# The Proving Grounds, as they are now, are an Utter and Complete Failure **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 10, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-proving-grounds-as-they-are-now-are-an-utter-and-complete-failure/289505 "2021-01-10T19:00:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 2
**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-proving-grounds-as-they-are-now-are-an-utter-and-complete-failure/289505/2 "2021-01-10T20:21:54Z")
> [@Abyssal Proving Grounds are a Failure](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/abyssal-proving-grounds-are-a-failure/266432): > > Hello friends. First, let’s start with what this post is not about. This is not a thread to discuss how wrong I am because you loved the content afforded to you by the revamped Abysssal PvP released this summer. I have no doubt that you enjoyed every second and are very happy that this content has been brought to New Eden. This is equally not a thread to tell us how much you think Abyssal PvP sucked or was unbalanced or could be improved. We all know that there are issues with what CCP was able… > [@Proving of Kybernauts for Glorification in the Flow Unfolds](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proving-of-kybernauts-for-glorification-in-the-flow-unfolds/252073/661): > > Limiting Fits and boosters might start to make some sense yes : let me explain … After taking warp disrupters and after burners out of table… if you remove EWAR modules too… Can you tell me what is left there in a name of PVP meta??? PvE fitted ships shooting at each other … Yes Yes… makes sense … Very creative PVE fits we will see ( lol ) in this “so called PVP arenas”. Fits may be even doesnt work in real PvE conditions just work in arena … But no PVP fits . This makes sense to you … You know what? 🙂 with your own understanding speed 😉 took 7 Month for you to come to the point … Also currently RVB produces more content than your prooving grounds or those arenas… Only one of the systems we become active produce %100 times more content than WHOLE ■■■■■■■ Pochven ! … Populist things and DEv Made theme park contents comes and goes … Traditions LIVES… by their nature Check the market for RvB skins … and next time … think twice when you had been shitting on an institution part of the EvE lore and history… We do fight for the sake of the fight… we shed blood for the sake of PVP … We don’t fight for catch or profit … that what has made grow best pilots of New Eden… Love From RvB! --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-proving-grounds-as-they-are-now-are-an-utter-and-complete-failure/289505)._