# The Minerals I mine are free mentality **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 28, 2020, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-minerals-i-mine-are-free-mentality/270090 "2020-09-28T09:43:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Rich\_Darine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rich_darine/32/438327_2.png) [@Rich\_Darine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rich_Darine)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-minerals-i-mine-are-free-mentality/270090/42 "2020-09-28T18:25:17Z")
Threads like this are like the base of the food pyramid where we need like 6-11 of these at the same time where we argue over who’s gameplay and resident sec is less opportunity cost lost. ---
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-minerals-i-mine-are-free-mentality/270090/43 "2020-09-28T18:25:50Z")
> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#): > > If killing something that doesn’t shoot back is thrilling for you, I pity you ☹ So what if I like to club baby seals? Don’t kink shame me! ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-minerals-i-mine-are-free-mentality/270090/44 "2020-09-28T18:26:06Z")
No idea, I have no idea how toxic douchebags feel since i’m not one of them 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-minerals-i-mine-are-free-mentality/270090/45 "2020-09-28T18:27:26Z")
You seem closed minded. ---
**Author:** ![Rich\_Darine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rich_darine/32/438327_2.png) [@Rich\_Darine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rich_Darine)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-minerals-i-mine-are-free-mentality/270090/46 "2020-09-28T18:29:05Z")
Become one with the douchebag ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-minerals-i-mine-are-free-mentality/270090/47 "2020-09-28T18:33:00Z")
If your only joy is hurting something that doesn’t fight back, that’s your limited intellect, sorry ☹ the average highsec ganker is an alt/bot or just a loser who couldn’t finish a level 3 security mission if they tried. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-minerals-i-mine-are-free-mentality/270090/48 "2020-09-28T18:34:46Z")
We cannot all be born with your genius, AJ. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-minerals-i-mine-are-free-mentality/270090/49 "2020-09-28T18:34:54Z")
Gankers are only playing the easy mode of Eve Online! ---
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-minerals-i-mine-are-free-mentality/270090/50 "2020-09-28T18:35:02Z")
So what if I find level 3 security missions hard? That is not a very friendly and including thing to say. I feel bullied! ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-minerals-i-mine-are-free-mentality/270090/51 "2020-09-28T18:37:02Z")
Unfortunately inclusive can’t include toxic elements, you people can reform or try to tear down the game around you but eventually there’ll be nothing left and you’ll be flipping coins to see who among your friends gets ganked next. ---
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-minerals-i-mine-are-free-mentality/270090/52 "2020-09-28T18:40:04Z")
If my friend gets ganked, he got ganked. He deserves it for being incompetent. ![if_he_dies](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/3/c3e371d68d89389792c121d391719056a0183996.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-minerals-i-mine-are-free-mentality/270090/53 "2020-09-28T18:40:47Z")
I think it is just terrible that Test attacked Goonswarm. Some of those Goonswarm guys might unsub if they lose that war. What a waste. ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-minerals-i-mine-are-free-mentality/270090/54 "2020-09-28T18:43:45Z")
So imagine the future if you get your way. All the human players that don’t actively gank or antigank have left the game, all that’s left are the large scale bot powered alliances, a few suicide gank corps, and ccps bots. Will you find that a satisfying environment? Like imagine code trying to fight against a real alliance XD ---
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-minerals-i-mine-are-free-mentality/270090/55 "2020-09-28T18:44:37Z")
Sounds like a pretty fun game to me. Perfect opportunity to sharpen those programmer skills. > [@Andresoni\_Janau](#): > > Like imagine code trying to fight against a real alliance XD So what is it then? Are there players in the game or only bots? ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-minerals-i-mine-are-free-mentality/270090/56 "2020-09-28T18:47:41Z")
The bot powered alliances are pretty good at wars, you really think goonswarm and horde don’t have large scale bot operations? ---
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-minerals-i-mine-are-free-mentality/270090/57 "2020-09-28T18:48:47Z")
Ok, just wanted to make sure we are talking about bots. That would indeed be a fun game. Like a more elaborate “Screeps”. I’d spend money on that. Make it happen. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-minerals-i-mine-are-free-mentality/270090/58 "2020-09-28T18:49:44Z")
> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#): > > So imagine the future if you get your way. All the human players that don’t actively gank or antigank have left the game, all that’s left are the large scale bot powered alliances, a few suicide gank corps, and ccps bots. Will you find that a satisfying environment? > > Like imagine code trying to fight against a real alliance XD Why are you assuming that gankers ‘have it their way’ when all the non-gankers have left the game? For a healthy EVE we need both agressors and people who were actually trying to make their money another way when they got into that gank unwillingly. ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-minerals-i-mine-are-free-mentality/270090/59 "2020-09-28T18:59:09Z")
Except the suicide gank culture has no risk, it’s all reward. If you want zero risk yourself and all the risk on your target, you want an unsustainable system where your targets leave eventually. The perpetrators can collect the loot on neutral accounts and generate virtually infinite isk, throw in a combat scripted bot or 6 and now you’re harvesting navy loot as well, so a person on a high end machine can literally be their own suicide fleet + loot collectors, with no risk of loss other than from other suicide gankers attacking their cleanup ship. It’s a loophole of toxicity and needs to be worked on, unfortunately ccp is terrified of alienating certain addicted subscribers from the game who enjoy this system, and so they tolerate exploits within a certain level, but until the game grows beyond relying on addicts and regretful purchases, it will always be limited in scale. ---
**Author:** ![Rich\_Darine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rich_darine/32/438327_2.png) [@Rich\_Darine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rich_Darine)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-minerals-i-mine-are-free-mentality/270090/60 "2020-09-28T19:00:09Z")
Or they are playing within the confines and rules of highsec. Maybe move your operation to null for a different kind of risk ---
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-minerals-i-mine-are-free-mentality/270090/61 "2020-09-28T19:05:04Z")
> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#): > > certain addicted subscribers I’m not addicted to salty tears! I can stop anytime I want! ![addiction2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/f/5f67fe122aea85f3b3310193159d6a8955343bab.png) [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-minerals-i-mine-are-free-mentality/270090.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-minerals-i-mine-are-free-mentality/270090.md?page=4)