# The like and get likes thread

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802>\
**Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\
**Created:** [June 20, 2017, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802 "2017-06-20T14:25:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/12389 "2018-03-12T08:02:01Z")

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> [@Linus\_Gorp](#):
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> x86

This is their company product profile, not market monopoly. AMD makes x86 processors too. So it did not monopolize whole market. As for the things Intel is doing, its all still allowed until found illegal. Despite this, and exploiting Intel mistakes, competition of Intel makes effort to gather more share of the market. So now Intel have to come up with something better.

What you are not liking seems to be “unfair” competition.

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**Author:** ![Linus\_Gorp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/linus_gorp/32/317333_2.png) [@Linus\_Gorp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Linus_Gorp)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/12390 "2018-03-12T08:18:06Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> What you are not liking seems to be “unfair” competition.

What I don’t like is abusive monopolies, pretty much the only thing coming out of the US.  
Also, Intel is just a scumbag company. They deserve to take a hit once in a while to spur them into action. They missed opportunity after opportunity to jump into new markets, diversifying their portfolio. But I suppose those new markets didn’t provide the 65% gross margins they’re making on x86 chips.

Meltdown should have had some serious consequences for them, the same as IME definitely should have. But it doesn’t, because they’re a monopoly without any meaningful competition. You literally can’t take your money somewhere else. The biggest hardware security issue _ever_, that only existed in the first place because Intel deliberately ignored security for the sake of better benchmark performance, is going to provide them with **record profits**.

Intel isn’t fighting for its survival here, it’s fighting to keep the dominant and abusive monopoly position they have. Literally the only one profiting from that is Intel. Everyone else is better off when they have competition.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/12391 "2018-03-12T08:26:05Z")

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Having AMD in my PC I think that Intel have to try harder doing their pocessors, and that they are far from winning anything with me. Because AMD wins for me. 😌

Cant tell that for many other people tho. 🤷‍♀️

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**Author:** ![Linus\_Gorp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/linus_gorp/32/317333_2.png) [@Linus\_Gorp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Linus_Gorp)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/12392 "2018-03-12T08:33:54Z")

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Server and corporation costumers is where most of they money is at. Especially servers and that’s where Intel is the most dominant.

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**Author:** ![LordOdysseus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lordodysseus/32/422627_2.png) [@LordOdysseus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LordOdysseus)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/12393 "2018-03-12T10:53:38Z")

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Totally unrelated to the current discussion: How long is a piece of string?

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/12394 "2018-03-12T11:07:12Z")

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Slightly longer than a piece of lag. 🕶

What a drunk!

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**Author:** ![Linus\_Gorp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/linus_gorp/32/317333_2.png) [@Linus\_Gorp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Linus_Gorp)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/12395 "2018-03-12T11:51:44Z")

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[https://opkode.com/blog/slacks-bait-and-switch/](https://opkode.com/blog/slacks-bait-and-switch/)

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**Author:** ![Linus\_Gorp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/linus_gorp/32/317333_2.png) [@Linus\_Gorp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Linus_Gorp)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/12396 "2018-03-12T11:53:31Z")

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> **[UK Researchers First to Produce High Grade Rare Earths From Coal](https://uknow.uky.edu/research/uk-researchers-first-produce-high-grade-rare-earths-coal)**
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> UK researchers have produced nearly pure rare earth concentrates from Kentucky coal using an environmentally-conscious and cost-effective process, a groundbreaking accomplishment in the energy industry.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/12397 "2018-03-12T12:31:33Z")

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> Unfortunately XMPP clients have been lagging far behind in various respects.
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> One of the main problems is funding. The modern digital economy is largely set up around surveillance capitalism and user lock-in.
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> So attempts to create software that doesn’t follow these precepts, often end up unfunded or underfunded.

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/9/c99bd1e3a0d98f61310739738910b9b6a024c1f6.jpg)  
😂

> **[Best chat apps for 2021](https://www.tomsguide.com/best-picks/best-chat-apps)**
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> The best chat apps for mobile let you send texts, share photos and even make video calls

All are free. Customers dont have to spend a dime on the software, so they just install new “better” or more widely used.

> **[Most popular messaging apps 2023 | Statista](https://www.statista.com/statistics/258749/most-popular-global-mobile-messenger-apps/)**
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> As of January 2023, approximately two billion users were accessing Meta's WhatsApp messenger on a monthly basis.

Competition have money for development because they have revenues from other sources. That is the way to go with XMPP client, of course it would have to be the best client, best team. One XMPP client to rule all chats. 😈

Only to what other mass used product it could be tied by development? 🤔  
🤷‍♀️

EVE client? 😉

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/516090_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/12398 "2018-03-12T13:52:21Z")

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Randomness plays a large role. A talented person can not create the opportunities, even less than a non-talented person could profit from them.

One of the beauties of the social protection pograms in Europe is that they put a hard cap to how low can sink a person’s fortune, so random events have elss damaging consequences than they would have otherwise. And by preventing how low can a person sink, they make it easier to get back on their feet.

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/516090_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/12399 "2018-03-12T13:57:23Z")

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Children, don’t drink and hop! 🤣

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/12400 "2018-03-12T13:59:42Z")

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So its like equalling the chances. Still I see many poor people that would not go to get help, because nobody would take them if they drink alcohol like some thirsty dragons. And they drink because they are so low.

But there is always a solution (not alcohol).

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/516090_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/12401 "2018-03-12T14:02:49Z")

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I know it’s a bait question, but here’s an answer: a string is as long as the continuous line in the center of the string that links both ends of it.

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/516090_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/12402 "2018-03-12T14:13:54Z")

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Well, those are extreme cases, but even then, with enough resources there’s social programs to help that people. Of course those resources essentially are pocketed out of the lucky people who think they got rich because of their skills alone (the well known survivor bias) and thus they feel their situation is a reward for hard work and conversely poverty is a punishment for laziness.

People just hate to think that their fortune is not in their hands, no matter how hard the reality hits that misconception.

This is one of the reasons why strict meritocracy is bull. Wishfully, meritocracy will reward merit, but in no way the lack of reward correlates directly to just lack of personal merit. FAI, a talented child can be born in a bad family and as long as his opportunities depend on the merits of the family, he’s 99% bummed.

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/516090_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/12403 "2018-03-12T14:24:45Z")

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Meanwhile, from the series “it’s not easy being robot”…

> **[Humans slapped and shouted at robot cars in two of six DMV crash reports this...](https://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-human-attacks-robot-cars-20180305-story.html)**
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> The human response to possible takeover by robot overlords is off to a troubling start.

😄

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**Author:** ![Linus\_Gorp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/linus_gorp/32/317333_2.png) [@Linus\_Gorp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Linus_Gorp)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/12404 "2018-03-12T18:26:26Z")

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> **[Why the Dark Energy Problem Spawned the Multiverse Hypothesis | Quanta Magazine](https://www.quantamagazine.org/why-the-dark-energy-problem-spawned-the-multiverse-hypothesis-20180312/)**
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> The amount of energy infusing empty space seems too small to explain without a multiverse. But physicists have at least one alternative left to explore.

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**Author:** ![LordOdysseus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lordodysseus/32/422627_2.png) [@LordOdysseus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LordOdysseus)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/12405 "2018-03-12T18:49:40Z")

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> It’s worth mentioning that the work hasn’t yet been peer-reviewed, so we can’t take too many general conclusions from it until it’s been more rigorously analysed.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/12406 "2018-03-12T18:53:55Z")

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I think its not 100% correct, its just science of course, not some dogma from authoritarian system of oppresion. 😅

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/12407 "2018-03-12T19:11:43Z")

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[![](https://img2.tiancitycdn.com/cnews/image/20180212/27/ChinaGreeting%201%5B00_03_14%5D%5B20180212-173229-5%5D.BMP) ](https://img2.tiancitycdn.com/cnews/image/20180212/27/ChinaGreeting%201%5B00_03_14%5D%5B20180212-173229-5%5D.BMP)  
😱Hilmar looks tortured. What did these chinese done to him?

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/516090_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-like-and-get-likes-thread/3802/12408 "2018-03-12T20:33:07Z")

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Houm… Sunburn? Severe alergy? Sunburn caused by undocking at Amarr not wearing sunscreen?

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