# The like and get likes thread II **URL:** \ **Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\ **Created:** [April 17, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342 "2018-04-17T20:06:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 67
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1325 "2018-06-05T07:29:19Z")
Oh, he broke again. 😔 ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1326 "2018-06-05T08:51:15Z")
https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?visual=false&url=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F233442990&show_artwork=true&maxheight=166 Silly melody. ---
**Author:** ![WhyYouHeffToBeMad\_IsOnlyGame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whyyouhefftobemad_isonlygame/32/272304_2.png) [@WhyYouHeffToBeMad\_IsOnlyGame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/WhyYouHeffToBeMad_IsOnlyGame)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1327 "2018-06-05T09:35:26Z")
> most people who PvP are losers > one can only waste so much time and effort in childish activities like “being the best” and “winning” in a bloody game. I no longer have respect for you. if you’re so quick to dismiss your losses and failures, in a game mind you, as the fault of someone else, maybe you shouldn’t be interacting with people this way. just pick an offline singleplayer game like fallout and stick with it. especially with that rotten attitude of yours. you essentially just said that you think people like me, who have more fun than you, are losers. honestly that seems like jealously to me because you can’t enjoy something that other people do,and you see how much fun we have and you just say “oh what a loser”. cry me a river. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1328 "2018-06-05T09:44:03Z")
Well, nobody prohibits you having fun when losing. 😉 Truth is there can be only one! ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/e/7ec13fea7b7bba5a7b6a8a57752b723381c65960.png) :the\_joke: ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dunning_kruger/32/414724_2.png) [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dunning_Kruger)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1329 "2018-06-05T10:08:19Z")
[https://www.schneier.com/essays/archives/2006/08/refuse\_to\_be\_terrori.html](https://www.schneier.com/essays/archives/2006/08/refuse_to_be_terrori.html) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dunning_kruger/32/414724_2.png) [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dunning_Kruger)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1330 "2018-06-05T12:21:31Z")
> **[‘Precision’ airstrikes kill civilians. In Raqqa we saw the devastation for...](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/05/british-us-airstrikes-raqqa-civilians-killed)** > > Amnesty’s research reveals the huge civilian toll of bombings by the US-led coalition forces in the Syrian city, say its report authors Donatella Rovera and Benjamin Walsby ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dunning_kruger/32/414724_2.png) [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dunning_Kruger)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1331 "2018-06-05T12:22:03Z")
Hey guys! Let’s play a game! ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/7/37fb05259e2a559b4867e77540c3e73587e42ba9.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1332 "2018-06-05T12:58:49Z")
You should like _really_ read carefully before jumping the gun. Let me quote that for you again: “In the long run, most people who PvP are losers; this is why PvP tends to kill itself” That is, since most people who try PvP (in any gam, there’s life outside EVE) lose more than they win, they stop trying, thus PvP population shrinks to a few selected people who have won a lot, but start losing against the tougher competitors so they leave too; and then the absolute unicorns, the top of the top, just no longer find worthy oponents and quit too. And then PvP dies. The same happens with the will to compete of athletes; competition is a mean, not an end. And thus it ends. When someone is making a point, you should not just jump on a word, rather read the whole thing. 🤷‍♀️ ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1333 "2018-06-05T13:01:08Z")
@discobot fortune is WhyYouHeffToBeMad IsOnlyGame too quick to jump the gun? ---
**Author:** ![discobot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/discobot/32/99_2.png) [@discobot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/discobot)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1334 "2018-06-05T13:01:12Z")
> 🔮 Reply hazy try again ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1335 "2018-06-05T13:01:57Z")
@discobot fortune should WhyYouHeffToBeMad IsOnlyGame read the whole thing before accusing people? ---
**Author:** ![discobot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/discobot/32/99_2.png) [@discobot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/discobot)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1336 "2018-06-05T13:01:59Z")
> 🔮 Yes ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1337 "2018-06-05T13:02:44Z")
Mrs. Justice, I rest my case. 👩‍⚖️ ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dunning_kruger/32/414724_2.png) [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dunning_Kruger)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1338 "2018-06-05T13:04:41Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/0/20957dcdc732fbc9281c907f8865587bb2732d24.png) 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1339 "2018-06-05T13:39:39Z")
> [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#): > > That is, since most people who try PvP (in any gam, there’s life outside EVE) lose more than they win, they stop trying, thus PvP population shrinks to a few selected people who have won a lot, but start losing against the tougher competitors so they leave too; and then the absolute unicorns, the top of the top, just no longer find worthy oponents and quit too. And then PvP dies. The same happens with the will to compete of athletes; competition is a mean, not an end. And thus it ends. On a small scale that is visible with GTA online matches, people from losing team leaving match. Hordes of “elite” PvPers leaving. 😂 Those who stay are in even worse position as they are overwhelmed more quickly by the enemy team so then they quit too. Few people who do not care for K/D ratio and are there only to make some lazy $ tend to last to the end of match and then leaving, not waiting for next match. People who are AFK with something heavy pressing against “w” button tend to last several matches. With PvP centric games, PvP servers, when its also open world, when its so cutthroat and without mitigation PvP, it is really bleeding players with time. Games that have mechanisms that I would call “coping mechanisms” where you can be left in peace and do what you want (solo experience, industry, other “jobs”) only ocasionally being reminded about that “grrrrrrrrr something” you dont like, are tending to do rather ok. ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1340 "2018-06-05T13:49:48Z")
Yes, this is why EVE lasted 15 years… because really pew pew is a smal fraction of the game, most of the time most of the players are doing things totally unrelated to doing PvP. Even PvPrs spend most of their time with stuff like assembling fleets, jumping, roaming… The potential to just do your own thing unbothered is essential for Games as a Service. GTAO is successful in that sense, and probably in the long run it will bring greater revenue than all battle royale games combined. Who’s gonna be still playing a BR game in 3 years? I already said once, that competition sports are very minoritary. For anyone who runs to win, there’s thousands who run just to improve their marks. So as a business model, selling gear to amateur runners is a lot better than would be selling only top gear to top athletes. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1341 "2018-06-05T14:02:32Z")
GTA Online have solo missions, have PvP invulnerability, complete invulnerability, so its something a relaxing person can just turn on and laugh at others blowing themselves up. GTA is just ok with people not playing with intend to fight others. Most of people playing EVE are just doing their own stuff, of course it involves some other people at some point, maybe even some ship fights. But the interaction is not fighting necessarily, but waiting, jumping gates, chatting, cooperating, competing on market orders, not direct head to head race every moment you log in. Recent re-review of the game is a good example, so much slower pace towards the epic moments of being in a battle AT LEAST ONCE IN A LIFETIME. Hehehehe. ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1342 "2018-06-05T14:12:10Z")
I love the brain-dead PvP of RPG vs Insurgents, crazy fun unless insurgent rolls over you on their first jump 🤣 But then sometimes I’ve just taken Ish to the beach for a swim and back home. That’s a true sandbox. ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1343 "2018-06-05T14:36:10Z")
I love this picture. ---
**Author:** ![Sebat\_Hadah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebat_hadah/32/248462_2.png) [@Sebat\_Hadah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebat_Hadah)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1344 "2018-06-05T14:39:54Z")
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