# The Like and Get Likes Thread IV

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iv/465437>\
**Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\
**Created:** [October 22, 2024, 5:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iv/465437 "2024-10-22T05:38:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2026, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iv/465437/6063 "2026-07-07T08:43:18Z")

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2026, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iv/465437/6064 "2026-07-07T08:56:55Z")

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Sweetie - she was joking

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2026, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iv/465437/6065 "2026-07-07T19:14:27Z")

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“Perfect” as in “meeting the bare minimum instructed”… then failing 62 times… and the 63rd being OK’ed out of tiredness. Making specific looking people react in specific ways while wearing specific clothes in a generic environment shouldn’t be that difficult but it is… even the part with the jerseys looking like they’re worn by women, not men, with the corresponding curves.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2026, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iv/465437/6066 "2026-07-07T19:58:03Z")

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The issue is that the ‘AI’ is not actually thinking - what it is doing is generating a probabilistic version which inevitably drifts away from what you asked. It can generate some interesting stuff, by random chance, but it will never really create what you want.

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2026, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iv/465437/6067 "2026-07-07T21:13:51Z")

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Yes, I know that’s how it works, they’re just stochastic speculators, but even then I kind of expected that nothing I asked was too unusual and the model had a good training with it. I will keep things simpler in the future, the more elements in a prompt, the higher the chances that AI fails even when the prompts are improved by AI in order to be easier to manage by AI…

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2026, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iv/465437/6068 "2026-07-07T22:15:58Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> it will never really create what you want

It is impossible with humans too, just using words alone. Imagine people have their own ideas how something should look, especially when not described in detail. Some even think their ideas are better than what was provided to them.

Maybe we are all just a probability, maybe we are already a solved probability also. I feel like it is solved, honestly.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2026, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iv/465437/6069 "2026-07-07T22:55:53Z")

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My ideas are the best!

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 2:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iv/465437/6070 "2026-07-08T02:42:50Z")

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And I’m just here with my popcorn,

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/3/8/738dc9b519643dac1f771986b69f3681523dd2ee.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 5:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iv/465437/6071 "2026-07-08T05:03:23Z")

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iv/465437/6072 "2026-07-08T05:50:48Z")

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After trying to add another of my chars to the “detailed prompting” and seeing Nano Banana fail miserably to capture her complexion and do a iffy job about most of her face features, I’ve decided that getting AI to make my chars look like themselves is above my effort range.

I don’t need those images that bad, and I’ve not even tried getting an AI to do something really original like my own imagery.

AI is a niche tool, with a very small and essentially worthless niche to fit in.

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iv/465437/6073 "2026-07-08T19:46:32Z")

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I hate AI. Does AI hate me?

 ![You gotta be kidding me, aren't you?](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/1/a/e1af426c2c78ddb6f14d876b9b6d5be0debe0dfa.jpeg)

Yes, Ish is not holding a fan of cards. Guess who forgot to rewrite that instruction…

 ![YOU FUKKING SERIOUS OR WHAT??](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/c/9/5c9b750828e4824d4f4d666261105b3c2c3b46c3.jpeg)

Seriously, why are oversized comic characters so much easier to do than real ones…?

I’ll need time in my thinking corner.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2026, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iv/465437/6074 "2026-07-09T00:24:21Z")

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> [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#):
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> I’ll need time in my thinking corner.

Take your time.

Look at how hard even today it is to learn this game. I hate AI only because I watch a lot of history, but AI is never as accurate as a human dissecting it. AI in that context generalizes it and does not research back far enough, hence not making as accurate as it could be.

AI art is a different story. Look at what Zaera does with art, always working to improve. Learning small new tricks along the way. Look at what Aiko does with music. Some of which to me anyway, it should be background music in some scenarios in the game itself!

I busted your butt in the past, but you explained to me so well what you were trying to do that now all I can do is try to encourage you to continue.

Take your time, just don’t give up!

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2026, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iv/465437/6075 "2026-07-09T01:12:26Z")

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They are in a small room.

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2026, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iv/465437/6076 "2026-07-09T19:32:02Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> They are in a small room.

My guess is that when generating the comic it defaulted to a symmetric composition of the walls and characters. Although hotel rooms in Venetian palazzos aren’t known for their dimensions, they usually have walking room around the beds… But the characters look good and Yiole is properly towering above the Fazmarai cousins (160 vs 165 vs 196 cm), something the realistic images failed to do.

Now I’ll be thinking about using comic as a medium for images…

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2026, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iv/465437/6077 "2026-07-10T06:40:24Z")

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![d42d30ff-9ad3-44d8-91d9-bdf67f4ac682](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/6/9/9693411da3a4ee96364e07a92bcbfbaf1a16668c.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2026, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iv/465437/6078 "2026-07-10T07:37:11Z")

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2026, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iv/465437/6079 "2026-07-10T08:34:11Z")

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Get your Zaera

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/4/f/c4f8cfd7c0b49db2b5d1e5575295d23100e0fa4e.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2026, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iv/465437/6080 "2026-07-10T21:55:37Z")

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Time to go to sleep… night night lovelies!

Also: it was a different time…

 ![1890-1905](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/d/a/2da026a2b87803e1db01a63b5eccf27abe7d51af.jpeg)

Photograph: orphaned children in the street, London, 1890 or 1905.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2026, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iv/465437/6081 "2026-07-10T22:13:53Z")

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What’s the price for my very own Zaera Keena? Got to be way more than just 1 bil. 😆

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2026, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread-iv/465437/6082 "2026-07-11T21:58:42Z")

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Frankly, the less you ask from AI, the better the outcome… just let it fill the gaps. My first shot at introducing the B team (that would be Lea-Marie and the Fock sisters) has turned quite well. It reeks of photo shoot because everyone defaults to looking at the camera unless otherwise instructed but seriously… don’t they look awesome? As if someone had searched for a) what Caribbean island acts as trend setter and b) based on current trends, what outfits wold suit better to three women of different physique and complexion and c) hand picked of the different options those that looked more promising on text?

And then just gathered all in a prompt and…

 ![A completely staged realistic first test shot of the B team](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/8/4/3849cddaa3b05cd69dda21a590159d19ec5789cc.jpeg)

The Fock sisters look fine and Lea-Marie is astounding but… well… as per lore, she’s a retired child soldier and shouldn’t have that sense of fashion, seriously.

Anyway I’m very pleased with how this test shot captured the physical dynamic of the Focks: Matilda C. is taller, slender and darker, whereas Cecilia M. is tall but not as much as her sister, certainly curvier and has a feature hard to notice here: striking amber-gold eyes and a tendency to freckles.

And now I’m off to bed. Tomorrow I will completely spoil the image with crazy requests like have the girls looking at the kitty and will ponder what to do with Lea-Marie’s outfit.

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