# The Permanent Green Safety Brigade **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-permanent-green-safety-brigade/359974 "2022-04-25T20:58:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-permanent-green-safety-brigade/359974/282 "2022-04-29T15:27:03Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > He hasn’t logged into the game in years. Apart from all the times they have. If you insist on always being a d_ck at least be a factually correct d_ck. It’s better for everyone in the long run ---
**Author:** ![Fifi\_Brin\_D\_acier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fifi_brin_d_acier/32/316767_2.png) [@Fifi\_Brin\_D\_acier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fifi_Brin_D_acier)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-permanent-green-safety-brigade/359974/283 "2022-04-29T15:28:55Z")
> [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > . If you insist on always being a d_ck at least be a factually correct d_ck Mr Epeen is no _d_ck. He’s cool and funny. DC is a _d_ck and he’s not cool nor funny. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-permanent-green-safety-brigade/359974/284 "2022-04-29T15:32:28Z")
Keep that up and he might give you a biscuit. ---
**Author:** ![Fifi\_Brin\_D\_acier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fifi_brin_d_acier/32/316767_2.png) [@Fifi\_Brin\_D\_acier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fifi_Brin_D_acier)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-permanent-green-safety-brigade/359974/285 "2022-04-29T15:34:54Z")
> [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > biscuit He’s not a tightwad, if he wants to gift someone I’m sure it would be more than biscuits. On the other hand, DC wouldn’t even give you a cracker 😅 ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-permanent-green-safety-brigade/359974/286 "2022-04-29T15:37:38Z")
Why do birds suddenly appear Every time Epeen is near I feel like I’m intruding on a………moment. ---
**Author:** ![Fifi\_Brin\_D\_acier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fifi_brin_d_acier/32/316767_2.png) [@Fifi\_Brin\_D\_acier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fifi_Brin_D_acier)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-permanent-green-safety-brigade/359974/287 "2022-04-29T15:39:50Z")
> [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > I feel like I’m intruding on a………moment Gawd, another delusional one. This forum is a trip. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-permanent-green-safety-brigade/359974/288 "2022-04-29T15:50:38Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > The _reality_ is that many older people have been playing computer games for 40 years or more…in many cases longer than younger people have even been alive. The older generation are the ones who _invented_ computer games in the first place…and you go on as if they don’t know how to switch on a computer. Actually, my argument has nothing to do with how competent they are as players. It _only_ has to do with my personal observation that they cry much more, and more loudly and petulantly, when they lose their in-game assets. Also, pretty much _every_ single case where people went off at me and made threats and such, it was someone middle-aged or older. Like they’d tell me to get in their corporation’s Ventrilo or TS, and would then proceed to threaten to rape me for 2 hours, and it was always some guy who sounded like he’s a few years away from the grave. You can easily observe this today just by sitting in the ganking channel and prodding the jackpot cases. When I have trouble sleeping, I sometimes listen to the recordings or read the chat transcripts I saved, and it helps to calm me down and let me nod off. ---
**Author:** ![Fifi\_Brin\_D\_acier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fifi_brin_d_acier/32/316767_2.png) [@Fifi\_Brin\_D\_acier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fifi_Brin_D_acier)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-permanent-green-safety-brigade/359974/289 "2022-04-29T15:58:20Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Also, pretty much _every_ single case where people went off at me and made threats and such, it was someone middle-aged or older Get over it. It’s not a crime to go off on anyone. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > and would then proceed to threaten to rape me for 2 hours Did you make a police report against them? If no, why not? > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > it was always some guy who sounded like he’s a few years away from the grave What matters the age? I was threatened by youngsters before, doesn’t make it a generality. You obviously have a bais against older people, it’s plain as the nose on your face, and makes me doubt your entire narrative. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-permanent-green-safety-brigade/359974/290 "2022-04-29T16:07:18Z")
The problem with your ‘logic’ is that _by definition_ if you started as a younger player then everyone else will be ‘older’. Also, the actual age distribution within a game will affect everything. Over on another MMO, I happen to know ( as the stats are published ) that the _average_ rl age is 40…which suggests there is a higher proportion of older players in the first place. So once again, almost by definition, a person complaining about anything is more likely to be ‘older’ simply because more older people play the game. And I’d suspect that is equally true in Eve…given how many long terms vets there are. See…the benefits of doing statistics at colllege 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-permanent-green-safety-brigade/359974/291 "2022-04-29T16:13:40Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > When I have trouble sleeping, I sometimes listen to the recordings or read the chat transcripts I saved, and it helps to calm me down and let me nod off. But this is just selection bias…no different to Aiko’s blog where she finds all the most egregious comments and posts them as if they were 100% of the comments rather than just a selected few. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-permanent-green-safety-brigade/359974/292 "2022-04-29T16:14:56Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > The problem with your ‘logic’ is that _by definition_ if you started as a younger player then everyone else will be ‘older’. It doesn’t make what’s said untrue though does it? Either way its concerning how many people on the wrong side of 40 are acting like they are teenage boys. Anyway. Who cares if they are 13, 30 or 70. The kind of behaviour we are talking about is just plain unacceptable period. And over a ship loss…….in a game…… ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-permanent-green-safety-brigade/359974/293 "2022-04-29T16:15:25Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > But this is just selection bias Coming from the master of bias. That’s a bit rich. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-permanent-green-safety-brigade/359974/294 "2022-04-29T16:16:21Z")
I’m glad to know that Cilly is an avid reader of my blog! ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-permanent-green-safety-brigade/359974/295 "2022-04-29T16:18:20Z")
You must be so proud. How does it feel to have finally made it in Eve? ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-permanent-green-safety-brigade/359974/296 "2022-04-29T16:22:17Z")
> [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > Anyway. Who cares if they are 13, 30 or 70. The kind of behaviour we are talking about is just plain unacceptable period. And over a ship loss…….in a game…… If someone starts badmouthing and threatening in chat then you just block them…immediately. End of story. You don’t start keeping a detailed record and diary which you then post online in a blog…carefully selecting all the worst cases for posterity. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-permanent-green-safety-brigade/359974/297 "2022-04-29T16:24:39Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > The problem with your ‘logic’ is that _by definition_ if you started as a younger player then everyone else will be ‘older’. > > Also, the actual age distribution within a game will affect everything. Over on another MMO, I happen to know ( as the stats are published ) that the _average_ rl age is 40…which suggests there is a higher proportion of older players in the first place. So once again, almost by definition, a person complaining about anything is more likely to be ‘older’ simply because more older people play the game. And I’d suspect that is equally true in Eve…given how many long terms vets there are. > > See…the benefits of doing statistics at colllege 🙂 If you studied statistics, then you should be fully aware that the “average” doesn’t explain the whole picture, or that it explains the picture accurately. But that is irrelevant to the point that I’m making anyway, as an older average age shouldn’t belie the _absence_ of younger players. I have, in fact, also killed _many_ younger players as well, and they rarely reacted this way. A _much_ more common reaction from younger players was trying to find out how I did what I did, rather that blind, unadulterated rage. In fact, most of the friends I made in this game were players who initially found themselves at the opposite end of my guns, or found me at the opposite end of theirs. > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > But this is just selection bias…no different to Aiko’s blog where she finds all the most egregious comments and posts them as if they were 100% of the comments rather than just a selected few. Aiko doesn’t discount rage that comes from younger players; she keeps _all_ the rage, and it just so happens that the worst kind mostly comes from “family men” and retired geriatrics. > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > If someone starts badmouthing and threatening in chat then you just block them…immediately. End of story. You don’t start keeping a detailed record and diary which you then post online in a blog…carefully selecting all the worst cases for posterity. Why the hell not? That’s _literally_ the best part of this game. ---
**Author:** ![Jumpdrive](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jumpdrive/32/285032_2.png) [@Jumpdrive](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jumpdrive)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-permanent-green-safety-brigade/359974/298 "2022-04-29T16:25:06Z")
Alas, contrary to the OP’s claim, EVE online actually stands for: Environment Versus Environment online. When the original developers envisioned mining and made it integral to the entire game, they KNEW that to succinctly describe their new creation, they needed a new Superlative to the older term PvE, so EvE was coined. EvE: players acting like bots versus scripted NPCs and rocks. Collectively we deserve all the ridicule from the rest of the MMO community. We still have a long way to go before we have a true PvP game. This is our punishment. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-permanent-green-safety-brigade/359974/299 "2022-04-29T16:25:33Z")
Why not? Victims should just block and hope no alts show up to continue the abuse? And the rest of us just pretend it isn’t happening? Or maybe publically shaming the people doing the abuse goes some way to shining a light on it and potentially shaming into stopping. ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_zealot/32/305585_2.png) [@Mina\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-permanent-green-safety-brigade/359974/300 "2022-04-29T16:27:37Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > If someone starts badmouthing and threatening in chat then you just block them…immediately. End of story. You don’t start keeping a detailed record and diary which you then post online in a blog…carefully selecting all the worst cases for posterity Sick and obsessed people do that. It’s scary. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-permanent-green-safety-brigade/359974/301 "2022-04-29T16:29:35Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > If you studied statistics, then you should be fully aware that the “average” doesn’t explain the whole picture, or that it explains the picture accurately. ![think-about-how-stupid-the-average-person-is-and-the-realize-that-half-of-them-are-stupider-than-that-quote-1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/8/0/180ab1686dd572da2b43b5f45759c53a32f9a5ea.jpeg) [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-permanent-green-safety-brigade/359974.md?page=14) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-permanent-green-safety-brigade/359974.md?page=16)