# The real reasons player population is declining

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 16, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517 "2018-01-16T17:54:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/547 "2018-03-31T20:50:42Z")

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> [@Sindara\_T\_Soni](#):
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> About CCP teaching the EVE playerbase to hate World of Warcraft, or are you seriously trying to claim that you meant CCP only teaches Teckos to hate World of Warcraft?

Which is amazing as I never played WoW and I don’t really care one way or the other about WoW. If they are successful…good for them. If they aren’t, that’s too bad. I don’t want to play WoW because I have no interest in that type of game.

> [@Auto-da-fe](#):
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> I respond to the Great Troll Teckos\_Pech.

Awesome…I am now the Great Troll. Everyone bow down to my superiority. 😛

> [@Auto-da-fe](#):
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> You guys can totally Read Out of Context, can’t you? its like your specialty.

No not really we are just good at spotting Bravo Sierra being spouted by a NUB. But that’s okay, like I noted earlier if you wanted to get a PhD in PoMo English you just have to learn the buzzwrods and toss them in randomly…you’re a natural.

> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> InB4

Goddammit @Jonah_Gravenstein!

> [@Auto-da-fe](#):
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> after reading that I completely ignored the rest of your post.

That’s fine. It is like having the village idiot not coming around knocking on the door anymore. Now if only you’d do it with the rest of the forums.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/548 "2018-03-31T20:51:16Z")

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You’ve mistakenly linked the casuality trailer twice. The second one is supposed to be the butterfly effect.

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**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/549 "2018-03-31T20:51:31Z")

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Thanks…will fix…

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**Author:** ![Auto-da-fe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/auto-da-fe/32/53227_2.png) [@Auto-da-fe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Auto-da-fe)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/550 "2018-03-31T20:53:26Z")

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> [@Teckos\_Pech](#):
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> That’s fine. It is like having the village idiot not coming around knocking on the door anymore. Now if only you’d do it with the rest of the forums.

hehehe

this village idiot was NOT knocking on your door.

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**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/551 "2018-03-31T21:05:30Z")

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You sure seem to reply to me alot though for being the village idiot not knocking on doors. You do realize every time you do…I get a notification, right?

Cripes…

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**Author:** ![Auto-da-fe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/auto-da-fe/32/53227_2.png) [@Auto-da-fe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Auto-da-fe)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2018, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/552 "2018-03-31T21:12:38Z")

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> [@Teckos\_Pech](#):
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> You sure seem to reply to me alot though for being the village idiot not knocking on doors. You do realize every time you do…I get a notification, right?
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> Cripes…

Sounds like something you should talk to CCP about.  
🙄

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**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2018, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/553 "2018-03-31T21:20:46Z")

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> [@Auto-da-fe](#):
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> Sounds like something you should talk to CCP about.

Why? I find it amusing. Your posts are fun to read…reminds me of the ramblings of a Lovecraft character after reading the _Livre d’Eibon_.

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**Author:** ![Ragionier\_Sunji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ragionier_sunji/32/56713_2.png) [@Ragionier\_Sunji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ragionier_Sunji)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2018, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/554 "2018-03-31T21:27:43Z")

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I’m starting to get it: he is that guy you have to kill at the end of the military career agent missions (Wolf, I think he’s called).

He wants the game to fail so people will stop killing him over and over again!

Or, at least, that’s the option that makes the most sense right now.

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**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/555 "2018-03-31T21:28:35Z")

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> [@Ragionier\_Sunji](#):
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> He wants the game to fail so people will stop killing him over and over again!
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> Or, at least, that’s the option that makes the most sense right now.

My God…EVE _is_ real. 😛

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**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/556 "2018-03-31T21:29:42Z")

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I have to wonder is marketing Auto-da-fe’s [Church of Starry Wisdom](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_Mythos_cults)?

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2018, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/557 "2018-04-01T09:06:26Z")

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Persons that have falsely accused me of being a troll, observe here what a troll is.

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**Author:** ![Matt\_Spangher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/matt_spangher/32/207271_2.png) [@Matt\_Spangher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Matt_Spangher)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2018, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/558 "2018-04-01T09:32:32Z")

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Some days I think reading the forums might be the closest I’ll get to the experience one has with Act II of The King in Yellow.

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**Author:** ![Auto-da-fe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/auto-da-fe/32/53227_2.png) [@Auto-da-fe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Auto-da-fe)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2018, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/559 "2018-04-01T09:42:30Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Persons that have falsely accused me of being a troll, observe here what a troll is.

The first defense of every criminal.

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2018, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/560 "2018-04-01T10:15:27Z")

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Hi!

I like you! How are you? 😊

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**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/561 "2018-04-01T17:23:47Z")

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Oh no! Auto vs. Salvos…I think I am about to go insane! The mere thought of such eldritch evil!!

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**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/562 "2018-04-02T14:26:22Z")

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_Love EvE_ not equal to _hate WoW_.

This guy tells about latter and you are asking about former. Why?

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**Author:** ![Ragionier\_Sunji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ragionier_sunji/32/56713_2.png) [@Ragionier\_Sunji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ragionier_Sunji)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/563 "2018-04-02T14:26:47Z")

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Remind me never to suicide gank anyone. If there’s even a possibility of spawning another Auto da fe, it’s not worth it.

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**Author:** ![Ragionier\_Sunji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ragionier_sunji/32/56713_2.png) [@Ragionier\_Sunji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ragionier_Sunji)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/564 "2018-04-02T14:27:27Z")

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Because he is saying that people that love Eve do so because they were taught to hate WoW

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**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/565 "2018-04-02T14:45:08Z")

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Yeah, rereading thread back i see it. On the first glance it looks very strange.

However… In my case i didn’t know WoW before i started playing EvE. Heard something about it but never wanted to take a look at it. And now i dislike WoW because of what i got here in EvE - forums, players around, etc… Does it lead to loving EvE? I dunno. Did it affect my wish to try other MMOs? Yes for sure.  
Friend leaves EvE and invites me to play Star Treck (or was it something-Star Wars? not sure)? No, not enough risk!  
Elite is getting ready to be played? I even bought it and still - played few hours and never started again. Reason: not enough risk (comparing to EvE).

So i can see _something_ rational in posts of this guy. Marketing is a very strong magic!

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**Author:** ![Ragionier\_Sunji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ragionier_sunji/32/56713_2.png) [@Ragionier\_Sunji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ragionier_Sunji)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/566 "2018-04-02T14:54:54Z")

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Well, yeah, but I don’t believe this is entirely related to marketing. More to our enjoyment of features.

And it happens with every MMO. If you play an MMO, and happen to like it, you get used to it. So when you try other MMOs and they don’t offer you the same quality of features in a certain area, you don’t enjoy it. Had you started with that MMO instead and happened to like it, you would have disliked Eve.

Which is the reason why marketing works both ways: for every person that enjoys eve for its freedom or its complexity, there are 10 more that will never play it because they despise the idea they might get ganked/scammed or other and end up losing stuff they worked hard for.

The same reason you disliked Star Trek online is the same reason others dislike Eve.

Also I’m pretty sure every MMO forum is full of people disliking other MMOs, so you should take everything with a grain of salt.

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