# The NPE Is Failing Noobs **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 11, 2022, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-npe-is-failing-noobs/376498 "2022-09-11T13:46:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-npe-is-failing-noobs/376498/41 "2022-09-11T20:35:10Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > Plag and Pyrox can’t be found in 1.0 0.9 or 0.8 systems. And AIR requires you to mine those. Don’t forget the Kernite, which is in lowsec (at least for those who didn’t spot the big amount of Kernite in one of the career mission sites because they don’t know how to fix their Overview) But I agree with OP. The NPE does not teach the NPs the core gameplay itself. If anything, the complete AIR career program teaches them only the grind aspect. A missed opportunity or a work in progress, we’ll see… ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-npe-is-failing-noobs/376498/42 "2022-09-11T21:37:18Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > should missions be leading clueless 1 day old noobs into unprotected areas. Yes. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-npe-is-failing-noobs/376498/43 "2022-09-11T21:37:22Z")
> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > Don’t forget the Kernite, which is in lowsec (at least for those who didn’t spot the big amount of Kernite in one of the career mission sites because they don’t know how to fix their Overview) Yeah I saw increased number of new players mining in Kubinen. But actually you don’t have to wander to lowsec for Kernite, one of the mission from career agents has lots of it and you can make the challenge there. Of course, new players don’t know that. Or if they know this as they already done the mission, they don’t know that they can redo career agents in different sector. But that is what we want isn’t it? And it is not the only challenge that makes the new player enter dangerous space, there are plenty of more. At least this done AIR well if nothing else. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-npe-is-failing-noobs/376498/45 "2022-09-11T22:37:12Z")
> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > Robert A. Heinlein, a non-pretentious Lol wat Shure shome mishtake ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-npe-is-failing-noobs/376498/46 "2022-09-11T22:38:03Z")
waitwut ? ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-npe-is-failing-noobs/376498/48 "2022-09-11T22:52:10Z")
Could be, It was his first fantasy novel, I love it for its humor and the simplicity of the story (at first glance anyway) ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-npe-is-failing-noobs/376498/49 "2022-09-11T22:53:04Z")
I started at the deep end with SST lol Can we meet in the middle and say Door Into Summer is great? ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-npe-is-failing-noobs/376498/50 "2022-09-11T22:55:37Z")
Sure 😃 Will you be mad at me if I say I like SST as well ? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-npe-is-failing-noobs/376498/51 "2022-09-11T22:56:49Z")
No, but I dont think theres anything wrong with liking something in spite of its pretentions 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-npe-is-failing-noobs/376498/52 "2022-09-11T22:57:55Z")
That’s true too. But one needs to tread carefully in this here place, lol. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-npe-is-failing-noobs/376498/53 "2022-09-11T23:44:46Z")
i think its a catch 22 because its better for attraction to pretend EVE is some kind of epic space flight simulator but OFC it would be better for the new players to have some kind on awareness that EVE is a space MMO with full loot (a niche game) ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-npe-is-failing-noobs/376498/54 "2022-09-12T00:20:00Z")
Knowing full well right off the bat that EVE is a harsh, unforgiving world didn’t stop us from playing. And by us I mean vets and players with an IQ higher than that of a couch cushion… ---
**Author:** ![Skyla\_Amarr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skyla_amarr/32/392813_2.png) [@Skyla\_Amarr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skyla_Amarr)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-npe-is-failing-noobs/376498/55 "2022-09-12T01:44:05Z")
Pyroxeres can in fact be mined in Amarr in 0.9 and below. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-npe-is-failing-noobs/376498/56 "2022-09-12T07:15:13Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Edit: editted again because of petty flagging Oh, you too ? Guess we’ll both have to HTFU or GTFO. I guess the quote from a 1963 novel, even in context of the reply, was too much to stomach for someone. Lol, good times, proves the point in more and unexpected ways than intended. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-npe-is-failing-noobs/376498/57 "2022-09-12T07:46:29Z")
If I get any harder Ill change… ahhh nice try antiwokists/wokists/theoretical nimrods. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-npe-is-failing-noobs/376498/58 "2022-09-12T09:29:27Z")
I think after every NPE mission, they should be reminded no space is safe and they can be killed any time they are undocked ROFL. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-npe-is-failing-noobs/376498/59 "2022-09-12T09:37:14Z")
They should be ganked after each NPE mission. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-npe-is-failing-noobs/376498/60 "2022-09-12T09:47:49Z")
Well Jack, I guess noobs learn like we all did … The hard way. Don’t like it ? TOUGH ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-npe-is-failing-noobs/376498/61 "2022-09-12T12:56:07Z")
Now your reply doesnt make sense because they had my reply to you removed. Youd think they would have something better to do on a monday afternoon. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-npe-is-failing-noobs/376498/62 "2022-09-12T13:46:36Z")
Someone didn’t like my edit either and flagged it as well. Since it didn’t break any forum rules, and was as much “off topic” as the one it originially replied to (which is still there), someone must be having a very bad Monday. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-npe-is-failing-noobs/376498.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-npe-is-failing-noobs/376498.md?page=4)