# The like and get likes thread II

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342>\
**Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\
**Created:** [April 17, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342 "2018-04-17T20:06:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1645 "2018-06-17T10:52:07Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> We should not jump into prejudices here. What if they are like Robin from Sherwood?

It’s not prejudices, but a fact. Go buy a handbag and come back the next day to refund it. See if you can first find the guy who sold it to you and then see if you can get your money back. Then we can talk again.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1646 "2018-06-17T10:59:15Z")

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> **[Shoplifters of the working class unite!](https://freedomnews.org.uk/shoplifters-of-the-working-class-unite/)**
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> In this piece by Parris Komyune, of the blog Lenin was a Cheeseboard, the morality of expropriation (i.e. nicking stuff, you probably earned it anyway) is explored, and the excuses against it are c…

Inequalities lead to disobedience. This is a known fact. If the inequalities grow deep, the disobedience arises. It is peoples justice, regimes are toppled, revolutions arise…

Its the way things were thruout history, and nothing seems to change in that for future. 🤔

Cyberpunk 2077 have this dystopian setting too, where inequalities lead to social disobedience.

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1647 "2018-06-17T11:14:06Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> Inequalities lead to disobedience.

There is far more, which leads to disobedience, not only inequalities. Come to the UK. We have welfare, charities and brexit. Our country is build on disobedience, girl.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1648 "2018-06-17T11:15:09Z")

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By Robins from Sherwood? 😏

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1649 "2018-06-17T11:18:50Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> By Robins from Sherwood? 😏

You know it’s just a tale, right?

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1650 "2018-06-17T11:23:22Z")

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We have those tales too, and even taxes that make use of the idea. The more wealthy Voivodeships have to pay extra for the poorest regions. EU budget even have the same principle. We are more Robin-esque than Robin. Its institionalized Robin-ery one could say. But the wealthy always wanted to oppose it.

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1651 "2018-06-17T11:25:32Z")

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Well, There’s the tohr side. You own a shop, pay your taxes, work 40-50 hours a week and barely make ends meet. And there’s somene selling cheap knockoffs and unregulated products like those you sell, imported in bulk by shady distributors who supply them to street sellers. And you know that each handbag, glasses, shirt, kerchief, tie, watch, whatever it’s sold on the street, won’t be sold at your shop.

So you turn to the authorities and say “why do I pay taxes? Why do I have an employee and apy his/her social protection? Why do I buy legally imported stuff that follows regulations? Why do I play by the rules when that guy over there is taking my customers away with products imported by gangs?”

It’s a very complex balance. Becuse, that people will keep coming. 600+ last night. 800+ the night before. Moroccan police is suspected to be pressing them to GTFO while Spain is in the news because of that Aquarius ship. No papers, no job, no way to upkeep themselves but scrapping the bottom.

And then months of a year after they make it, if Spain was their goala dn they didn’t left for the rest of the UE, they’re right in front of your shop selling 3 € handbags, which is less than your cheap-but-quality handbags cost yours wholesale. And yes, customers know those handbags will self-destruct in a matter of days or weeks, warranty and return are unknown concepts, but they’re 3 € and the shop’s are 9 €. And msiery feeds itself. Low wages buy low cost knockofss and cause the loss of shops and their wages and everybody is poorer so strives to find cheaper stuff… and more and more misery comes from Africa by the hundreds and thousands and tens of thousands.

But well, this is jsut getting political. Bettter stop it here.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1652 "2018-06-17T11:29:18Z")

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Main issue is Africa and close proximity to europe south-east is still rather poor and uneducated. When that will not change, things like people migrations will still occur.

The need is for more global solution. Maybe under chinese even, as they invest a lot in africa.

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1653 "2018-06-17T11:35:12Z")

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The frighten monkey in our brain knows that no property = death. So in oen hand drives a healthy desire to property (a home, clothes to protect form weather, food) but also in some people just gets stuck in reward mode. Got a thing, feel rewarded, then aim to get two things. Or three. Because the mroe you own, the more you’ll have to lose in order to die.

The frighten monkey knows. And ti doesn’t wants tales about how it will efifn’ die no matter how much it owns. The frighten monkey is afraid of not owning and is high on owning. And the rational mind can pretty much eff itself against that primal urge.

Only rarely the rational mind can take a piece and say “well, you’re like the richest man in the world, so, how about spending a few bilions making the world a better place?” Btu that’s very rare. There is one Bill Gates and too many frighten monkey who think that, since fortune and depredation made them rich, the world owes them to become even richer and more predatory until they die.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1654 "2018-06-17T12:15:24Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/0/7010431ae9e67fe7b34f1d4f71019d711bca67f9.png)

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1655 "2018-06-17T12:19:56Z")

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Oh look, what opportunity!

Its an island, it’s a 19th century fort, it’s cheaper than a flat in London (400,000 GBP)…

[https://www.purplebricks.co.uk/property-for-sale/stone-house-milford-haven-353674](https://www.purplebricks.co.uk/property-for-sale/stone-house-milford-haven-353674)

…also is Grade II listed, has no electricity nor running water, is in severe disrepair, the island it’s just a bunch of rocks and gravel barely surfacing from the water and there’s vistas to… huh… barren shoreland and the sea?

(Location [here](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Stack+Rock+Fort,+Milford+Haven,+South+Wales,/@51.702549,-5.0943124,694m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x4869235254267849:0x28c043f80610c806!2sMilford+Haven,+Reino+Unido!3b1!8m2!3d51.714306!4d-5.0426971!3m4!1s0x48693db656467ab5:0x2bf2515f5573672f!8m2!3d51.702549!4d-5.0921237))

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1656 "2018-06-17T12:24:26Z")

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One could change it into a small country. With soil one could make a small garden. Water from rain in a cistern. Electricity from wind and solar power. Like being in a 1-man corporation in EVE.

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1657 "2018-06-17T12:30:59Z")

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Or if there was any kind of tourism in the area, it could be rebuilt as a luxury hotel, but the thing is in the middle of nowhere and refitting the building and provide basic services from shore would cost like 15 or 20 milion euros… and the amount of bedrooms oen could build without altering the structure (i.e. no extra floors) would be unpractical. As a business proposal, it’s a fool’s buy. But, maybe a whimsical millionaire would fancy to own his very Victorian fort…?

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1658 "2018-06-17T12:33:42Z")

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Needs a very big sum for building stuff on it, even if you could build much of things yourself, the transport costs are huge.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1659 "2018-06-17T12:39:41Z")

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> **[Why India's Mars mission is so cheap - and thrilling](https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-29341850)**
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> India's Mangalyaan satellite is staggeringly cheap by Western standards - but it hopes to address some of the biggest questions on Mars, writes the BBC's Jonathan Amos.

A space mision cheaper than making a videogame. 🤯

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**Author:** ![The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dunning_kruger/32/414724_2.png) [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dunning_Kruger)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1661 "2018-06-17T12:48:52Z")

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What is it with people ridiculing our language? No German would ever pronounce those words that way, let alone that the supposedly German in that video is a Bavarian, not a German.

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1662 "2018-06-17T12:56:47Z")

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(sees post withdrawn, wonders whether LordOdysseus was being naughty) 🤔

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1663 "2018-06-17T12:58:45Z")

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**Author:** ![The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dunning_kruger/32/414724_2.png) [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dunning_Kruger)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1664 "2018-06-17T13:01:06Z")

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Now that’s not even a German word.

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**Author:** ![The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dunning_kruger/32/414724_2.png) [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dunning_Kruger)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-ii/70342/1665 "2018-06-17T13:06:05Z")

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> **[UN experts denounce 'myth' pesticides are necessary to feed the world](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/mar/07/un-experts-denounce-myth-pesticides-are-necessary-to-feed-the-world)**
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> Report warns of catastrophic consequences and blames manufacturers for ‘systematic denial of harms’ and ‘unethical marketing tactics’

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