# The like and get likes thread

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802>\
**Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\
**Created:** [June 20, 2017, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802 "2017-06-20T14:25:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/7712 "2017-10-01T20:14:28Z")

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Yes I am safe, trouble it’s been for those blocking the poll stations and defending the ballot boxes… all of them in favor of “Yes” and all in my family have voted “No” to independence. It’s a complex situation because “Yes” are in a organized minority and the majority of population either doesn’t wants or doesn’t cares about independence… it’s about 40/60 but the 60 are not organized in any way. Thus the only campaign has been for “Yes” as there hasn’t been a campaign for “No”… among many irregularities.

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**Author:** ![Omega\_Jovakko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/omega_jovakko/32/147718_2.png) [@Omega\_Jovakko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Omega_Jovakko)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/7713 "2017-10-01T20:18:12Z")

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Wow, at work we’re monitoring international events, and that came up. it looks like sheer chaos. At least you’re ok.

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**Author:** ![Rowdy\_Ronny](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rowdy_ronny/32/11231_2.png) [@Rowdy\_Ronny](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rowdy_Ronny)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/7714 "2017-10-01T21:07:28Z")

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> [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#):
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> They want a cake

> [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#):
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> why why why don’t give them what they want, WHYYY???

Someone else wants it too. Also, lots of “tourists” over there… “Be wary of foreigners who come to your lands claiming you’ll be stronger alone.” I know _they_ are over there doing their thing.

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/7715 "2017-10-01T21:12:29Z")

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What a long exausting day… I’m off to bed. Nighties lovelies!

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/2X/9/91ccf020515ff9ca830eda6e991c09f6c32844e0.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Omega\_Jovakko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/omega_jovakko/32/147718_2.png) [@Omega\_Jovakko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Omega_Jovakko)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/7716 "2017-10-01T21:18:07Z")

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Night beautiful.

I’ve been talking with some friends lately, I’m starting my career as a filmmaker and have a whole superhero universe I want to make, but my issue is the genre is oversaturated, and I’ve had a huge issue modern superhero films (even though I still freaking pay to see them, ugh)

one of my friends is a writer and she worked with me on determining what my issue with those films are, the characters and it helped me realize what I wanted to do. It worked super well for another filmmaker, so it should logically pan out. I still want to write crime thrillers though, even though I suck at writing crime lol.

I did turn into a private detective for a day though, I was shocked at how much I found out. I found out my sister was sued by the community development manager of a nearby city for a false injury, he got nothing out of it and actually got divorced shortly after. He was married within a year but I now know who he is MUAHAHAHA

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/7717 "2017-10-01T21:43:13Z")

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Its funny how it flails its arms. Like a child that learns walking.  
Maybe if we would evolve again from zero, we would flail arms this way while running and that would be considered normal? 🤔

Nini. 😘

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**Author:** ![Omega\_Jovakko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/omega_jovakko/32/147718_2.png) [@Omega\_Jovakko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Omega_Jovakko)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/7718 "2017-10-01T22:09:26Z")

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I love that video a lot, it’s pretty awesome to see how fast it learns

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**Author:** ![Rowdy\_Ronny](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rowdy_ronny/32/11231_2.png) [@Rowdy\_Ronny](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rowdy_Ronny)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/7719 "2017-10-01T22:51:03Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> would be considered normal?

No.

It’s typical AI, the flailing of arms which is ‘learned’ from probably the “balance analysis routine” but it will never improve from that. On occasion it will break out of that node [edit: typical is _repeat_ of “bad solution” classified as “good solution” by the AI]. However rarely it will select something different random that might be even worse. AI is always limited to the observation values. No computer program will think, but will simulate thinking. The only way AI will be something is when most of us are becoming extremely retarded, then AI might be on par with humans for menial tasks, and even then it lacks a lot that can’t be possible done within the first thousand years as we are limited to the current technology (input, storage, processing).

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**Author:** ![Omega\_Jovakko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/omega_jovakko/32/147718_2.png) [@Omega\_Jovakko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Omega_Jovakko)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/7720 "2017-10-01T22:53:53Z")

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> [@Rowdy\_Ronny](#):
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> It’s typical AI, the flailing of arms which is ‘learned’ from probably the “balance analysis routine” but it will never improve from that. On occasion it will break out of that node [edit: typical is repeat of “bad solution” classified as “good solution” by the AI]. However rarely it will select something different random that might be even worse. AI is always limited to the observation values. No computer program will think, but will simulate thinking. The only way AI will be something is when most of us are becoming extremely retarded, then AI might be on par with humans for menial tasks, and even then it lacks a lot that can’t be possible done within the first thousand years as we are limited to the current technology (input, storage, processing).

are you secretly mr. robot?

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**Author:** ![Rowdy\_Ronny](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rowdy_ronny/32/11231_2.png) [@Rowdy\_Ronny](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rowdy_Ronny)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/7721 "2017-10-01T22:56:14Z")

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> [@Omega\_Jovakko](#):
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> are you secretly mr. robot?

No.

PS: And i’m also not “Miss Robot”, the one you can feel from the inside. 😉

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**Author:** ![Arcanith\_Lionheart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcanith_lionheart/32/218531_2.png) [@Arcanith\_Lionheart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcanith_Lionheart)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/7722 "2017-10-02T00:25:17Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/8/78ba05f6f1c6cba487c4c3c4e175ec933372aacb.gif)

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/7723 "2017-10-02T06:29:01Z")

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Timezone o/

Apparently it works for AI and it doesnt have bad or good on its mind, just what works. That can be a warning. AI can do what works, even if its considered bad by humans. So I think that psychopathy or sociopathy would be a real danger when it comes to highly advanced AI patterns. Some AI learning a bad language? Check. AI learning that you have to eliminate opponent to take his possesions? Check. AI learning that humans are obsolete, only consuming resources that could be used for AI? Check?

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/7724 "2017-10-02T06:33:07Z")

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Looks like thats where demoscene went after all those years. 😂👌

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/7725 "2017-10-02T06:44:00Z")

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AI hasn’t been taught to carry stuff in its arms, nor cares about how tiring is to flail your arms for balance. It is just solving the problem that it’s been tasked with: use your sensors, legs and arms to go from A to B. Probably they could add extra decission nodes to simulate energy proficency, or account for the torso as a mean to keep balance.

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**Author:** ![Arcanith\_Lionheart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcanith_lionheart/32/218531_2.png) [@Arcanith\_Lionheart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcanith_Lionheart)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/7726 "2017-10-02T07:33:53Z")

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Whats this? one night has passed and not a single “Features and Ideas” thread thats new to possibly faceplant at how bad the idea is most of the time?

I must be dreaming!

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**Author:** ![Linus\_Gorp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/linus_gorp/32/317333_2.png) [@Linus\_Gorp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Linus_Gorp)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/7727 "2017-10-02T08:02:56Z")

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> [@Arcanith\_Lionheart](#):
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> Whats this? one night has passed and not a single “Features and Ideas” thread thats new to possibly faceplant at how bad the idea is most of the time?

Maybe they finally caught on to how stupid they are. But I suppose that’s nothing but wishful thinking.

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**Author:** ![Linus\_Gorp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/linus_gorp/32/317333_2.png) [@Linus\_Gorp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Linus_Gorp)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/7728 "2017-10-02T08:15:11Z")

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> [@Rowdy\_Ronny](#):
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> It’s typical AI, the flailing of arms which is ‘learned’ from probably the “balance analysis routine” but it will never improve from that. On occasion it will break out of that node [edit: typical is repeat of “bad solution” classified as “good solution” by the AI]. However rarely it will select something different random that might be even worse. AI is always limited to the observation values. No computer program will think, but will simulate thinking. The only way AI will be something is when most of us are becoming extremely retarded, then AI might be on par with humans for menial tasks, and even then it lacks a lot that can’t be possible done within the first thousand years as we are limited to the current technology (input, storage, processing).

“Every man takes the limits of his own field of vision for the limits of the world.” - Arthur Schopenhauer.

> [@Rowdy\_Ronny](#):
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> It’s typical AI, the flailing of arms which is ‘learned’ from probably the “balance analysis routine” but it will never improve from that. On occasion it will break out of that node [edit: typical is repeat of “bad solution” classified as “good solution” by the AI]. However rarely it will select something different random that might be even worse.

It is given a simple instruction without further constraints (e.g. fatigue) and then works from there. It is a simplified scenario, not one that reflects reality. Change the parameters and the AI will adapt.

> [@Rowdy\_Ronny](#):
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> AI is always limited to the observation values.

That’s just plain wrong.

> [@Rowdy\_Ronny](#):
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> No computer program will think, but will simulate thinking.

I would argue that any biological creature with a brain is no different from that.

> [@Rowdy\_Ronny](#):
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> The only way AI will be something is when most of us are becoming extremely retarded

Already the case.

> [@Rowdy\_Ronny](#):
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> and even then it lacks a lot that can’t be possible done within the first thousand years as we are limited to the current technology (input, storage, processing).

1. This is so far removed from actual reality that the only possible answer I could give to that is: Why the ■■■■ are you talking about things you obviously don’t understand absolutely anything about?
2. See my Schopenhauer quote above.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/7729 "2017-10-02T08:51:48Z")

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👌  
 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/f/ff1307f8511ee5e62f945c04514776294ce8977f.jpg)  
Prepare for The Singularity.

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**Author:** ![Linus\_Gorp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/linus_gorp/32/317333_2.png) [@Linus\_Gorp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Linus_Gorp)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/7730 "2017-10-02T09:16:10Z")

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Are you making fun of me?

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**Author:** ![Linus\_Gorp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/linus_gorp/32/317333_2.png) [@Linus\_Gorp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Linus_Gorp)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/7731 "2017-10-02T09:33:04Z")

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> **[Badger or Bulbasaur - have children lost touch with nature?](https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/sep/30/robert-macfarlane-lost-words-children-nature)**
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> Studies show that children are better at identifying Pokémon characters than real animals and plants. Robert Macfarlane on his quest to reconnect young readers with the natural world

Who of you can figure out _why_ that is a huge problem? Bonus points if you’re a city dweller.

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