# The real reasons player population is declining

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 16, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517 "2018-01-16T17:54:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ragionier\_Sunji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ragionier_sunji/32/56713_2.png) [@Ragionier\_Sunji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ragionier_Sunji)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/588 "2018-04-03T16:41:47Z")

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May God have mercy upon your brain cortex.

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**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/589 "2018-04-03T16:43:57Z")

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> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#):
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> Really? Are we?

Yes. When I make a new character CCP forces me to watch hours of videos telling me why I hate WoW and then they waterboard me until I agree. I usually agree once they get out the towel. CCP calls this extreme marketing. Fortunately before leaving my house CCP Falcon put the glass he was drinking from in the sink so I didn’t have to go looking for it. /sarcasm

> [@Ragionier\_Sunji](#):
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> Hey! A coherent response! Was it so hard?

I think you caught him as the meds kicked in. Unfortunately…

> [@Auto-da-fe](#):
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> That was your typical, long-winded, wordy, steaming pile of … gibberish.

He appears to be building up a tolerance.

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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/590 "2018-04-03T16:47:34Z")

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Best said when burning a heretic at the stake. 🕶

–Inquisitor Gadget

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**Author:** ![Ragionier\_Sunji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ragionier_sunji/32/56713_2.png) [@Ragionier\_Sunji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ragionier_Sunji)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/591 "2018-04-03T16:49:36Z")

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> [@Teckos\_Pech](#):
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> > [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#):
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> > Really? Are we?
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> Yes. When I make a new character CCP forces me to watch hours of videos telling me why I hate WoW and then they waterboard me until I agree. I usually agree once they get out the towel. CCP calls this extreme marketing. Fortunately before leaving my house CCP Falcon put the glass he was drinking from in the sink so I didn’t have to go looking for it. /sarcasm

To be entirely fair, Aura and friends’ droning during the tutorial could be considered torture. 😛

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**Author:** ![Grand\_Design](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grand_design/32/81842_2.png) [@Grand\_Design](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grand_Design)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/592 "2018-04-03T16:55:39Z")

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The inmates are running the prison.

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/593 "2018-04-03T17:03:55Z")

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You seem incredibly salty lately. Care to enlighten us why? Was antimatter involved?

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**Author:** ![xxxTRUSTxxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxxtrustxxx/32/285949_2.png) [@xxxTRUSTxxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxxTRUSTxxx)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/594 "2018-04-03T17:19:31Z")

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> [@Grand\_Design](#):
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> The inmates are running the prison.

what prison? you’re not locked up, you can leave anytime you want 😉

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**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/595 "2018-04-03T17:23:29Z")

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Damn you should hang around Goldshire on an rp realm they don’t care about gear or even clothes. Otherwise nice WoW rant, but typing all this on a forum dedicated to internetz spaceships is a bit weird.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/596 "2018-04-03T17:25:39Z")

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Unlike Hotel California hueeeeee

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/597 "2018-04-03T17:28:05Z")

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> [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](#):
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> Best said when cooking your steak on the burning heretic at the stake. 🕶

FTFY

> [@Gregorius\_Goldstein](#):
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> Most game developers have forgotten what is best in life: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear their lamentations on the forum!

/rummages through gifs… ah here we are.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/2X/2/20dd9f0bf02a44a1298afb3265bbc258193f29a2.gif)

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**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/598 "2018-04-03T17:33:02Z")

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🤣

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**Author:** ![Ragionier\_Sunji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ragionier_sunji/32/56713_2.png) [@Ragionier\_Sunji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ragionier_Sunji)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/599 "2018-04-03T17:42:51Z")

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> [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](#):
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> Damn you should hang around Goldshire on an rp realm they don’t care about gear or even clothes.

If it involves two Night Elves and a Dwarven Handcannon, I’ve already heard it.

> [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](#):
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> Otherwise nice WoW rant, but typing all this on a forum dedicated to internetz spaceships is a bit weird.

Oh, NOW you think things started getting weird?XD

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**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/600 "2018-04-03T17:48:58Z")

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That dwarven hand cannon vibrate by any chance? Do i think things are getting weird, the answer would be yes especially if that dwarf jumps into something a little bit blingy leaves azeroth for the big beyond and jumps into the nearest wormhole.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/601 "2018-04-03T17:54:06Z")

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Rule 34.

There’s already an “erotic” WoW film.

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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/602 "2018-04-03T17:54:49Z")

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> [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](#):
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> That dwarven hand cannon vibrate by any chance? Do i think things are getting weird, the answer would be yes especially if that dwarf jumps into something a little bit blingy leaves azeroth for the big beyond and jumps into the nearest wormhole.

Poor bastard would spend the next solar cycle lamenting the loss of his beard.

–Gadget feels for the little guy

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**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/603 "2018-04-03T18:10:50Z")

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Aye the poor bugger turned his back on mining, now he’s out there somewhere in a blingy ship armed with anti-matter.

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**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/605 "2018-04-03T19:01:25Z")

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Sorry to ask but to whom are you referring.

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**Author:** ![Zenia\_ZA](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zenia_za/32/147817_2.png) [@Zenia\_ZA](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zenia_ZA)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/606 "2018-04-03T19:33:42Z")

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Easy to backchair crit without stating all these great facts you obviously understand better than captain Bastard. Grow a pair and explain your convictions on the topic or shut up.

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**Author:** ![mkint](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkint/32/14424_2.png) [@mkint](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mkint)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/607 "2018-04-04T01:29:56Z")

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Well, it was 2 and a half months ago when I made that statement. At the time, I had explained myself in at least a dozen other identical threads.

People play a game because it is rewarding. No other reason. It activates the dopamine pathways in the brain. People stop playing a game because it stops being rewarding. Not because of any complex rant about morality or ganking or wardecs or any of the other reasons people use as an excuse for being bad at what they do.

The core of something being rewarding is the fun:suck ratio. If things don’t have a certain amount of suck, they aren’t rewarding. There has to be challenges to overcome, otherwise the fun loses its sparkle. And that’s why this thread is stupid, why it didn’t deserve a full response, and why nobody bothered asking for one until now. Threads like this complain that there’s challenge, and that the challenge is other people.

And, now I’m bored (and have been bored of this thread basically immediately and stopped following it months ago) and I don’t have much respect for someone bitching about a 2 1/2 month old post, so I’m not going to bother bringing my idea full circle to deconstruct original topic. And, if 2 1/2 months of not posting isn’t “shutting up”, well up yours. It looks like I am nothing more the canvas upon which you paint a self portrait of your own stupidity.

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**Author:** ![Grand\_Design](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grand_design/32/81842_2.png) [@Grand\_Design](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grand_Design)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/608 "2018-04-04T15:39:30Z")

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I hope all of you have a great day and find peace & happiness.

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