# The Like and Get Likes thread III

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042>\
**Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\
**Created:** [November 21, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042 "2020-11-21T16:58:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Princess\_Valloris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/princess_valloris/32/381541_2.png) [@Princess\_Valloris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Princess_Valloris)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3307 "2023-08-10T08:33:26Z")

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> [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#):
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> Well, getting paid 1100 $ a day for 35 days a year is not that much, specially in the USA

Those gigs aren’t meant to substitute a full-time job. The artists and screenwriters at the bottom of the end credits have ( or should have ) another career besides entertainment, or own a business.  
What I’m pointing at is the lack of talent and imagination. Rehashing old stories and mutilating them “for a modern audience” isn’t talent nor imagination and getting paid a 1000 a day for that is good money.  
They also bemoan the advent of A.I and how it threatens their career in the industry. If a writer or artist is so concerned with A.I replacing them then that means there isn’t much talent there to begin with and the box office results of the past few years show how disconnected Hollywood is from the rest of the world.  
In this strike I support the studios. Let’s see a few years of good quality blockbusters then maybe those activi- I mean actors and writers would deserve a raise. It’s that way for any other industry and the film studios are there to make money, not lose millions of dollars due to woke scenarios and actor/activists insulting the very audience for whom the movie is made.

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**Author:** ![Princess\_Valloris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/princess_valloris/32/381541_2.png) [@Princess\_Valloris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Princess_Valloris)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3308 "2023-08-10T08:34:58Z")

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> [@LordOdysseus](#):
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> CCP is giving out free PLEX x 25 in celebration of the latest Alliance Tournament.

Good thing I decided to check the forum or I wouldn’t have known about it.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3309 "2023-08-10T09:04:56Z")

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AI can make many creative jobs as of today, at least good enough. It can also do stuff that actor couldnt, like perfect voice or impersonation on screen. Many people will have to find a new job soon.

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**Author:** ![Princess\_Valloris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/princess_valloris/32/381541_2.png) [@Princess\_Valloris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Princess_Valloris)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3310 "2023-08-10T10:08:10Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> AI can make many creative jobs as of today, at least good enough. It can also do stuff that actor couldnt, like perfect voice or impersonation on screen

Plenty of actors and comedians do perfect impersonations. And I’d like to see A.I try to top Heath Ledger’s performance in The Dark Knight.

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/1/6/916210edb4f343bb1604f12ecbeca72f4a47183b.jpeg "Best Joker Scenes in The Dark Knight | HBO Max") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNLmk7CPtOw)

An A.I will never be able to convey the depth of the human soul on the silver screen or on canvas for the simple reason that A.I has no soul.

> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> Many people will have to find a new job soon

I think the possibilities of A.I are exaggerated and the tendency of spreading hysteria throughout the populace is all too prevalent.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3311 "2023-08-10T17:23:44Z")

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> [@Princess\_Valloris](#):
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> An A.I will never be able to convey the depth of the human soul on the silver screen or on canvas for the simple reason that A.I has no soul.

The soul is already being learned and imitated by AI programs. 😉  
[Voice AI Synthesis Guide](https://rentry.org/AIVoiceStuff) here a small sample

> [@Princess\_Valloris](#):
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> I think the possibilities of A.I are exaggerated and the tendency of spreading hysteria throughout the populace is all too prevalent.

We dont know. We can underestimate it thinking we exaggerate it. 🙃

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**Author:** ![Princess\_Valloris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/princess_valloris/32/381541_2.png) [@Princess\_Valloris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Princess_Valloris)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3312 "2023-08-10T18:27:55Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> The soul is already being learned and imitated by AI programs

It just imitates. It has nothing to convey as an A.I actor, it cannot get into the role of a human being, say, Caesar or Shakespeare and give it it’s own twist based on personal life experiences, emotions or imagination because it doesn’t have any.  
It can write a script but it cannot come up with a story other than what’s been written before and is online. It may be able to combine notions and write a coherent story but anything it could come up with will not be original in the sense of “never thought of before”.  
A.I is a no-brainer 🙂

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3313 "2023-08-10T18:33:23Z")

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You may write that now, but in future that same text can make AI accuse you of horrible discrimination. 😉

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**Author:** ![Princess\_Valloris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/princess_valloris/32/381541_2.png) [@Princess\_Valloris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Princess_Valloris)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3314 "2023-08-10T18:47:45Z")

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I’m trembling in my boots.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3315 "2023-08-10T18:51:37Z")

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In future, when AI will be taking positions from lawyers to overseers of production and to health industry, everything can happen. 😉

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**Author:** ![Princess\_Valloris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/princess_valloris/32/381541_2.png) [@Princess\_Valloris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Princess_Valloris)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3316 "2023-08-10T19:00:58Z")

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We could be turned into compost for a plant-based lifeform genetically engineered to link the A.I with the physical world. Nano bots would polinate the A.I plants and create new ones, adapt to new environments and in millions of years a new species would appear on earth:

 ![i-am-groot-1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/2/8/32830719a17a3d792e5500d06496fab103cc2e68.png)

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3317 "2023-08-10T19:38:31Z")

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If we will not have to use our brain much then it would atrophy with each generation, if we offload all the thinking to AI, we will end up living like trees, in one place, fed and watered by AI with artificial bodies, that would produce themselves. But with time, intelligent or not, we would be turned into compost anyway. 🙃

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3318 "2023-08-10T21:45:45Z")

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Time to go to sleep. Nighties lovelies!

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3319 "2023-08-11T07:01:33Z")

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He is coming over is all I wish to share and I”m not drinking too much alcohol tonight!

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**Author:** ![LordOdysseus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lordodysseus/32/422627_2.png) [@LordOdysseus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LordOdysseus)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3320 "2023-08-11T15:34:11Z")

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[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/a/c/fac138205a2c56a16575b7648ee6ecbf19c4f91a.jpeg "Nelson Mandela impression by Trevor Noah") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2ox8k0pvLU)

Timezone lovelies. ❤

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3321 "2023-08-11T22:11:12Z")

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amazing how much you can take with you on bicycle

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3322 "2023-08-11T22:29:45Z")

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Time to go to sleep… and forget about Lk-99. Nighties lovelies!

Also: I wondered how long would take for Thunderf00t to do his take…

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/a/c/0ac124228d21d5b49d9f2f234ead76e599212416.jpeg "LK-99 BUSTED!!!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3hubvTsf3Y)

…but the wait was worth it. Cheap liquid nitrogen temperature “high temperature” superconductors already exist and have existed for 30+ years. The problem is that they are useless and when you need useful superconductors you go for the bloody expensive liquid helium temperature superconductors which are made of metal. Not a metal phosphate which has all the amazing mechanical properties of your teeth (lead phosphate isn’t all that much different from calcium phosphate, just it’s heavier and toxic). Can you make a wire out of your teeth? And the thing is, you can’t have metallic high temperature superconductors. That’s not how reality works. If it’s a metal and it’s at non-liquid helium temperatures, it can not be superconductive. And the stuff that becomes superconductive at liquid nitrogen temperature are metals doped with other stuff that prevents them from behaving like metal and rather crystalizes them into ceramics.

Really, watch the video. He completely and totally murders the topic without even looking much at Lk-99. But then, Thunderf00t (Phil Mason) is a professional researcher in nuclear chemistry and he just happened to get his graduate working with high temperature superconductors back in 1995-97.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3323 "2023-08-11T22:53:15Z")

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Hmm, I would really like something usefull this time tho.

If not, well, nothing changes… 😕

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**Author:** ![Ian\_Morbius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ian_morbius/32/476592_2.png) [@Ian\_Morbius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ian_Morbius)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2023, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3324 "2023-08-12T18:55:55Z")

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[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/7/3/87385f31af338bc0d7a3d30be2a84b314effa7b0.jpeg "When you skip through important dialogue") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zzNDdUWf8Y)

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/d/3/ed30bee8664588d55d4564eec39701b0136d60ab.jpeg "Moira Brown Says Hi to Herself? - Hidden Dialogue") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFQAwcQ6aBA)

TikTok aren’t the thing. They’re the thing that gets us to the thing… nah.

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/b/8/3b8e2d47ca12625e3468de99a99169aa5840134d.jpeg "TikTok NPC's Are Taking Over") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2dv6E55oho)

(12:45)

> **[They act like video game characters on TikTok. It nets $200 an hour.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2023/08/12/tiktok-npc-trend-streaming/)**
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> In a new social media trend, TikTok viewers are paying creators to mimic the non-player characters in video games.

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**Author:** ![Sienna\_Massilia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_massilia/32/390388_2.png) [@Sienna\_Massilia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Massilia)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2023, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3325 "2023-08-13T21:38:38Z")

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> [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#):
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> Really, watch the video. He completely and totally murders the topic without even looking much at Lk-99

I love _DEBUNKED!_ videos. Last series I watched was on Common Sense Skeptic channel. He goes by the numbers on outlandish claims, literally.

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2023, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3326 "2023-08-13T22:13:11Z")

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I also watch Common Sense Skeptic, just not as regularly as Thunderf00t. I’ve always loved debunking stories and learning how to use critical thinking. It saves a lot of disappointment in the long run and preserves the sense of awe when something is really amazing. Keeping that abbility to feel awe is a bonus when we grow old, IMO, and it’s good to not have it spoiled by endless rows of snake oil sellers.

And now I’m going to bed, to get some sleep and midly interested to know who will make it first to the lunar south pole, the Indian probe or the Russian one, and wishing good luck to both teams. Sending robots to other worlds is never an easy job and to many scientists it may be half of their career, since they involve themselves on the initial plans and until they’re done analyzing their data from the instruments. Easily takes 15 to 20 years, with the threat that it all might vanish in an instant…

Nighties lovelies!

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