# The old Abyssal PvP 1v1 cruisers (Vote!) (Ideas) :parrot: More Abyssal content? Why not? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 30, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-old-abyssal-pvp-1v1-cruisers-vote-ideas-more-abyssal-content-why-not/263823 "2020-08-30T19:44:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-old-abyssal-pvp-1v1-cruisers-vote-ideas-more-abyssal-content-why-not/263823/1 "2020-08-30T19:44:46Z")
Hi! I just like to ask if we gonna ever get back the old 1v1 cruisers in the abyssal? Perhaps with a new 1v1 filament so we dont have to do t3 abyssal to get in just like the current abyssal pvp events. I really really enjoyed it and would love if we get it back. Anyone else has any thoughts on this? > Would you like to have the old 1v1 cruisers abyssal pvp to return to the game? _Poll ([view on site](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-old-abyssal-pvp-1v1-cruisers-vote-ideas-more-abyssal-content-why-not/263823/1))_ Don’t get me wrong I love the new abyssal pvp events but I would love to have the old 1v1 cruisers back and have the new events be permanent not just limited time and make it so that I can queue in solo and put in with random people “matchmaking” that are also queued in solo so that I dont have to find on my own others to queue in with. Also more pvp types ex.: battleships. Perhaps even mining competitions "who can mine the most withing 20 min and fight of enemy’s while try to mine the most and have the loser drop the ores in the end or something like that. Maybe even racing abyssal… who can control the ship better make to the end while fighting enemy’s. Maybe even 40 player “raids” with bosses and mechanics that require strategy and planing with high rewards. Talking about rewards perhaps new and exacting rewards to each different filaments. The possibilities are endless. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-old-abyssal-pvp-1v1-cruisers-vote-ideas-more-abyssal-content-why-not/263823/2 "2020-08-30T20:11:34Z")
remove leaderboards and rewards, and then i’ll be okay with it. also, this poll doesn’t belong in New Citizens Q&A. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Yumi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_yumi/32/380953_2.png) [@ISD\_Yumi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Yumi)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-old-abyssal-pvp-1v1-cruisers-vote-ideas-more-abyssal-content-why-not/263823/3 "2020-08-30T20:19:33Z")
Thread does not belong in New Citizens Q&A. Moved to General Discussion. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-old-abyssal-pvp-1v1-cruisers-vote-ideas-more-abyssal-content-why-not/263823/4 "2020-08-30T20:28:14Z")
thank you and sorry I wasn’t sure where to put it ^^’ ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-old-abyssal-pvp-1v1-cruisers-vote-ideas-more-abyssal-content-why-not/263823/8 "2020-08-30T21:25:10Z")
the way I look at abyssal pvp is: for me its like arena/battlegrounds from other MMOs and the way I look at abyssal pve is: for me its like dungeons/raids form other MMOs more variety in both pvp/pve would be absolutely amazing for the game in my opinion. remember if you dont like it you dont have to do it but why not have to option to chose? more content/chooses players have the better I think… basically the game would not loss anything by adding more features to it… i know its a lot of work and easier said then done however I believe that CCP has the capacity to do so with some time EvE Online is the BEST MMO ever existed in my opinion… this amizing game is unlike any other MMO its unique, fun, challenging, beautiful, large and wonderful, exciting. I never had so much adrenaline rush from any other game then eve pvp. PvE never boring even mining can be very exacting and farming in this game doesn’t feel repetitive even after 1000s of times doing similar thing because of the other players that surrounding you which is rare to say at least abyssal filaments in my opinion could use some more content in both PvP/PvE to make it even more fun Please CCP add more content to the abyssal experience 😁 😁 😁 😁 😁 ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-old-abyssal-pvp-1v1-cruisers-vote-ideas-more-abyssal-content-why-not/263823/9 "2020-08-30T21:35:24Z")
this is a complex subject because a lot of things that you may not understand if you are a new guy in eve online sandbox , instance , arena , real pvp… yada yada my opinion is that the people who are against it are overestimating the impact it will have on the game i think only few people would interact with this content , and it will have close to no impact on real pvp or in the sandbox overall edit: btw take the parrot of is annoying ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-old-abyssal-pvp-1v1-cruisers-vote-ideas-more-abyssal-content-why-not/263823/10 "2020-08-30T21:41:52Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > this is a complex subject because a lot of things that you may not understand if you are a new guy in eve online > sandbox , instance , arena , real pvp… yada yada > my opinion is that the people who are against it are overestimating the impact it will have on the game > i think only few people would interact with this content , and it will have close to no impact on real pvp or in the sandbox overall > > edit: > btw take the parrot of is annoying this is why we need more players showcasing Eve Online on Youtube+Twitch to help new/existing players and to give them ideas on what they could do in eve… it would be awesome if CCP hire YouTubers to make videos on how to do stuff and what options as a player you have in eve there are a few youtubers and streamers but the problem is that they are not very popular like other MMO youtubers and streamers which is why I think CCP could actually pay people to make videos and stream to boost the overall content available to watch to increase EvE Online player base ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-old-abyssal-pvp-1v1-cruisers-vote-ideas-more-abyssal-content-why-not/263823/11 "2020-08-30T21:46:41Z")
yeaaa yeaaa but your thought process is all that the old players hate about the idea 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-old-abyssal-pvp-1v1-cruisers-vote-ideas-more-abyssal-content-why-not/263823/12 "2020-08-30T21:53:38Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > yeaaa yeaaa > but your thought process is all that the old players hate about the idea 😃 why are old players hate to have more content and more new players? ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-old-abyssal-pvp-1v1-cruisers-vote-ideas-more-abyssal-content-why-not/263823/13 "2020-08-30T22:03:24Z")
> [@Katarina\_Neeko](#): > > why are old players hate to have more content and more new players? because we think (and with some reason) that eve is better than other mmos we are better than a wow player we play in a “serious” single shard sandbox with ■■■■■■■ consequences not that other mmo kid stuff ant that stupid arena is not real pvp, real pvp is in the sandbox yada yada the problem IMHO is that our Húbris prevent us to see that most of the “L33T ultra cool” eve players will not do arena not because they are above it but because they are a bunch of chicken shits used to easy f1 / gank/refund ship programs etc… pvp and would not risk a F cruiser , an this is like 95% of the game population and its hard to look at the naked truth so at the end only a few % of the players will in fact enter the arena and rest will not even notice ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-old-abyssal-pvp-1v1-cruisers-vote-ideas-more-abyssal-content-why-not/263823/14 "2020-08-30T22:11:13Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > because we think (and with some reason) that eve is better than other mmos > we are better than a wow player > we play in a “serious” single shard sandbox with ■■■■■■■ consequences > not that other mmo kid stuff > ant that stupid arena is not real pvp, real pvp is in the sandbox yada yada > the problem IMHO is that our Húbris prevent us to see that most of the “L33T ultra cool” eve players will not do arena because not because they are above it but because they are a bunch of chicken shits used to easy f1 / gank/refund ship programs etc… pvp and would not risk a F cruiser , an this is like 95% of the game population and its hard to look at the naked truth > so at the end only a few % of the players will in fact enter the arena and rest will not even notice like I said you dont have to do abyssal if you not interested… I see no harm by having them… it’s just an optional activity to do in-game just like any other optional activity… i dont like mining so I dont do them easy as that… if you dont like abyssal then dont do them but it doesn’t mean then get rid of them… I just really miss the 1v1 cruiser abyssal pvp 😢 😭 ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-old-abyssal-pvp-1v1-cruisers-vote-ideas-more-abyssal-content-why-not/263823/15 "2020-08-30T22:24:42Z")
yeah me to ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-old-abyssal-pvp-1v1-cruisers-vote-ideas-more-abyssal-content-why-not/263823/16 "2020-08-30T22:38:31Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > yeah me to I understand that it wasn’t a super popular feature but at least improve it in some ways instead of getting rid of it completely it would have been better choose I think… make it so that you dont have to do t3 abyssal to get to proving ground… I loved to make good isk by destroying pricey ships and the HUGE adrenaline rush I had every time I fight someone. I mean I was shaking most of the time from the adrenaline rush and my heart beat so fast I thought I may have a heart attack and I loved it. I really miss that experience so much. It’s better then any pvp in any other game I ever had. 😍 🥰 🤩 🤑 ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-old-abyssal-pvp-1v1-cruisers-vote-ideas-more-abyssal-content-why-not/263823/17 "2020-08-30T22:44:41Z")
i think is a nice pvp experience to , if you go cheap , you lose a lot , but you can score big, if you go bling you win a lot but you can lose BIG , good risk vs reward and very exiting ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-old-abyssal-pvp-1v1-cruisers-vote-ideas-more-abyssal-content-why-not/263823/18 "2020-08-30T22:52:05Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > i think is a nice pvp experience to , if you go cheap , you lose a lot , but you can score big, if you go bling you win a lot but you can lose BIG , good risk vs reward and very exiting also both sides have equal chances and dont have to worry about someone warping in and ruin your fun… you dont have to look at your directional scanner every second so you can 100% focus on the pvp itself and have time to loot without again worrying that someone may warp in as you looting… its basically a place where you and your opponent are reassured that it’s a FAIR pvp unlike any other pvp in eve if you go to low/null/wh you are basically not guaranteed to have a fair 1v1 pvp with equal chances to win which is fine however I’d like to have the option to do 1v1 arena without disruptions with equal chances… also in low/null/wh you wont get billios of isk worth of pvp content… 99.99% players that do pvp anywhere keep their ship,modules cheep cheep as possible which isn’t as fun… ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-old-abyssal-pvp-1v1-cruisers-vote-ideas-more-abyssal-content-why-not/263823/19 "2020-08-30T22:58:02Z")
yeah but don’t tell that to anyone because this is the other reason people don’t like the idea … something about space bushido ■■■■ … ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-old-abyssal-pvp-1v1-cruisers-vote-ideas-more-abyssal-content-why-not/263823/20 "2020-08-30T23:01:04Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > yeah but don’t tell that to anyone because this is the other reason people don’t like the idea … > something about space bushido ■■■■ … yes most pvp players like to do pvp unfair and keep their ship/modules as cheap as possible which is fine by me but then again why take 1v1 abyssal pvp away instead of improving for those who wish to have fair 1v1 arena for high risk high reward ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-old-abyssal-pvp-1v1-cruisers-vote-ideas-more-abyssal-content-why-not/263823/21 "2020-08-30T23:02:21Z")
yeah because we are pirates … rebels… want a fair fight kid? Go play hello kitty online ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-old-abyssal-pvp-1v1-cruisers-vote-ideas-more-abyssal-content-why-not/263823/22 "2020-08-30T23:05:02Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > yeah because we are pirates … rebels… want a fair fight kid? Go play hello kitty online gank to win coward pirates 😆 😅 🤣 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-old-abyssal-pvp-1v1-cruisers-vote-ideas-more-abyssal-content-why-not/263823/23 "2020-08-31T00:10:55Z")
> [@Katarina\_Neeko](#): > > why are old players hate to have more content and more new players? Pretty dishonest to say that. Sandbox is better for new players than an arena and arenas remove content, not add it. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-old-abyssal-pvp-1v1-cruisers-vote-ideas-more-abyssal-content-why-not/263823.md?page=2)