# The new EVE Online launcher Beta **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** beta, launcher, official\ **Created:** [April 12, 2023, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-new-eve-online-launcher-beta/402083 "2023-04-12T12:05:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-new-eve-online-launcher-beta/402083/489 "2024-03-16T12:00:52Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > M1 MacBook Maybe now you have learned something about a bad and/or limited hardware concept. There are options from other vendors that allow for simple SSD upgrades or cheaper base prices for the hardware, so that the storage will initially be larger. I also don’t know about the convenience of external harddrive addons to move your stuff to. But in reality I suppose as apple user you will be offended by such suggestions and just buy the next apple computer until the story repeats in 6 years or so… ---
**Author:** ![Anabella\_Rella](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anabella_rella/32/515671_2.png) [@Anabella\_Rella](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anabella_Rella)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-new-eve-online-launcher-beta/402083/490 "2024-03-16T23:29:06Z")
Oh please. Knock it off with the Apple bashing. It’s not like your Win box has unlimited storage… 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-new-eve-online-launcher-beta/402083/491 "2024-03-16T23:54:51Z")
I don’t need to delete something, i can pop out my installed drive and replace it with a bigger one. This can’t be done for the M1 MacBook as the SSD is soldered in and can’t be replaced if the size is to small or if it gets broken. The same applies to RAM chips in the M1. ---
**Author:** ![Anabella\_Rella](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anabella_rella/32/515671_2.png) [@Anabella\_Rella](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anabella_Rella)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-new-eve-online-launcher-beta/402083/492 "2024-03-16T23:57:22Z")
Neither do I. I ordered mine with more than the skimpy standard amount of storage. In a laptop? Uh huh. Anyway not in the mood to get into another argument with a Win troll. Cya later. ---
**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-new-eve-online-launcher-beta/402083/493 "2024-03-16T23:59:38Z")
I am not even using Windows to play EVE. But referring to non apple users as Win trolls shows your narrow mindset anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Anabella\_Rella](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anabella_rella/32/515671_2.png) [@Anabella\_Rella](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anabella_Rella)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-new-eve-online-launcher-beta/402083/494 "2024-03-17T00:01:19Z")
And by you starting throwing rocks at Mac users to start this derail shows yours. ---
**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-new-eve-online-launcher-beta/402083/495 "2024-03-17T00:25:40Z")
A Mac user complained about EVE getting too large for his machine. I posted my reasoning as i see it and predicted someone will be offended just by the fact that i suggested not to buy fixed hardware that you can’t upgrade in key points if needed (or if the hardware breaks). It is common sense If you make something fixed in size to store something on it that is not fixed in size, there will come a day when your storage is not able to hold it anymore. So if you make that decision it is fine with me. But you have to live with the consequences. So no need to complain in the forums. It was your decision or necessity. CCP will not stop evolving EVE. If it happens like in other games when they introduced highres textures, i expect a jump to 150-200GB in size. And a 4TB NVME SSD is just about 200EUR these days. No need to restrict games in size as it used to be and you see the sizes rising all over the place. ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-new-eve-online-launcher-beta/402083/496 "2024-03-17T02:18:39Z")
> [@Power\_Armor](#): > > If it happens like in other games when they introduced highres textures, i expect a jump to 150-200GB in size. So no expectations that the game improved or benefitted in anyway? These patches are significant, it would be nice to know what they are doing rather than just taking up space. ---
**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-new-eve-online-launcher-beta/402083/497 "2024-03-17T02:33:25Z")
Now you confuse me…10 posts above you posted what these patches do and gave a link to the content? > [@The new EVE Online launcher Beta](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-new-eve-online-launcher-beta/402083/486): > > Oh its doing it alright. ---
**Author:** ![Fano\_Alabel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fano_alabel/32/399859_2.png) [@Fano\_Alabel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fano_Alabel)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-new-eve-online-launcher-beta/402083/498 "2024-03-17T12:26:45Z")
you can attach a 8 TB Thunderbolt M2 SSD if you are willing to Pay for it. ---
**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-new-eve-online-launcher-beta/402083/499 "2024-03-17T12:30:16Z")
Sure…i had also written that you can go external if it is convenient for the given setup. “I also don’t know about the convenience of external harddrive addons to move your stuff to.” ---
**Author:** ![Fano\_Alabel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fano_alabel/32/399859_2.png) [@Fano\_Alabel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fano_Alabel)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-new-eve-online-launcher-beta/402083/500 "2024-03-17T13:17:20Z")
xplane 12 is fully installed on 6 TB Raid 4 external Softraid drive. Moving to a new Mac is simply plug in the drive enclosure and re autendicate. ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Stroopwafel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_stroopwafel/32/373385_2.png) [@CCP\_Stroopwafel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Stroopwafel)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-new-eve-online-launcher-beta/402083/501 "2024-03-19T16:01:43Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > The patch downloading now is 780 Mbyte. I am on a default spec M1 MacBook, at this rate by this time next year I will be out of space, just from EVE updates. The launcher will periodically remove unneeded files. If you want you can trigger this behavior yourself from the Tools/Cache section of the settings window in the launcher. > [@Galleintak](#): > > This shitty launcher again and again download halfgigabyte patches without any official patchnotes! Patched files do not require there to be patchnotes. This is sometimes done in preparation of bigger release beats where some of the graphical data is preloaded before the functionality actually goes live. This is fairly normal. ---
**Author:** ![MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malcomreynolds_serenity/32/385107_2.png) [@MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MalcomReynolds_Serenity)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 2:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-new-eve-online-launcher-beta/402083/502 "2024-03-20T02:36:46Z")
Ok boomer. Higher res graphics require bigger assets. The world can’t stay stuck on 20 Mb hard drives when monitors with 4 and 8k resolutions are commonplace. ---
**Author:** ![Erebus\_TheChin\_Sundance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erebus_thechin_sundance/32/375165_2.png) [@Erebus\_TheChin\_Sundance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erebus_TheChin_Sundance)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-new-eve-online-launcher-beta/402083/503 "2024-03-20T09:32:02Z")
> [@CCP\_Stroopwafel](#): > > This is fairly normal. It shouldn’t be. ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-new-eve-online-launcher-beta/402083/504 "2024-03-21T11:54:16Z")
> [@CCP\_Stroopwafel](#): > > Patched files do not require there to be patchnotes. Is it really too much to take two minutes and do a note that says ‘Patch will include staging of graphical assets for future use.’ ![Screen Shot 2024-03-21 at 9.44.07 pm](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/8/7/f87150385dad314793165785909f60ceb731ef43.png) This box is unticked for a reason. Please respect this choice. ---
**Author:** ![Noot\_Dnilb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noot_dnilb/32/346694_2.png) [@Noot\_Dnilb](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noot_Dnilb)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-new-eve-online-launcher-beta/402083/505 "2024-03-21T14:36:06Z")
I read about an option to remove Vanguard in the change log , but it does not show for me. ---
**Author:** ![Galleintak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galleintak/32/415253_2.png) [@Galleintak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galleintak)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-new-eve-online-launcher-beta/402083/506 "2024-03-22T01:02:43Z")
This shitty launcher forgot where eve is installed. And more than that I got now additional unknown account listed with blurred portraits, that I cannot launch and it is in constant update of its omega status info… ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Beardsley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_beardsley/32/374058_2.png) [@Mr\_Beardsley](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Beardsley)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-new-eve-online-launcher-beta/402083/507 "2024-03-22T01:58:14Z")
We really need the ability to skip the launcher entirely at least until its stable. Right now its a semi-useless mess. Bring back a shortcut to the old game login screen which _still runs_ every time the game starts. Also, how about being able to double-click to launch a character…you know, like ever other program in existence? ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2024, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-new-eve-online-launcher-beta/402083/508 "2024-03-23T04:14:23Z")
> [@Galleintak](#): > > And more than that I got now additional unknown account listed with blurred portraits, that I cannot launch and it is in constant update of its omega status info… Few years ago there was an issue where people logged into eve and the character that loaded what someone else’s entirely. Quite amusing. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-new-eve-online-launcher-beta/402083.md?page=24) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-new-eve-online-launcher-beta/402083.md?page=26)