# The only way to fix broken isk vs reward hi sec ganks

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-only-way-to-fix-broken-isk-vs-reward-hi-sec-ganks/261821>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [August 21, 2020, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-only-way-to-fix-broken-isk-vs-reward-hi-sec-ganks/261821 "2020-08-21T13:33:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-only-way-to-fix-broken-isk-vs-reward-hi-sec-ganks/261821/21 "2020-08-21T17:40:53Z")

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> [@Da\_Butcher](#):
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> Actual risk vs reward with real consequences. Not the current, zero risk no real consequences vs rewards.

What did you lose?

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-only-way-to-fix-broken-isk-vs-reward-hi-sec-ganks/261821/22 "2020-08-21T18:11:51Z")

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I swear, salty threads from highsec scrublords like this make highsec ganking 100x better than just the loot.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-only-way-to-fix-broken-isk-vs-reward-hi-sec-ganks/261821/23 "2020-08-21T18:21:41Z")

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It’s like walking into a police station and telling them somebody stole a bunch of money from you:

They ask: “Where was the money located?” You answer: " In a grocery bag on the seat of my car."  
“Were you in the car?” “No, I was at the rest stop going to the bathroom.”  
“Was your car locked?” “No.”

s/ Obviously ganking is the problem, not the people who haul around mountains of wealth without taking any precautions whatsoever. An all-powerful police force would solve everything, I’m sure. /s

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-only-way-to-fix-broken-isk-vs-reward-hi-sec-ganks/261821/24 "2020-08-21T18:28:34Z")

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I would just like to take this opportunity to congratulate the killers of this care bear for a job well done.

The tears you have sent to the forums are entertainment to us all and are beneficial to the community as a whole.

Your skill and dedication are an inspiration to the EVE community.

🤣

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-only-way-to-fix-broken-isk-vs-reward-hi-sec-ganks/261821/25 "2020-08-21T18:48:27Z")

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> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#):
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> The tears you have sent to the forums are entertainment to us all and are beneficial to the community as a whole.

Are you talking about the forum in general, or this thread in particular?

Because I’m sure not seeing any tears here. Though I’m seeing a lot of fear in the subtext of many of the posts from people like you and others. People who know full well how this ends.

PA nerfing ganking into oblivion.

By the time they’re done with EVE, you’ll be lucky if you even have wars that don’t need to be cosigned by both parties.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-only-way-to-fix-broken-isk-vs-reward-hi-sec-ganks/261821/26 "2020-08-21T18:49:43Z")

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> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#):
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> People who know full well how this ends. PA nerfing ganking into oblivion.

It 100% **will** happen, I agree, but at least we’ll be able to look at ourselves in the mirror and say “we tried.”

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-only-way-to-fix-broken-isk-vs-reward-hi-sec-ganks/261821/27 "2020-08-21T18:55:13Z")

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You wish to punish _the players_, not the _capsuleers_.  
You have no clue what “risk vs. reward” actually means and you don’t really care.

The sole reason you’re posting this, is because you’ve gotten blown up.

You’re selfish. You never cared about anyone else getting blown up,  
but now it hit _you_ and suddenly the rest of the world has to care about your worthless, sorry, candy ass.

I think we don’t actually appreciate bad people like yourself here …  
… and you’re just painting a big fat target on yourself for doing this.

You have no honour and don’t give a single ■■■■ about anyone but yourself.

You’re an asshole, mate.

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-only-way-to-fix-broken-isk-vs-reward-hi-sec-ganks/261821/28 "2020-08-21T18:56:31Z")

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Deleting his post in 3…2…

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-only-way-to-fix-broken-isk-vs-reward-hi-sec-ganks/261821/29 "2020-08-21T18:57:05Z")

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This guy up there’s a massive asshole too, btw, who never stops being stuck in the past. 😃

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-only-way-to-fix-broken-isk-vs-reward-hi-sec-ganks/261821/30 "2020-08-21T18:58:36Z")

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> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> stuck in the past

Like yesterday when you got drunk again and did a bunch of dick posts that you then deleted five minutes later.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-only-way-to-fix-broken-isk-vs-reward-hi-sec-ganks/261821/31 "2020-08-21T19:00:36Z")

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That’s a good one. 🙂

You really see me everywhere, all the time, every day … hu? 😃

I have no idea what I’ve done to you …  
… but I’m sure as ■■■■ impressed about your lasting reaction to it. 🙂

lol USAmerican.

How’s “Mr. Epeen” doing?  
Still butthurt about the name being banned? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-only-way-to-fix-broken-isk-vs-reward-hi-sec-ganks/261821/32 "2020-08-21T19:03:00Z")

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Sleep it off, bro. Maybe you’ll make more sense when you wake up.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-only-way-to-fix-broken-isk-vs-reward-hi-sec-ganks/261821/33 "2020-08-21T19:06:25Z")

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Both of you are arguing like dysfunctional parents.

Meanwhile, I, the 4-year-old child, am sitting in the living room, _desperately_ trying to play with my firetruck in a vain effort to drown out the yelling and the sounds of mommy hitting daddy while he’s smashing the cups and plates against the wall.

Vroom vroom, wee-ooo-wee-ooo…

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-only-way-to-fix-broken-isk-vs-reward-hi-sec-ganks/261821/34 "2020-08-21T19:11:05Z")

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He’s USAmerican. What would be the point of argueing? o\_O

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**Author:** ![Aaaarrgg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaaarrgg/32/395089_2.png) [@Aaaarrgg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaaarrgg)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-only-way-to-fix-broken-isk-vs-reward-hi-sec-ganks/261821/35 "2020-08-21T19:11:10Z")

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i completely missed all that i just thought it was the usual salty victim…are you sure its not just a salty victim,… its just a salty victim 🙂

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-only-way-to-fix-broken-isk-vs-reward-hi-sec-ganks/261821/36 "2020-08-21T19:12:31Z")

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> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> He’s USAmerican. What would be the point of argueing? o\_O

I thought he’s Euro?

Fogster, where you at?

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-only-way-to-fix-broken-isk-vs-reward-hi-sec-ganks/261821/37 "2020-08-21T19:15:00Z")

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He’s Canadian, we had a bit of a linguistic side thread going in the moderation thread and it came up.

Sorry 😛

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-only-way-to-fix-broken-isk-vs-reward-hi-sec-ganks/261821/38 "2020-08-21T19:15:37Z")

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I doubt that. He _never_ says sorry and Canadians can’t tell lies! D:

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-only-way-to-fix-broken-isk-vs-reward-hi-sec-ganks/261821/39 "2020-08-21T19:17:45Z")

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Too far! I was hoping that was closer so that we could meet up and he would buy me alcohol.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-only-way-to-fix-broken-isk-vs-reward-hi-sec-ganks/261821/40 "2020-08-21T19:18:01Z")

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pfft we all know that you own lederhosen. 😑

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