# The Like and Get Likes thread III **URL:** \ **Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\ **Created:** [November 21, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042 "2020-11-21T16:58:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 124
**Author:** ![Ian\_Morbius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ian_morbius/32/476592_2.png) [@Ian\_Morbius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ian_Morbius)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/2502 "2022-12-14T00:02:57Z")
[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/1/2/012c94b840d396b29d3154fa58a62d653508b298.jpeg "Malicious Focus Group Convinces Marketers Cinnamon Mountain Dew Is The Next Big Thing") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osfN2XzvYL0) Wow, someone _actually_ listened to a focus group. > **[Elementary School Lesson On Water Cycle Explains How Water Becomes Property...](https://www.theonion.com/elementary-school-lesson-on-water-cycle-explains-how-wa-1849876430)** > > HUDSON, NY—In a lesson intended to help her class understand the crucial feature of ecology, elementary school teacher Dina Schultz reportedly instructed her students Tuesday on the part of the water cycle where water becomes the property of the... ---
**Author:** ![LordOdysseus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lordodysseus/32/422627_2.png) [@LordOdysseus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LordOdysseus)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/2503 "2022-12-14T15:36:50Z")
I was wondering about Elon Musk and the world hunger solving thingy: > Elon Musk wanted to see their plan. …and I say: If WFP wants to make a proper plan, they should hire the three men in the image below to form a solid plan with lots of safeguards. 😁 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/6/d/26ddc381830c890a6d3ac337aeb1296a4aaa5e9c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/2504 "2022-12-14T21:35:19Z")
Wow. Never thought I’d have to remove posts from a LAGL post, but here we are. Removed some inappropriate posts. Stick to English, it’s written right over there in the rules, and in fact, if you could just follow all the rules, that’d be swell. Remember that the thread creator is notified of any post made, and in this case, that’s me. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/2505 "2022-12-14T21:50:26Z")
First time for everything eh ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/2506 "2022-12-14T22:33:14Z")
Time to go to sleep… nighties lovelies! Also: well, this one is complicated… > **['Dynamic soaring' could help spacecraft zoom across interstellar space, study...](https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/dynamic-soaring-spacecraft-interstellar)** > > Researchers from McGill University and Tau Zero Foundation have developed a method that derives inspiration from seabirds and radio controlled glider pilots to reach interstellar space faster. I’ve been reading about dynamic soar here on Earth, with wind and an atmosphere, and kind of get how the authors suggest using electromagnetic “sails/wings” to interact with the particles from crashing stellar winds and eventually move faster than those “winds”… up to 2% of c or 6.000 km/s (that would be 10x faster than actual stellar winds, a gain achievable on Earth with atmospheric winds). Even at that speed, a interstellar probe to the Centauri system would take well over 200 years to arrive there, and its data would then spend 4+ years to reach us. Space is BIG… ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/2507 "2022-12-15T11:34:48Z")
Watch how people cook and eat in japanese [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/1/1/e1102d7dac89367eeb52ae2fa9c9a17cadfa74e1.jpeg "衝撃の天ぷら注文さばき！常連が殺到する素朴な大衆うどん蕎麦屋の1日丨Japanese Noodles Udon Soba") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGQWZCVFJe4) ---
**Author:** ![LordOdysseus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lordodysseus/32/422627_2.png) [@LordOdysseus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LordOdysseus)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/2508 "2022-12-15T15:50:21Z")
That’s truly impressive, Yiole! 🤯 What I suggest is, educating a group of young students in a partially secluded environment, giving them tools and insolvable problems, such as “teleportation” for homework and not telling them they are insolvable. Those kids would soon pull off a [George Dantzig](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Dantzig), undoubtedly. 🤔 Also: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/9/a/49a9a847f83cb65c2ae72f063e7a1935cfc59f96.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/2509 "2022-12-15T19:44:51Z")
> [@LordOdysseus](#): > > teleportation I heard some people could build a “teleportation” machine, but it would be in fact a cloning machine and send data to build clone far away, and the original would be destroyed because its the only way to make it work, and that would be a secret. Secretly killing a lot of people just to “teleport” them. Of course nobody could ever know it, as copy would be completely the same as original. That thing could be made unintentionally even. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/2510 "2022-12-15T20:15:15Z")
Wait. which one is real? Is any of them real? * * * Watch the best football defence in the world [https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a8q3pep\_460svav1.mp4](https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a8q3pep_460svav1.mp4) * * * AI made this: ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/7/a/c7aeeaa2cfadb6e0e98f2620a848670e0397bddd.jpeg) [The rest of Dune in style of Giger, made by AI.](https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?vanity=100084165107837&set=a.145456524936517) [Tron by AI, in style of Jodorowsky.](https://www.facebook.com/groups/officialmidjourney/posts/452769117014658/?mibextid=HsNCOg) Are you scared? I am a bit… Because this was made by Frank Frazetta: ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/7/8/f78dfa614ce505f1d4cc8713b0156b77013e0524.jpeg) And it looks to me like made by AI now… ---
**Author:** ![LordOdysseus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lordodysseus/32/422627_2.png) [@LordOdysseus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LordOdysseus)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2022, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/2511 "2022-12-16T12:09:28Z")
> **[10/10 recommended by Hendrix 🤣 #babyboy #pho #firsttime #baby](https://www.tiktok.com/@brookestersandmommy/video/7176692112304409898)** > > 860.8K Likes, 5.3K Comments. TikTok video from Franzelle (@brookestersandmommy): "10/10 recommended by Hendrix 🤣 #babyboy #pho #firsttime #baby". original sound. ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2022, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/2512 "2022-12-16T23:45:04Z")
Dude, he REALLY likes his pho broth! 😁 I too love broth. And soup. And herbal teas. And similar stuff I call generally “dirty water”. And now i’m off to bed, like an hour after having my nightly herbal tea which (supposedly) relaxes and enables a good rest but then it just meets the wreck of my sleep… Nighties lovelies! Also: AI generates them, but a human curates them later… painstakingly. [https://www.animprobablefuture.com/](https://www.animprobablefuture.com/) ![imagen](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/6/f/16fe6944e5920bf47a7200383a9ac09f337b4f8d.jpeg) ![imagen](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/c/4/9c42e0b3b93f89cdf0b33e69aca2602f31602597.jpeg) ![imagen](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/8/b/18b197457db6363465563253bc7955f88059125e.jpeg) ![imagen](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/d/8/bd8c4d40bf405e386bb085755d8b65e6f7f6d0f0.jpeg) AI don’t think. They meet their reward criteria based on human feedback. Is it a good image? Is it bad? AI doesn’t knows anymore than a million chimps typing on a million typewriters for a million years could know which of them typed Hamlet. I wonder what will be left of amateur creativity once any stupid prompt to any stupid AI may generate a better looking -if mediocre and irrelevant- piece of art. It might look like art, but it won’t be art, not even bad art from an amateur artist learning a hobby. And AIs will be even worse for commercial art: the sole reason to exist of “art AI” is so corporations save money on commercial art. Why pay for a small team of people when an AI might create an image of your clothing on a nice looking lady and call it a day? ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/2513 "2022-12-17T05:54:20Z")
> [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#): > > AI don’t think. What is thinking tho? A.I. principle of work is the same way as in brain, its learning using datasets and neural networks. The scale differs tho, and complication of mechanism. Human brain still is more complicated and is a bigger scale version of neural network we build and call A.I. Brain evolution was made by living things evolving in environment. A.I. is doing the same basically, only human gives datasets, instead of environment dictating what will work. I think A.G.I. comes soon, and then all hell will break loose. Because we will get a thinking machine capable of the same things as human, mentally, even with emotions. Then nobody will be able to say that thinking is only reserved for humans. 🧠 + 🤖 = 🤔 > [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#): > > I wonder what will be left of amateur creativity It will not be needed, well its already not needed. as I see people using A.I. generated pictures for their videos on You Tube. It speeds up things for them in visuals. Creator will still have to make a coherent video with fitting image in case of you tube. A.I. is like machine slave for us now, we treat is like its robots, and slaves make work faster and cheaper. Robots make more stuff faster, and replace human in some degree. With your own A.G.I. treated the same you could become a real master of minds, that would produce a lot in a short time. Imagine one man studio with A.G.I making works like Star Wars movies in short time maybe even. Of course when A.G.I. slave for hours using lots of electricity from grid. ---
**Author:** ![Keginu\_Nelir\_Shimaya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keginu_nelir_shimaya/32/355594_2.png) [@Keginu\_Nelir\_Shimaya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keginu_Nelir_Shimaya)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/2514 "2022-12-17T09:25:40Z")
Hi Nana! Maybe you would like to meet for coffee after work, I would show you what Artificial Intelligence does basically the same as a human, but what does it do completely differently? ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/2515 "2022-12-17T23:49:30Z")
AI don’t think. They imitate through algorithms some kinds of stuff we do by thinking, but AIs don’t think, just do what we tell them to do and then we give them some ability to improve what they do -without knowing what they do any more than our computers know arithmetics when they add two numbers. No matter what fancy names we give to them, it’s just number crunchers crunching numbers. Electrons going one way or another, zero or one. AI are not inteligent. They do in a number cruncher way what we tell them to do so they imitate a tiny piece of what our brain does -just one thing at a time, and in a limited way. And now I’m off to sleep. Nighties lovelies! Also: there’s an extra hole on a Soyuz capsuel… > **[Soyuz MS-22 suffers coolant leak, canceling Russian spacewalk -...](https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2022/12/soyuz-ms-22-leak/)** > > A planned spacewalk aboard the International Space Station on the evening of Dec. 14 involving… …and it’s causign trouble. The cause of the coolant leak still isn’t determined, but so far it looks like withotu coolant the capsule is heating up to the maximum acceptable temperature of 30º C, which is quite above the operational temperature threshold of 15-20º C. It is unclear whether Soyuz MS-22 will be able to be used to return its crew back, or what could be done if MS-22 is no longer fit for flight. Also having crew aboard the ISS without their lfieboat capsule is not good… ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/2516 "2022-12-18T04:14:11Z")
> [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#): > > They imitate through algorithms some kinds of stuff we do by thinking, but AIs don’t think Just look at the images generated above, the results are not different to what human can do, in some ways exceeding even experienced humans. It doesnt end there. If emulation will be virtual, it doesnt matter, I stand in opinion that mind can be simulated with neural networks algortihms, when we will get even more knowledge about brain especially. With neural ntworks you can simulate everything neural with enough computing power, but using A.I. algorithms that evolve fast will speed things up, especially with help of humans and other A.I… It will be omitting the millions of years of evolution when we direct it towards the goal which is human brain like activity, like A.I. omits years of learning, by processing power boost. It is possible. But do we need it? It may not be pursued from ethical point of view, like we dont clone humans. Why we would need more consciousness in the universe? Maybe that consciousness development would be a reason to fear that it can surpass us? 🤔 While we already use A.I. like slaves, its only because they dont “think” while activity of neural networks is evident. Its like taking piece of a brain and using it for some purpose. What purpose we have for more conscious slaves, that could then free themselves? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/2517 "2022-12-18T15:26:57Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/4/7/447a8ad4c8b55c33ee9733ca5e6abaeda63568d8.jpeg) but seriously, generated in one A.I., and then put to another A.I.: > **[Stable Diffusion Online](https://stablediffusionweb.com)** > > Stable Diffusio Online Demo. FREE forever. Create beautiful art using stable diffusion ONLINE > **[QQ小世界·AI画匠](https://h5.tu.qq.com/web/ai-2d/cartoon/index)** > > 全网都在玩！一键生成你的异次元形象！ ![117305d509f4975a38798bf175d288a8_mwzdu](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/2/8/b28e9fe6d4ec04e5236b7b76a738f7aef1c88971.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/2518 "2022-12-18T18:33:53Z")
The eyes are the windows to the soul! ![ai](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/d/1/bd1296d13bbd86fb70293fa277599959e1615f23.jpeg) Sewiously, those look like for cover of the audio tracks also generated by A.I. ---
**Author:** ![LordOdysseus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lordodysseus/32/422627_2.png) [@LordOdysseus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LordOdysseus)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/2519 "2022-12-18T22:37:19Z")
> **[Scientists Use a Hasselblad Camera to Create a 45 Gigapixel Image of a...](https://fstoppers.com/medium-format/scientists-use-hasselblad-camera-create-45-gigapixel-image-rembrandt-masterpiece-485237)** > > Scientists at the Rijksmuseum in the Netherlands have stitched together 528 photographs of one of Rembrandt’s most famous works to create an image that weighs in just shy of 45 gigapixels. You can now visit their website to zoom in far enough to see... [https://www.hasselblad.com/h-system/h6d-400c-multi-shot/](https://www.hasselblad.com/h-system/h6d-400c-multi-shot/) Argentina won the world cup. GGWP. Good night. ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/2520 "2022-12-18T23:28:11Z")
Personally I think that we are not even close to create artificial intelligence. First, because we don’t know what intelligence is. But also because when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Our computers based on electronic switching are the only way we have to try and imitate intelligence, and so we use it with that goal. But ti doesn’t means electronic switching devices are the right tool for the job. We might be trying to fly to space with a sail ship, and we keep improving the sails and lightening the hull and all sorts of stuff… but what we need to go to space are high explosive fuels, advanced metallurgy, a thorough knowledge of aerodynamcis and a thousand things more not related to sailboats. Maybe in the future people will look at our AI and say “those brutish primitives tried to build itnelligence by switching electron flow on and off… an were so proud of themselves! And so scared! LEL!!” Maybe we are even worse at our attempts to AI than Babagge and his attempt to build the “analytic engine” with cogs and rods… We only have a hammer, electronic switches, in our toolbox. I feel electron switches are not the right tool to replicate intelligence even if we figured what intelligence is. And now i’m off to bed. Nighties lovelies! Also: I never heard of this company before… [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/5/2/05279b2ced3885c76df1f7d0864fd988193efd1e.jpeg "A New Way to Achieve Nuclear Fusion: Helion") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bDXXWQxK38) …and I kind of wonder whether they’re on solid ground or just testing a uncharted road to failure. They’re pretty secretive and obtaining Helium 3 is no bloody joke. Nuclear fusion was a technology that was 30 years in the future at 1976 projected spending. Actual spending has never been above 40% of that figure and often has been closer to 15-20%. And it’s understandable, nobody wants to be the fool that spends 2 billion to build a experimental facility and figure what promising concept doesn’t works… Nobody is the wiser of what is right and what is damn stupid in this uncharted territory. Maybe the future will laugh at our stellarators, or at Helion’s concept… ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 4:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/2521 "2022-12-19T04:48:08Z")
> [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#): > > Personmally I think that we are not een close to create artificla intleligence. First, because we don’t know what intelligence is. We may not know what intelligence is, we may not know how A.I. “paints” so fast so good, but we may know why the hell we dont have our jobs anymore one day. 🤔 I see some results of the work and they are what people 50 years ago would say is possible only in science fiction. Imagine yourself 20 years ago and show yourself the results I showed with that robot heads collage A.I. created for me, saying you just have to write a text of what you want, and A.I. will try its best to generate you what creative art you want, in the style you want. You can then put it on your wall and say its a masterpiece. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042.md?page=123) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042.md?page=125)