# The nature and end of Pax Amarria

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-nature-and-end-of-pax-amarria/205930>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [December 11, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-nature-and-end-of-pax-amarria/205930 "2019-12-11T21:13:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Astaire\_Quatrevaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/astaire_quatrevaux/32/278706_2.png) [@Astaire\_Quatrevaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Astaire_Quatrevaux)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-nature-and-end-of-pax-amarria/205930/18 "2019-12-12T01:29:06Z")

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> [@Aria\_Jenneth](#):
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> So, um, when talking about the Amarr, Mr. Quatrevaux, please don’t include me? It’s a disservice to everybody involved.

Ms. Jenneth, I’ve talked with you, I’ve flown with you. I genuinely like and respect you. I enjoy listening to (or reading) you because I always learn something along the way.

Just as your perspective of yourself as opposed to my station causes you to refer to me as “Mr. Quatrevaux”, my experiences inform my view of you, which is that you are Amarr.

You defend the Empire just like Amarr do: with no basis of any real experience with the Republic.

You may not be a citizen or member of the Faith, but functionally, you are Amarr.

> [@Aria\_Jenneth](#):
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> There are as I understand it Amarr alive today who remember the Minmatar Rebellion

Yes. And what I said was

> [@Astaire\_Quatrevaux](#):
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> you aren’t carrying the scars and traumas of wounds dealt centuries ago festering beneath the fresh cuts of the wounds your empire is still dealing us.

Unless you want to make the patently ridiculous argument that the Amarr suffered in some way during the Occupation, the fact that there are long-lived Amarr is a strawman. They may still feel that supposed _embarrassment_ over losing to us in the Rebellion, but they didn’t suffer the _wholesale loss of their culture at the hands of religious extremists_.

The Matari have long memories because if we forget, then we are lost. And we have long memories because the _memories_ of our true culture, our Minmatar Empire, are _all_ that we have left of it.

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