it’s more local and internal (only). ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/4341 "2018-10-28T13:44:56Z")
Heh, its actually russian choir singing polish song about miners. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/4343 "2018-10-28T16:28:03Z")
That is like wikipedia right here. 🤯 ---
**Author:** ![lilsteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lilsteel/32/272085_2.png) [@lilsteel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lilsteel)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/4344 "2018-10-28T16:39:36Z")
It’s from the Tannhäuser from Wagner, and Leitmotiv, and the Tannhäuser gate in Blade Runner… It also explains older information system designs before the - What are the 5 types of computers? There are five main ones: **supercomputers** , **mainframe computers** , **minicomputers** , **microcomputers** , and finally **mobile computers**.May 12, 2014 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/4/142645ae8f22f9daefba7b0f1f9f0407823f4fd7.jpeg) A [NASA](https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA) supercomputer. Computers like these are often used to run the most complicated computer models > **[Computer model](https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_model)** > > A computer-based model is a computer program that is designed to simulate what might or what did happen in a situation. They are used in many ways including in astronomy, economics and sciences such as physics and biology. Computer models are used in fields such as earthquake performance simulation and making models of buildings. > Well known areas which use computer models: > Computer modelling often uses numerical analysis to approximate the real solution of the problem. Simulation techniques are... - [https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~fgandon/lecture/uk1999/computers\_types/](https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~fgandon/lecture/uk1999/computers_types/) - So , the > **[Von Neumann architecture](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Neumann_architecture)** > > The von Neumann architecture—also known as the von Neumann model or Princeton architecture—is a computer architecture based on a 1945 description by the mathematician and physicist John von Neumann and others in the First Draft of a Report on the EDVAC. That document describes a design architecture for an electronic digital computer with these components: > The word has evolved to mean any stored-program computer in which an instruction fetch and a data operation cannot occur at the same time be... ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/e/de2c8ac825edc76354ac9360480c90d6c31c4e59.png) compared to the info from the , and derived from the Tannhäuser from Wagner, from a Leitmotiv, and the Tannhäuser gate referred to and referenced from in Blade Runner… That model being The **Organum Mathematicum** invented by the Jesuit polymath and scholar [Athanasius Kircher](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasius_Kircher) in the middle of the 17th century. > **[A Brief History of the Web: From 17th Century Computers to Today's Digital...](https://interestingengineering.com/a-brief-history-of-the-web-from-17th-century-computers-to-todays-digital-empires)** > > The internet has shaped the modern world as we know it. Take a look at the 400 years of research and innovation that led to the World Wide Web. [https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/history-of-computers,4518-3.html](https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/history-of-computers,4518-3.html) > **[Mechanical calculator](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_calculator)** > > A mechanical calculator, or calculating machine, is a mechanical device used to perform automatically the basic operations of arithmetic. Most mechanical calculators were comparable in size to small desktop computers and have been rendered obsolete by the advent of the electronic calculator. > Surviving notes from Wilhelm Schickard in 1623 reveal that he designed and had built the earliest of the modern attempts at mechanizing calculation. His machine was composed of two sets of technologies: firs... It’s also easy to do work to get married and have all those moments lost in time, like if it would be rendered to be in vain, or uselessly impeded, by trying to make facts seem better than they are. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/4345 "2018-10-28T17:00:35Z")
I am thinking, what is the meaning of harm for machine, if it can be rebuild, could that be loss of data? But what about other degrees of it? Without artificial intelligence knowing what human existence is and how power can be used to change it… but then again, who stops ai from doing what it wants, having free will of sorts. Logical thinking doesnt have to be actually prosocial. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![lilsteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lilsteel/32/272085_2.png) [@lilsteel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lilsteel)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/4346 "2018-10-28T17:02:14Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > I am thinking, what is the meaning of harm for machine, if it can be rebuild, could that be loss of data? But what about other degrees of it? Without artificial intelligence knowing what human existence is and how power can be used to change it… but then again, who stops ai from doing what it wants, having free will of sorts. Logical thinking doesnt have to be actually prosocial. 🤔 Meaning of harm for machine? What do you mean by meaning of harm? Also, machine interpreter are not designed for meaning, but rather with physiological and physical reaction only functioning by logic. It can also detects malfunction and report it, and it can design systems to repair it. - Who stops AI from doing what it wants, having free will of sorts. It doesn’t. The army stops it and made it. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/e/5/2e51599e8821c24e7e0e72eb764443343a444800.jpeg "Predators, Engineers & Aliens - COMPLETE Timeline") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fb2y2Q2m6k&t=6m42s) 2019 It may come as a surprise for some people but, Blade Runner franchise is officially in the Alien cannon - Q.But what about other degrees of it? It can be built into database, and medical database use degrees and levels. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/4347 "2018-10-28T17:06:50Z")
> [@lilsteel](#): > > What do you mean by meaning of harm? Meaning is like a definition, data describing state and properties and connections. Thought, idea, its “intertwined” as charge into our “hardware” neurons. Harm is what makes you lose a bit of something you care about. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/4348 "2018-10-28T17:08:17Z")
> [@lilsteel](#): > > Who stops AI from doing what it wants, having free will of sorts. > It doesn’t. > The army stops it and made it. What when AI is army? When its more powerful than army? ---
**Author:** ![lilsteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lilsteel/32/272085_2.png) [@lilsteel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lilsteel)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/4349 "2018-10-28T17:09:58Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > Meaning is like a definition, data describing state and properties and connections. Thought, idea, its “intertwined” as charge into our “hardware” neurons. > > Harm is what makes you lose a bit of something you care about. You would need more details and a higher level of accuracy to make it work more, but , even though that maybe is not the best start, it is still feasible, despite political consequences. Don’t get me wrong, the army is responsible for caring for global security, and if and when machine fails, have to “fix” it for our own good. Not surprising when weapons are made with AI. Not everyone is allowed to use those, and most can be liable if using it as a weapon without authorization. - For instance: in "Meaning is like a definition, " meaning is an interpretation of facts, truth, impressions, beliefs, hopes, thoughts, etc. Meaning is what a judge does when he interprets a case, even if he wrong. They have power to incarcerate and hold people culpable of things they don’t do, until they can fix it, and sometimes, even though they can’t fix it before they die. So, meaning alone won’t suffice, and it is not meant to be (ironically enough, the word meant in meant to be also is used as a meaning), and there are other factors more efficient for science to function better. Computer use interpreters to interpret code. There is another type of of language than interpreter. Beliefs alone also won’t suffice, since false or right beliefs won’t solve problems. It’s merely related to the degree of exactitude with true facts and as such, the level of contact with reality, as to compared to , a loss of contact with reality, caused by propaganda or other. Additionally, “data describing state and properties and connections.” definition is more like a description of facts or dreams, and can be used to copyright systems, and information systems, which otherwise are not protected by copyright, since ideas are not protected by copyrights. That includes, fixed copyright, created at the time of creation , and registered copyright, as this type of ideas are not protected by copyright scope of law as ideas. Patents are protected by scientific communities, whereas copyright do not require this scientific community protection, and also includes legal communities and association protection instead. Connections is used for networking and association. _" Thought, idea, its “intertwined” as charge into our “hardware” neurons."_ Neurons are not like hardware, although they are physiological organs. _Harm is what makes you lose a bit of something you care about._ If the courts seek to forfeit my work, which, even though it’s good, they don’t care, and try to get away with use of law to harm my good work, then the harm is not legal, even though it is done by law and legal entity. The law is wrong, and the legal entity is wrong too. Of course, the work , to be good in this case, needs to be more morally ethical than the legal entity which seeks the forfeiture, but that is besides the point. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/4350 "2018-10-28T17:16:43Z")
🤔 ---
**Author:** ![lilsteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lilsteel/32/272085_2.png) [@lilsteel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lilsteel)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/4351 "2018-10-28T17:22:08Z")
It doesn’t justify trying to create laws to forfeit good work, and use the discrediting to credit themselves with it. That makes their money fraudulent and useless to accept, like terrorism. Of course, they feel threatened when there is no threat, and they justify it by monopolizing security services to people they are obligated to protect. However, they do a great disservice to society by interfering against the benefit which would be brought to them, if they didn’t try to get credit for creating false threats. At the same time, real threats go not being dealt with, and the damage to society occurs from the omission. You can lose a soldier, 2 soldiers, a squad, a platoon, a regiment, an army, a battle, a war, all those are harm. - > [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > What when AI is army? When its more powerful than army? AI is not an army, AI was created from armies. God is more powerful than army / ies, and allies, who are victor. Do anyone try to defeat them? yes. For instance, man goes back to dust, and the earth and dust on earth will go to the Sun. To survive, we have to go elsewhere, and towards Mars and beyond. Venus will be burnt up before we are, and even though it’s easier to go there now than on Mars, it won’t be that way forever. It will be that way for over 10 generations however. It doesn’t mean we can’t do nothing on Mars, or build AI there. Of course we have to prevent it from getting out of control, or we’d have to ironically fight war against Mars AI, as in , Mars, the God of war. Also, don’t count on your chance to steal top secret data from the Pentagon, first it would not be legal, second, you might die. - I didn’t watch the whole 49 minutes video yet, but there is a lot of propaganda in it, as do most businesses. - Not surprisingly , they also compete against me, and I get paid $0, and I move to Europe to protect my work, which AI, they use to bring me to courts, and threaten me with jail to compete. It wouldn’t matter how much I invest, it would not work if I didn’t use an agent to do it there. Even my sister who is a license physician since 1992 or 1990 knows and is more than witness. They do get paid over 1 million over 20 years, and over 4 million, and don’t care. They don’t mention much about conflicts in it, or why it would be obligatory or created from them and how. It’s definitely a psychological aspect of that education market. That video was linked here before as well, if I didn’t link it. I also have to get another citizenship to get married overseas. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/4353 "2018-10-28T17:48:53Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > I am thinking, what is the meaning of harm for machine, if it can be rebuild, could that be loss of data? If we didn’t have pain then some people would put their hand into fire and watch it burn. Pain is what protects us, even from ourselves. For a machine would pain have to be implemented as a sensory system, which can intercept normal operations to protect the machine from damage. Adrenaline can make us feel less pain. For a machine would adrenaline have to be implemented as a control system, which allows for it to regulate the pain threshold. Now, you talk about rebuilding, but we do actually heal and our body can rebuild itself for small injuries. For larger injuries do we help each other, i.e. through surgery. A machine can then not trust always to get rebuild. When a machine fails too often then its owner may decide to throw it away. A machine would therefore be better off to mimic pain and to avoid damage before it can occur. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342.md?page=215) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342.md?page=217)