# The like and get likes thread II **URL:** \ **Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\ **Created:** [April 17, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342 "2018-04-17T20:06:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 421
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/8463 "2020-03-23T14:31:26Z")
I dont have coronavirus I think, so its good. No fever and no coughing. šŸ™‚ Good time to stay at home and play some games. Eating healthy things. Making best of the time. Only Hikikomori are truly safe from pandemic, who would think. šŸ˜œ ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/e/2/e2de08d71effe3c6051b48562f77dbfd4b252256.gif) ---
**Author:** ![lilsteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lilsteel/32/272085_2.png) [@lilsteel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lilsteel)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/8464 "2020-03-23T14:50:24Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > I dont have coronavirus I think, so its good. No fever and no coughing. šŸ™‚ > > Good time to stay at home and play some games. Eating healthy things. Making best of the time. Only Hikikomori are truly safe from pandemic, who would think. šŸ˜œ Itā€™s hard to tell without testing. The problem with it may occur around itā€™s 10th day, until when, it acts like some kind of bomb build-up, until it is ready to try to attack the immune system. One problem is, if you have light symptoms which may or may not be due to it, depending on your conditions, you canā€™t know if you did have it, like, from today, up to the 5th of March, 2020, which would be 18 days later, 4 days longer than average, or, 1 day short of the longest recorded case. There may be lung problems, liver problems, or any other health problems which may need further diagnosis and testng to verify. If those light symptoms were not due to it, the quarantine may have helped you to avoid it, or, if you did have it, avoid to spread it to others. However, if you did not have it, you are still susceptible to contract it later. Like, the Wuhan conditions where the spread is stopped. Those who did not get it can still contract it, over there. I asked an Epidemiologist with a Masters Degree in Epidemiology, if the virus could be contracted more than once, and they didnā€™t reply, one even interferred the communication, scared to answer, and refusing to say whether they knew or not. Also, is there no risk to spread if those healed , who may still carry it, or at least, who still have traces of itā€™s effect, can no longer infect others ?. Or, can those who were infected and that the effect in them stopped, still transmit it onto others by contagion ? Those steps are also important towards better control of the spread, and , eventually , to heal it, because of how it functions, and, spread. It may of course mutate faster than we can learn, when computers would need to be used to find solutions to it, so we may survive, or, have a better chance to do so. Also, the more people we are doesnā€™t mean that we cannot learn faster than if we were only 2 people, or, 2 groups. It doesnā€™t mean that we canā€™t get more problems, but, we should be able to solve more problems. ---
**Author:** ![Ian\_Morbius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ian_morbius/32/476592_2.png) [@Ian\_Morbius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ian_Morbius)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/8465 "2020-03-23T19:23:56Z")
> **[Last Oasis has EVE Online-inspired trading ā€“ but the dev wants it to be ā€œmore...](https://www.pcgamesn.com/last-oasis/trading-eve-online)** > > "we don't really want this spreadsheets in space situation" [Could The Pearl Abyss Corp. (KOSDAQ:263750) Ownership Structure Tell Us Something Useful?](https://simplywall.st/stocks/kr/media/kosdaq-a263750/pearl-abyss-shares/news/could-the-pearl-abyss-corp-kosdaq263750-ownership-structure-tell-us-something-useful/) ---
**Author:** ![lilsteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lilsteel/32/272085_2.png) [@lilsteel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lilsteel)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 1:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/8466 "2020-03-24T01:45:45Z")
[https://www.howtogeek.com/356816/how-to-rotate-your-pcs-screen-or-fix-a-sideways-screen/](https://www.howtogeek.com/356816/how-to-rotate-your-pcs-screen-or-fix-a-sideways-screen/) This is not a virus. How can you fix this? Did you try turning off your computer? And turn it back on again? Did it show: ā€œPrepare to update Windows Settingsā€? Did you find your computer still sideways when it restarted? ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/3/43ed7818a4cc06fb0bdd2e897b1a7e3883beb199.jpeg) - > [@Ian\_Morbius](#): > > ā€œwe donā€™t really want this spreadsheets in space situationā€ Speadsheets have the Interface on them which is not only kind of unique but make them more efficient for them, for that, and with that. It provides info faster, and makes the input faster, even though it does take a certain amount of power to load. It can make the work of the person which loads the spreadsheet with data easier, if it loads the data from an API program, which, EVE Online, does so happen to have, and more than one, at different times, I might add. Of course, you can use the data from the spreadsheet to process it for other uses, but, if you do that, then, you donā€™t have a spreadsheet in space situation. - [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/8/e/58e201be51a6e16394589542a7381d58a6a0791b.jpeg "Compound Interest: How You Can Turn $200 into $500,000") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-K1pVcmVzk) # Compound Interest: How You Can Turn $200 into $500,000 192,733 views ā€¢ _Streamed live on Aug 29, 2019_ [The Motley Fool](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpRQuynBX9Qy9tPrcswpPag) 316K subscribers ---
**Author:** ![LordOdysseus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lordodysseus/32/422627_2.png) [@LordOdysseus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LordOdysseus)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/8467 "2020-03-24T07:33:28Z")
Good morning, lovelies. ā¤ ---
**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/8468 "2020-03-24T15:12:34Z")
> [@lilsteel](#): > > I asked Epidemiologist if the virus could be contracted more than once, and they didnā€™t reply, one even interferred the communication, scared to answer, and refusing to say whether they knew or not. They donā€™t know yet. Thereā€™s been cases of someone ā€œgetting itā€ a 2nd time, but from what Iā€™ve read itā€™s likely this was just someone getting it once, and then testing negative (inaccurately) in the middle of having it. So, IOW, it appeared they had it, didnā€™t have it, and had it againā€¦ but really they had it that entire time but the test in the middle failed. Not enough testing + tests unreliable = we have no ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  idea. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/8469 "2020-03-24T16:55:36Z")
Bad news. This virus is mutating quicly because its RNA virus, not DNA, its like flu virus that when spread widely will mutate like flu as many generations of it are made inside peoples cells. More people infected = more generations = more quick mutations = it will stay with us just like flu. One year is not enough to eradicate it at that point, world will be changed, people will live shorter livesā€¦ One vaccine will not be enough. Strong Immunity system is what will save people right now. Herring and Mackerel is the best source of vitamin D that works like protective shield against infections. > **[Pickled Herring SmĆørrebrĆød (Danish Open-Faced Sandwich) Recipe](https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2014/12/pickled-herring-smorrebrod-danish-sandwich-recipe.html)** > > This classic Danish open-faced sandwiche features pickled herring with rich butter and dense, tangy sourdough rye bread. * * * ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/0/d012144f166bf712fe1d020dbbdc38f5efef71de.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![lilsteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lilsteel/32/272085_2.png) [@lilsteel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lilsteel)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/8470 "2020-03-24T19:10:43Z")
> [@Sylvia\_Kildare](#): > > They donā€™t know yet. > > Thereā€™s been cases of someone ā€œgetting itā€ a 2nd time, but from what Iā€™ve read itā€™s likely this was just someone getting it once, and then testing negative (inaccurately) in the middle of having it. So, IOW, it appeared they had it, didnā€™t have it, and had it againā€¦ but really they had it that entire time but the test in the middle failed. > > Not enough testing + tests unreliable = we have no ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  idea. That is the case I was asking her about, because the virus mutate and that is when we get it twice. Itā€™s all the same, and acts like some alien virus , except itā€™s not that alien since itā€™s with us. The numbers are now 4% of death, instead of 20%, which is 5 times better. Itā€™s still out of control at this time. So, many people will get it and heal, and the antibodies will not have killed them by overwhelming them, and unbalancing their system. I am not sure if the flu virus can be transmitted once it is healed, by leaving traces in the system with antibodies. This new virus can cause mild symptoms which is hard to detect, and may not show until later. The bird from the Christmas video turns out to be the exact same date this started across the earth. > **[How this Canadian start-up spotted coronavirus before everyone else knew...](https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/03/bluedot-used-artificial-intelligence-to-predict-coronavirus-spread.html)** > > Thanks to artificial intelligence, the start-up BlueDot was able to predict the initial spread of coronavirus quicker than public health authorities. The technology, which incorporates natural language processing and machine learning, has been used... > **[An AI Epidemiologist Sent the First Alerts of the Coronavirus](https://www.wired.com/story/ai-epidemiologist-wuhan-public-health-warnings/)** > > The BlueDot algorithm scours news reports and airline ticketing data to predict the spread of diseases like those linked to the flu outbreak in China. I donā€™t know how they control measles. I think they have some kind of vaccines against it, and that it is not a new thing. I think they manage to control it when it starts. - Also, certainty ratio is what is used to know the level of exactitude and margin of error, such as the ones used in scientific notation(s). Those numbers are numbered quantitatively , not only in quality, so that , exact ratios of what we know, where we know, and how that knowledge and understanding is, compared to others, from test and so on, is, and in some cases, will be, and when, and also how. - [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/1/9/519717a1d1e5e92a4a56bbad3f23c4db6f82587e.jpeg "What if The Polar Ice Caps Of The Earth Melt?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF1edSg5VP4) # What if The Polar Ice Caps Of The Earth Melt? 1,952 views ā€¢ _Mar 24, 2020_ [Ridddle](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9Ep0Y4T5rvUuIfjKN1wqTw) 2.95M subscribers - > [@lilsteel](#): > > # Compound Interest: How You Can Turn $200 into $500,000 > > 192,733 views ā€¢ _Streamed live on Aug 29, 2019_ iEuno1 14 hours ago It doesnā€™t include interference from the courts, which , if they do over 1 million in damage, wonā€™t even compare, at least 100% more, or, 200% total. iEuno1 1 second ago There is also a difference between compound interest at 10% or 20%, compared to 1% and 100% per day. 100% per day is a lot over the government limit of 60% per year by law for interest rates that can be charged legally. So, criminal level of interest can generate even more millions of trillions in fact, even in less than 0.1 seconds, so, faster than any human can make. - The 50% must-pay expenses, 20% saving, 30% fun stuff, also is not going to work if the savings are not protected by the powers that be. Then , itā€™s better save it elsewhere and move. Also, if your fun stuff is interfered from the same capital source, you might want to move to where there are other capital to have fun in. ---
**Author:** ![LordOdysseus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lordodysseus/32/422627_2.png) [@LordOdysseus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LordOdysseus)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/8471 "2020-03-24T22:04:38Z")
Itā€™s time for me to upgrade my Kindle. It is a third generation with a keyboard integrated in it. Even though I would love an Oasis with 32 GB of storage, Iā€™d still be content with Paperwhite with no ads(10 dollars more expensive than with ads). The thing is, it is not that it doesnā€™t do its job, it is because the battery needs to be replaced and my technician friend is not available due to c\*\*\*\*\*\*\*s outbreak. > **[Amazon Kindle | Third generation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Kindle#Third_generation)** > > Amazon announced the third-generation Kindle, later renamed "Kindle Keyboard", on July 28, 2010. Amazon began accepting pre-orders for the Kindle Keyboard as soon as it was announced and began shipping the devices on August 27, 2010. On August 25, Amazon announced that the Kindle Keyboard was the fastest-selling Kindle ever. While Amazon does not officially add numbers to the end of each Kindle denoting its generation, reviewers, customers and press companies often referred to this Kindle The Kin... I think Iā€™ll go to bed now. Good night, lovelies. ā¤ ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/8472 "2020-03-24T23:23:52Z")
Another day of confinement down. Maybe tomorrow Iā€™ll make a run for the supermarketā€¦ or maybe not. Nighties lovelies! Also: germsā€¦ they are everywhere, they go everywhere, and then to your face. PS: FORTNITE!! šŸ¤£ ---
**Author:** ![lilsteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lilsteel/32/272085_2.png) [@lilsteel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lilsteel)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/8473 "2020-03-25T00:06:59Z")
Thatā€™s when you realize that those lasers were intended to beam back to the pyramid, one mirror per sides, as if it wasnā€™t flat enough. Also, the flat ocean also covers most of the flat area of earth, on which, you donā€™t want to fall from 3 meters flat on your stomach while hitting the water, especially not if itā€™s going to open your stomach. - [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/c/0/7c0a9d9ae57b6135b0dc85200622dda7bc16fc8f.jpeg "Sexomnia | House M.D..") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR7teEjB_YU) [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/0/0/e0066e930cbd7def0eba712456e5d1b77547064a.jpeg "The Most Chaotic Patient Duty Moments | House M.D.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1ZN_GJqnLY) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/c/4c6c7f20a458eb88d86831123ad3a03846cb746b.jpeg) - > [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > Bad news. > > This virus is mutating quicly because its RNA virus, not DNA, its like flu virus that when spread widely will mutate like flu as many generations of it are made inside peoples cells. > More people infected = more generations = more quick mutations = it will stay with us just like flu. > > One year is not enough to eradicate it at that point, world will be changed, people will live shorter livesā€¦ > One vaccine will not be enough. Strong Immunity system is what will save people right now. Herring and Mackerel is the best source of vitamin D that works like protective shield against infections. yes. - [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/0/7/607b5e223b18551256aaddf8ba7d8781fcd8552d.jpeg "Gordon Ramsay Cooking In Disguise") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpTodVRR73E) [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/b/3/ab3b29dd9fb0c02182267e99b6bd2109a58ebf2e.jpeg "Gordon Ramsay Trains With The British Royal Marines | Gordon Ramsay") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK01gDq8d6A) - > **[Psychological warfare](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_warfare)** > > Psychological warfare (PSYWAR), or the basic aspects of modern psychological operations (PSYOP), has been known by many other names or terms, including Military Information Support Operations (MISO), political warfare, "winning hearts and minds", and propaganda. The term is used "to denote any action which is practiced mainly by psychological methods with the aim of evoking a planned psychological reaction in other people". > Various techniques are used, and are aimed at influencing a target audie... - [https://study.com/academy/lesson/what-is-psychological-warfare-definition-techniques-examples.html](https://study.com/academy/lesson/what-is-psychological-warfare-definition-techniques-examples.html) **What is Psychological Warfare? - Definition, Techniques & Examples** **The Invisible Soldier** **What is Psychological Warfare?** **Psychological warfare** is a broad term, but in all documented cases, the concept uses actions intended to reduce an opponentā€™s morale or mental well being. The aim is to use manipulative tactics to intimidate or persuade a person or people. ā€¦ **Propaganda** **Techniques** **News Outlets:** **Threats:** Threats of violence, restrictions of freedom, and control can be made to instill fear in the people. ā€¦ **Leaflets:** **Objects:** Using objects such as t-shirts, posters, hats, pins, and more is an effective way to get a message across. ā€¦ These objects can become tools for promotion and even worship. **False flag:** **Media:** While it may not seem like it, films, music, and books can act as tools for psychological warfare. The messages in media can rewrite history from a new perspective and/or put new ideas in the minds of the populous. **Examples of Psychological Warfare** World War II - [https://medium.com/@womanistpsych/psychological-warfare-tactics-manipulating-your-vote-182d754961cd](https://medium.com/@womanistpsych/psychological-warfare-tactics-manipulating-your-vote-182d754961cd) 1. Spread Misinformation: The Nader Myth 2. Be Deceptive 3. Guilt Trip 4. Attempt To Humiliate 5. Be Unreasonable 6. Spout Impressive Sounding Empty Rhetoric 7. Present Fake Sincerity 8. Lie 9. Be A Fear Monger 10. Activate The Lucifer Effect 11. Gaslight 12. Intentionally Commit Logical Fallacy ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/e/aeac8d5c3b96b7bcdb6fdfbd32a01518da2cd39e.png) - > **[Military logistics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_logistics)** > > Military logistics is the discipline of planning and carrying out the movement, supply, and maintenance of military forces. In its most comprehensive sense, it is those aspects or military operations that deal with: > Logistics is an enabler of military operations, not an end in itself. Poor logistics can result in defeat, but even the best logistics cannot guarantee victory. Conversely, the best possible logistics is not always required: fit for purpose can suffice. > The word "logistics" is deriv... **[Military](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military) [logistics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logistics)** is the discipline of planning and carrying out the movement, supply, and maintenance of military forces. In its most comprehensive sense, it is those aspects or military operations that deal with:[[1]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_logistics#cite_note-1) - Design, development, [acquisition](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_acquisition), storage, distribution, maintenance, evacuation, and disposition of [materiel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materiel). - Transport of personnel. - Acquisition or construction, maintenance, [operation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operations_(military_staff)), and disposition of facilities. - Acquisition or furnishing of services. - Medical and health service support. ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/8474 "2020-03-25T23:28:54Z")
Hmmā€¦ apparently one fo he reasons why Covid-91 is killing so many Italians and Spaniards itā€™s a genetic one: both Italians and Spaniards share some genes which make the inmune system respond with a faster activation of macrophages, which is good for most infections, but in the case of Covid-19 it is triggering two kinds of autoinmune reactions which cause severe damage to the lungs. With this in mind, a doctor has already shared the experience at his hospital and is suggesting to Spanish doctors to look for a very specific substance in blood tests which points to a large macrophage reaction, and any increase in that substance is a sign that the patient will go critical. Quite wicked, Spaniards and Italians die more often because we have a naturally stronger inmunityā€¦ Nighties lovelies! ---
**Author:** ![lilsteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lilsteel/32/272085_2.png) [@lilsteel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lilsteel)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2020, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/8475 "2020-03-26T01:11:34Z")
> [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#): > > a genetic one: both Italians and Spaniards share some genes which make the inmune system respond with a faster activation of macrophages, which is good for most infections, but in the case of Covid-19 it is triggering two kinds of autoinmune reactions which cause severe damage to the lungs. With this in mind, a doctor has already shared the experience at his hospital and is suggesting to Spanish doctors to look for a very specific substance in blood tests which points to a large macrophage reaction, and any increase in that substance is a sign that the patient will go critical. > There is something similar with Malaria medication and how it reacts differently than other with people from the Mediterranean sea. ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2020, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/8476 "2020-03-26T08:57:19Z")
Iā€™d guess that the reason of this genetic difference of Italian and Spaniards might be the exposure to malaria, which over thousands of years might have caused a natural selection of children bearing genes better adapted to infections. I mean, my city is built on literally a flood plain and there used to be a lot of swamps around it until the 19th centuryā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2020, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/8477 "2020-03-26T09:06:18Z")
I am confused. Does it mean that improper reaction of immune system is literally choking those people? Macrophages instead of antibodies? Because virus uses protein similar to Malaria? šŸ¤” This seems to be proper response to viruses: > **[Immune responses to viruses | British Society for Immunology](https://www.immunology.org/public-information/bitesized-immunology/pathogens-and-disease/immune-responses-viruses)** > > Via cytotoxic cells ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2020, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/8478 "2020-03-26T09:40:06Z")
On some people, the virus atacks the inmune system and causes a overreaction (what is called a autoinmune reaction), and that overreaction is worse on people whose genes carry a naturally stronger inmune reaction. Macrophages kill and swallow everything on their path, and the ā€œkillā€ part itā€™s by releasing a kind of proteins called cytokines. Cytokines are like herbicides, they mostly harm the bad weeds but can also kill the good ones in higher doses, and when macrophages run out of control they release too many cytokines and kill even the cells they were supposed to protect. The stronger the natural response of macrophages, the worse the damage caused. So letā€™s say a German is infected and his inmune system sends 10 billion macrophages. They do some harm, but essentially they kill more of the bad guys than good guys. Yet in the same circumstances, a Spaniard or Italian will send in 20 billion, 30 billion, 40 billion macrophages, maybe because thatā€™s what exposure to malaria selected over millenia, and all those macrophages will kill everything in sight, including the epithelial cells of the lungs, leaving them open to bacterial infection. And this would explain how in seven fukks could a 37 years old well fit policeman die in a couple of weeks: his young, strong inmune system totally wrecked his lungs in an autoinmune reaction. The malaria link is that for some reason, it loks like Chloroquine (an anti-malaria drug) shortens the recovery period of some people with a positive test result but no critical condition. And it turns that the main test itā€™s been carried out at Marseille, southern France, a region which used to suffer from swamps and malaria. ---
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Memo: if you ever consider playing War Thunder, bear in mind that Gaijin Entertainment is paltry to the point of ludicrousness: not only their MTs are overpriced, but their concept of ā€œrewardā€ means giving you ā€œconvertible experienceā€ which can only be used by buying premium currency. Yes, their ideea of rewarding players for achieving, say, 100 kills while being critically damaged, is to deliver something that can only be used if you pay them 4 euros. Then thereā€™s the point with ā€œwagersā€ which mean the MM will match you against uberteams who will make impossible to fulfill the wager, bonuses which last for the awesome time of a single match (and yes, the MM will uptier you ALWAYS so youā€™re likely to waste the bonus), et cetera. Gaijn is a retarded piece of carp developer. People feel DIRTY to even give them money. I wonā€™t fall that low, once I canā€™t progress without paying, that will be g-bye for War Thunder. PS: Ctrl+Left Cap+Esc is your best friend when playing War Thunder. As soon as you are offered a ā€œsnipers galoreā€ map, you can Ctr+Left Cap+Esc to Windows Task Manager, kill the War Thunder process and leave the game before entering the match, so you can start again and have a chance of being sent to a different map. If you leave the match once started, your units will be blocked for a few minutes, but killing the process while it loads the map is harmless. šŸ‘©ā€šŸ« ---
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Timezone lovelies. ā¤ ---
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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > Does it mean that improper reaction of immune system is literally choking those people? It seems to be what kills most of the dead. Iā€™m not sure about the Macrophages and antibodies part, however, the immune system reaction in the supposedly vulnerable people is what is causing their death, compared to others who heal. _Edited in:_ Both the reaction to the virus and the metabolism of those people affect the outcome. So, there would need to be something else to fix this for them, taking into account their different metabolism, and, to compensate for this. They may be more immune to other conditions, but this one (condition) may affect them more than others instead (I would think due to mutation, or, as direct attack against them). _End of Edit._ Most people are not healed yet, as the virus is still in effect. Those are only counting those cases which healed and died. I donā€™t know if they can get it twice, or, a mutated version, the second time, or, become unable to contract it after, or, can infect others once healed. The flu virus can be spread to others who didnā€™t get it, even after you healed from it, and, that the antibodies in your system killed the virus. Traces are enough to infect someone who has no antibodies to it. - > [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#): > > including the epithelial cells of the lungs, leaving them open to bacterial infection. I had an Ivy of antibiotics on January 2, 2020, because I had a bacterial infection from wearing a dust mask which had dust inside, spread from using dirty gloves in contact with 10 years old documents in contact with and accumulating dust over them, as well as 30 foot high metals racks on which some of those documents were. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/8/c/98cf2b35a06bdc94bca68d9e3f42c98c2731e6b4.jpeg "NASA's Lunar Gateway Is Being Skipped In The Race To The Moon") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHtmSL08xPM) # NASAā€™s Lunar Gateway Is Being Skipped In The Race To The Moon 92,794 views ā€¢ _Mar 26, 2020_ 90K views - 12 hours ago [Scott Manley](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxzC4EngIsMrPmbm6Nxvb-A) 1.03M subscribers ---
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