# The real reasons player population is declining

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 16, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517 "2018-01-16T17:54:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/81 "2018-01-17T15:06:06Z")

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PVP in null sec if you must know.

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**Author:** ![Thermal\_Damage](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thermal_damage/32/499248_2.png) [@Thermal\_Damage](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thermal_Damage)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/82 "2018-01-17T15:08:08Z")

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Posting in a tears thread.

Shooting someone in call of duty doesn’t make me a murderer gtfo

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**Author:** ![Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindara_t_soni/32/242945_2.png) [@Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindara_T_Soni)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/83 "2018-01-17T15:09:00Z")

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> [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#):
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> So I’m not allowed to reply to anyone without being butthurt now? Don’t be ridiculous.

Hyprocrite much? 🙄

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**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/84 "2018-01-17T15:11:49Z")

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I don’t really care tbh. Same old rubbish on these forums, can’t say anything without everyone getting triggered.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/85 "2018-01-17T15:14:25Z")

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But of course it does /s

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**Author:** ![Nalana\_Vos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nalana_vos/32/271977_2.png) [@Nalana\_Vos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nalana_Vos)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/86 "2018-01-17T15:31:14Z")

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OP, i like it how you think your opinions should be ours [sarcasm].

You are very much alone in them and its clear you do not understand or played EVE. Please complain more about how bad Eve is and how bad its people when you only know about hisec, the cesspool of eve.

Cry and whine more, preach to us about how well you understand the human nature and what we should be, in order to suit your [singular] needs.

We know, Eve is dead , you hold the path to salvation, if only we would listen, we are bad people with no friends, eve has no content and someone shot your hauler. How about you gtfo we dont need you. We still thrive.

Go play solitaire.

Edit: someone shot your hauler twice…

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**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/87 "2018-01-17T15:36:14Z")

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> [@Nalana\_Vos](#):
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> OP, i like it how you think your opinions should be ours [sarcasm].
> 
> You are very much alone in them and its clear you do not understand or played EVE. Please complain more about how bad Eve is and how bad its people when you only know about hisec, the cesspool of eve.
> 
> Cry and whine more, preach to us about how well you understand the human nature and what we should be, in order to suit your [singular] needs.
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> We know, Eve is dead , you hold the path to salvation, if only we would listen, we are bad people with no friends, eve has no content and someone shot your hauler. How about you gtfo we dont need you. We still thrive.
> 
> Go play solitaire.
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> Edit: someone shot your hauler twice…

This is exactly what I’m talking about. If you don’t follow the narrative you just get a unconstructive personal attack. OP may be wrong in your opinion but that response is completely unecessary. It’s people like you who turn the game into a cess pit.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/88 "2018-01-17T15:42:26Z")

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Nah

This isn’t supposed to be Hello Kitty Online or Doofus or Club Penguin…

This is EVE  
Adapt or Die

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**Author:** ![Nalana\_Vos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nalana_vos/32/271977_2.png) [@Nalana\_Vos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nalana_Vos)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/89 "2018-01-17T15:44:42Z")

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Yess, yess white knight me !

Defend the weak and stupid.

> [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#):
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> people like you who turn the game into a cess pit.

Yes, i am the devil, punch me i can take it 🙂

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**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/90 "2018-01-17T15:49:06Z")

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Your’e embarrassing yourself.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/91 "2018-01-17T15:52:07Z")

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BRING ME MORE DRUGS

Seriously though. I need them for my chronic boneitis.

All those people in hospital must be REALLY immoral the amount they take.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Lopez](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_lopez/32/484486_2.png) [@Mr\_Lopez](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Lopez)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/92 "2018-01-17T15:59:04Z")

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I would love more adaption but the pace of change is ponderously slow… How long does it take to finish tiercide? Ship rebalancing? The glacial response times for action are well noted. Just look at the bot threats here and on reddit. These thing dont operate in a vacuum.

I can have fun with piece of lint and a string from a pair of frayed socks. But I like spaceships and explosions so I’m drawn to eve. Eve is a product and currently I’m not sure what they are selling exactly… That to me is a reason for my lack of subbing over the years.

There have been alot of proposals but little in the term of follow through.

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**Author:** ![Nalana\_Vos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nalana_vos/32/271977_2.png) [@Nalana\_Vos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nalana_Vos)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/93 "2018-01-17T16:01:40Z")

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Let me ask you this, and further ‘‘embarass’’ myself

Why did you started to play eve?  
I shall assume you saw the commercials and heard the rumors of beeing cut-throat, long term planning , a ruthless universe and huge fleets pummeling enemys into the ground. I think you saw yourself the leader of a pirate corporation , a isk mogul, a shrewd mercenarly ace pilot or what ever else.

Guess what those things are real, they did not lie. But you are not the hero in this story, and found yourself the victim.

So you want to change eve so it fits with your ideal. Sorry bud you are part of this universe and you are the content.

If i assumed wrong, and you thought this was ‘‘Hello kitty online’’ get out.

No need to reply to me , i would not want to further embarrass myself,

Edit : Bring me more drugs preferably strong exile 😛  
Edit2: i can see you re-replying and failing : you restarted 3 times now :))

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**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/94 "2018-01-17T16:12:27Z")

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That’s pretty much all wrong sorry.

I started EVE because I stopped playing WoW after Wolk and wanted something new to play. I had tried EVE previously but my computer wasn’t powerful enough to play it smoothly at the time. I tried to again when I had a better computer, I knew nothing about the game at all, I was just flying around exploring (not exploration). I started mission running for a while and then moved to null sec a few years ago. Over the last year I’ve been PVPing when I had time to play, but I don’t get much time because I’m studying maths currently.

The game became boring when I realised I couldn’t do much with the limited time I had to play, and I posted in this thread saying it was boring for that reason. I didn’t mention anything about agreeing with anyone elses point of view, nor did I suggest any changes. ALL I SAID WAS THE GAME IS BORING.

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**Author:** ![Nalana\_Vos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nalana_vos/32/271977_2.png) [@Nalana\_Vos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nalana_Vos)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/95 "2018-01-17T16:14:48Z")

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WoW or hello kitty is that way \>\>

If you managed to make eve boring you sir have took a wrong turn.

Talk about embarrassing yourself.

Thought of the day:  
’‘One questions our right to destroy the carebear people. Those who understand know we have no right to let them live’’

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**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/96 "2018-01-17T16:15:20Z")

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I was hoping I was the one who blew up his hauler ☹

> **[Tayra | Captain Bastard | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/58741737/)**
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> Captain Bastard (State War Academy) lost their Tayra in Madirmilire (Domain) Total Value: 563,920,664.41 ISK

6.5k ehp trash ecm fit with no cloak/wmd. Must be the game making it too easy to gank, not the terrible dumpster fit he put on his ship 🙄

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**Author:** ![Nalana\_Vos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nalana_vos/32/271977_2.png) [@Nalana\_Vos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nalana_Vos)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/97 "2018-01-17T16:16:43Z")

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Suffer not the abomination to taint the sky!

Good job,

PS: Best ship is friendship

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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/98 "2018-01-17T16:16:47Z")

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> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#):
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> This is EVE
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> Adapt and Die anyway (but have fun doing it)

FTFY

–Editor Gadget

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**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/99 "2018-01-17T16:20:33Z")

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Yeah it can’t possibly be the case that it’s an intrinsic consequence of how the game works can it. Everything takes a long time in this game, it’s boring to me, get over it.

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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-reasons-player-population-is-declining/51517/100 "2018-01-17T16:21:50Z")

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Did you seriously ask the personal question just for an excuse to attack?

Bad form, I say.

If a poster offers, by all means, guns away. But don’t bait.

–Gadget - Keeper of de Forum wae

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