# The Orca **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** pve\ **Created:** [July 4, 2021, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-orca/318809 "2021-07-04T20:45:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 36
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 3:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-orca/318809/708 "2021-07-29T03:53:42Z")
> [@Hans\_Devin](#): > > I don’t run a search service for the uniformed. Typical lazy miner. It’s already been posted and @Pan_Dora1 saw it and acknowledged it. So _OK good, let’s move on…_. Great. Maybe actually focus on the topic of the thread: > [@Marcus\_Rue](#): > > I heard a birdy say they were planning to nerf the Orca . . Why? > This ship is way useful in so many ways . . Fleet mining is the main stay of this vessel. > What could they possibly get by nerfing it? > and > What would they nerf So if there are going to be nerfs, what are they going to be? Sticking heads in the sand like “my ship doesn’t need any change” ignores all the hints from CCP that they are going to change it. ---
**Author:** ![WeightLifting\_Nerd](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/weightlifting_nerd/32/494848_2.png) [@WeightLifting\_Nerd](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/WeightLifting_Nerd)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 3:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-orca/318809/709 "2021-07-29T03:55:47Z")
all we can do is speculate as to what changes might be coming. All we can do is let ccp know that ratface is trying to ruin eve and that the current mining ships are perfect where they are. ---
**Author:** ![WindRider9](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/windrider9/32/280759_2.png) [@WindRider9](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/WindRider9)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 4:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-orca/318809/710 "2021-07-29T04:02:04Z")
I agree, it’s perfect. it’s a great ship, great experience, and fun to play. ---
**Author:** ![Hans\_Devin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hans_devin/32/373511_2.png) [@Hans\_Devin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hans_Devin)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-orca/318809/711 "2021-07-29T04:05:59Z")
Just like AFK cloakers were so awful…and…there were so many because all the “we people” said so. Since inception, Dodixie has seen 50 transactions for Mobile Observatories. The demand for women’s apparel far exceeds those actively suppressing those dastardly cloaked afk pilots. ---
**Author:** ![Hans\_Devin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hans_devin/32/373511_2.png) [@Hans\_Devin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hans_Devin)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-orca/318809/712 "2021-07-29T04:06:45Z")
Amen brother… ---
**Author:** ![Hans\_Devin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hans_devin/32/373511_2.png) [@Hans\_Devin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hans_Devin)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 4:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-orca/318809/713 "2021-07-29T04:17:59Z")
If you acknowledge the Orca + Miner = Pillar there’s not much left to say and yet you and Pan are still talking. So that’s not an acknowledgement it something else. The root word of “aknowledge” is …(wait for it)…KNOWLEGE Here’s a definition for you - Acknowledge: _accept or admit the existence or truth of_. I don’t see any acceptance round here. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 4:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-orca/318809/714 "2021-07-29T04:21:20Z")
> [@Hans\_Devin](#): > > If you acknowledge the Orca + Miner = Pillar there’s not much left to say and yet you and Pan are still talking. This has also been posted in the forum and you’ve been too lazy to read it: ![orca_ccp](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/c/4/ec4f1fc3341970bd3bf5bb4915160bc1af2b7c63.png) Hence this thread. I’m actually mining in an Orca right now in highsec, and if you actually took the time to not be lazy, you’d see in my posts in this thread that I’m not all for destroying the ship. That might be a bit hard for a lazy miner, but wonders might occur. ---
**Author:** ![WeightLifting\_Nerd](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/weightlifting_nerd/32/494848_2.png) [@WeightLifting\_Nerd](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/WeightLifting_Nerd)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-orca/318809/715 "2021-07-29T04:22:26Z")
rattati is bad for eve. ccp should have learned from his dust days. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-orca/318809/716 "2021-07-29T04:23:40Z")
> [@WeightLifting\_Nerd](#): > > rattati is bad for eve I don’t disagree, from the perspective of my gameplay, but he is the one that is calling some of the overall shots, so we have the adapt to changes he pushes that are introduced. ---
**Author:** ![Hans\_Devin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hans_devin/32/373511_2.png) [@Hans\_Devin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hans_Devin)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 4:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-orca/318809/717 "2021-07-29T04:26:13Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > I don’t disagree, from the perspective of my gameplay, but he is the one that is calling some of the overall shots, so we have the adapt to changes he pushes that are introduced. Unfortunately we agree on this. Thank you for the discussion. It’s been spirited and fun. ---
**Author:** ![Arumi\_Liz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arumi_liz/32/276823_2.png) [@Arumi\_Liz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arumi_Liz)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 4:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-orca/318809/718 "2021-07-29T04:37:16Z")
Literally would solve the afk problem. ---
**Author:** ![Arumi\_Liz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arumi_liz/32/276823_2.png) [@Arumi\_Liz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arumi_Liz)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 4:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-orca/318809/719 "2021-07-29T04:46:37Z")
Exactly what is wrong with freighters a well. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 4:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-orca/318809/720 "2021-07-29T04:48:59Z")
Mostly the people flying them. Otherwise, nothing really. ---
**Author:** ![WindRider9](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/windrider9/32/280759_2.png) [@WindRider9](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/WindRider9)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 5:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-orca/318809/721 "2021-07-29T05:02:22Z")
Here is the video, unfortunately it looks like they are going to nerf the orca and rorq again. LOL I would just like to say the utility of these is exactly what many players love. someone fire this turd. lol [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/c/5/dc52ddaf5e530a9c2e7f0d62687d9a7bf4a0bf43.jpeg "Oz interviews CCP Rattati (March 2021) - Eve Online") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCz_QwgWzmw) ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-orca/318809/722 "2021-07-29T05:07:59Z")
> [@WindRider9](#): > > I would just like to say the utility of these is exactly what many players love. It will be extremely sad if the Orca and Rorqual go back to just ships flown by alts. Particularly the Orca, since it’s more attainable for many players than the Rorqual is. Whatever they do, I hope it’s still a ship that main characters aspire to fly. ---
**Author:** ![WindRider9](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/windrider9/32/280759_2.png) [@WindRider9](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/WindRider9)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-orca/318809/723 "2021-07-29T05:12:18Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > It will be extremely sad if the Orca and Rorqual go back to just ships flown by alts. Particularly the Orca, since it’s more attainable for many players than the Rorqual is. > > Whatever they do, I hope it’s still a ship that main characters aspire to fly. I agree. I have a feeling they are going to increase the boosts, but remove the drones. Just a feeling… But mining foreman need to be able to earn isk on their own, which was the issue before 2016. I truly remember when the mining foreman was a dead profession, alt only ship. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-orca/318809/724 "2021-07-29T05:15:19Z")
> [@WindRider9](#): > > I have a feeling they are going to increase the boosts, but remove the drones I agree. Seems a pretty low effort approach; and that’s really the level of development we’ve seen in recent times, so the likely outcome. I hope it isn’t and I’ll give CCP kudos if they do something more expansive than that. ---
**Author:** ![WindRider9](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/windrider9/32/280759_2.png) [@WindRider9](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/WindRider9)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 5:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-orca/318809/725 "2021-07-29T05:21:20Z")
Next think you know we have threads looking for classic. LOL ---
**Author:** ![Arumi\_Liz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arumi_liz/32/276823_2.png) [@Arumi\_Liz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arumi_Liz)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-orca/318809/726 "2021-07-29T05:53:15Z")
I bet people lost to orcas in pvp is why this is happening. ---
**Author:** ![WindRider9](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/windrider9/32/280759_2.png) [@WindRider9](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/WindRider9)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-orca/318809/727 "2021-07-29T06:49:02Z")
The video says they are going move it more toward fleet boosting (prob reduce the yield on drones) and give it a new role. Curious what that could be… Mini moon drill ? 😛 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-orca/318809.md?page=35) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-orca/318809.md?page=37)