# The Like and Get Likes thread III

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042>\
**Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\
**Created:** [November 21, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042 "2020-11-21T16:58:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3971 "2024-02-24T07:33:06Z")

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Back in 2008, I lost my first Battleship to a mission where the NPCs had whatever module is that prevents warping away, and EVE Online, always so helpful, just said “external factors prevent warping” or some other nonsense which kept me wondering whether I had stepped into a unknown to me type of space where warp was not allowed. The Battleship was a poorly fit, barely skilled up Megathron and I sat there trying to run away from the mysterious “external factors” and warp out as the NPCs chewed its carp tank (single medium armor repair, wee!) and killed it.

And then I almost quit and eventually rolled a fresh start called Ishtanchuk and used all my superknowledge to pick lasers + shields and forget about armor tanks.

So yes, some NPCs were (and guess they still are) quite deadly for new players, specially without a mission survival guide… Which btw I recall it was shut down but Chribba hosted a copy or something…? Are mission runners still a thing or have Nullsec and CCP successfully ejected them out of their game?

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**Author:** ![Sarah\_Olson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sarah_olson/32/377582_2.png) [@Sarah\_Olson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sarah_Olson)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3972 "2024-02-24T07:38:45Z")

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> [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#):
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> Are mission runners still a thing or have Nullsec and CCP successfully ejected them out of their game?

There are still a lot of people running missions, the SOE and Caldari Navy are still popular but now a days there are more profitable activities to do in high sec. I myself only run the Epic arcs for standings as missions lost their charm for me a long time ago.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3973 "2024-02-24T14:23:54Z")

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> [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#):
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> specially without a mission survival guide

[Eve-survival.org](http://Eve-survival.org) still exists. Not sure when its been updated.  
Eve wiki also has an up to date mission section as well.

> [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#):
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> Are mission runners still a thing

We still exist, plus you got the USIA running missions and fixing standings for everyone.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3974 "2024-02-24T14:36:25Z")

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Sorry to butt in though may I ask would that happen to be the United Standing Improvement Agency?

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3975 "2024-02-24T14:37:51Z")

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That is correct

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3976 "2024-02-24T17:09:30Z")

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[https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/A\_Force\_to\_be\_Reckoned\_with\_(Angel\_Cartel)](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/A_Force_to_be_Reckoned_with_(Angel_Cartel))  
Its lvl 3 mission and the ship is designed as npc enemy for battlecruisers rather than cruisers. Lvl 3 mission.

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3977 "2024-02-24T22:43:44Z")

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Is that USIA thing a legit CCP mechanic or a player-made imaginative twist on game rules? 🤔

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 1:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3978 "2024-02-25T01:19:50Z")

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We are within the rules that ccp allows. They allow faction standings to be shared as well as corp standings. So we follow their mechanics

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**Author:** ![LordOdysseus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lordodysseus/32/422627_2.png) [@LordOdysseus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LordOdysseus)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 6:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3979 "2024-02-25T06:08:27Z")

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> [@Sarah\_Olson](#):
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> There are still a lot of people running missions

I’ve heard that the Golem is still the best ship to run Level 4 missions with. Is that true?

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3980 "2024-02-25T08:14:52Z")

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That is subjective and depends on your goal. Ie… clearing the whole pocket vs blitzing.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3981 "2024-02-25T14:15:43Z")

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![1708840615273215](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/9/0/790cdb68b2c3d20369619da0a45cd2cbb28f3e90.png)

Who (or rather what) will replace these people?

 ![1708806967922131](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/8/8/38852e053f64620aabe8b84b98998cd96e21d8a6.jpeg)

🤔  
Every task can be created faster with more computing power. The methods can be improved. Quality may be enough for majority of people. So people would have to become consumers mostly, without actually creating much.

How many objects of art are around your house? These can be 3d printed now, and 3d models created from images. Not to proper quality yet, but looking how the technology improves, its a question of time.

What would be left for people to do? Operate power feeding tubes connected to artificial brains, and those suppying nutrition for people gathered outside, where they are kept drugged, satiated and lazy?

I have been reading lots of sci-fi in school, and Matrix movie wasnt of course first in creating such a world, such a story. Idea was thrown around many times before. It doesnt have to be in its most radical forms, but the fundamental idea is that people have to be kept pretty sedated.

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**Author:** ![Sarah\_Olson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sarah_olson/32/377582_2.png) [@Sarah\_Olson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sarah_Olson)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3982 "2024-02-25T16:17:12Z")

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Honestly, I’m all for automation of everything. As soon as we have machines and AI that can do all the menial jobs out there, then there won’t be much of a need for people to work.

Maybe then we can finally get a universal income for everyone and people will be free to spend time chasing their passions rather than spending the majority of their life laboring away in some 9-5.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3983 "2024-02-25T18:20:24Z")

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My RL job could never be fully automated. Thats a good thing

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3984 "2024-02-25T23:03:08Z")

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The thing is, the only reason the 1% tolerates people it’s because they still can’t earn enough money without human consumers. What’s the point in feeding people for free if they don’t have money to transfer into your accounts? The economical value of a freeloader is zero. So, congratulations! Your job is over! Now go die somewhere where your rotting carcass doesn’t bothers the people actually relevant.

And anyway… we’re in deep trouble with global warming, and it’s just beginning as far as its impact in human history goes. Same for peak-everything (peak oil, peak minerals). Our global economy is devoted to pretend that debt is payable as we actually destroy value (read that again… _we’ve been destroying value since the 1980s_) and Total Factor Productivity has been going down since the debt bubble started.

Whatever comes next will be yet another unprecedented crisis, even if we dodge the bullet of the AMOC (Atlantic Meridional Oceanic Circulation) shutting down and rendering northern Europe about as ihnabitable as northern Canada but without the snowfall.

But oh yes. Some people are becoming rich as their fake AI pretends to be creating art and everybody is happy with the massive waste of CO2 and water involved in the moving parts of AI, the numbercruncher computing farms.

There are so many things already going wrong and so many still could go even wronger… but now I’m off to sleep. Nighties lovelies!

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2024, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3985 "2024-02-26T03:54:56Z")

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I’m not particularly sure what the discussion is for today though I had read something about tolerance I think and not that it matters much though I am happy with my small achievement year to date my average is down to 12.2 mg per day.

They use robots to make the best beers that allows more people to consume the beers.

.😕

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**Author:** ![LordOdysseus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lordodysseus/32/422627_2.png) [@LordOdysseus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LordOdysseus)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2024, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3986 "2024-02-26T16:21:54Z")

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Happy Birthday Steve Jobs

San Francisco is where he arrived  
Where the Golden State Warriors have thrived  
As the best in their sport  
On the basketball court  
In the town where they filmed Ironside

As a youth in his teens it was clear  
That the course he was destined to steer  
Would involve innovation  
And visualization  
In what was a brilliant career

In the world of computers he shone  
Many talented people were drawn  
To his digital knack  
He gave birth to the Mac  
One of many great products he spawned

As co-founder and Chairman of Apple  
Mr. Jobs had to frequently grapple  
With big headaches galore  
In locations offshore  
And at home, from New York to Seattle

Steve departed this world far too soon  
As a rich and successful tycoon  
But the business he nourished  
Continues to flourish  
Despite all today’s gloom and doom

So let’s wish Happy Birthday to Steve  
Who had many great tricks up his sleeve  
Until dying too soon  
Like Dan Blocker, Keith Moon,  
Robin Williams and Christopher Reeve

-Author unknown (I found it on zucky’s blue website)

> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#):
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> That is subjective and depends on your goal. Ie… clearing the whole pocket vs blitzing.

Why not both? I used to do both in an Apoc…more than a decade ago.

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**Author:** ![LordOdysseus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lordodysseus/32/422627_2.png) [@LordOdysseus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LordOdysseus)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2024, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3987 "2024-02-26T17:05:10Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/a/7/ba72da38b4259f0e54675ed1cda7e2a345afd774.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3988 "2024-02-26T18:06:46Z")

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@Sarah_Olson  
@Yiole_Gionglao  
Humans will be treated like pets. Some will be able to reproduce. The freedoms will be redistributed and euthanasia will be how people will be usually dying.

A.I. will be the one keeping us as pets. We are already very domesticated and not very wild anyway.

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2024, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3989 "2024-02-26T23:00:11Z")

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Time to go to sleep… preferably if I get some actual sleep, dunno what happene last night but what a sleepless mess… 😪

Also: is this becoming a custom…?

First the Japanese (real image)…

![SLIMporLEV2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/4/e/64eaf3cfc851e9b8dd3f78dc7f96f1c2aa1266b6.webp)

…now the USA (artistic impression)…

> <https://twitter.com/pascalleetweets/status/1761275086567551019>

Moon landers ending upside down or tipping over, 2 and counting…

There was a time you weren’t sending probes to Mars for true unless at least one in three crashed/exploded/lost contact, now Moon landers are landing in whatever position but upright -when they aren’t lithobraking…

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**Author:** ![LordOdysseus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lordodysseus/32/422627_2.png) [@LordOdysseus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LordOdysseus)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iii/281042/3990 "2024-02-27T06:18:20Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> Humans will be treated like pets. Some will be able to reproduce. The freedoms will be redistributed and euthanasia will be how people will be usually dying.
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> A.I. will be the one keeping us as pets. We are already very domesticated and not very wild anyway.

The sedentary people who intoxicate themselves with video games, TV and streaming services is my prediction to end up like that. But others who live life consciously are going to have an easier life and the whole world is going to lay down infront of them like a red carpet.

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