# The Real Victim of Ganking? The Ganker **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 19, 2025, 1:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-victim-of-ganking-the-ganker/486618 "2025-05-19T01:48:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-victim-of-ganking-the-ganker/486618/63 "2025-05-19T19:30:08Z")
Don’t you have to turn your Safety to red in high sec before using them? Alpha’s have a problem with that. Their Safety button is broken ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-victim-of-ganking-the-ganker/486618/64 "2025-05-19T19:30:09Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > They nerfed alpha. They did not nerf PvP. @Glenduil I don’t know why you don’t want to admit that ganking has been nerfed. However you do realize why they took going red away from alphas don’t you? It was in reaction to horror tales of innocent new bros being hounded by endless alpha gank armadas. It was meant as a nerf to ganking. (Btw could you give me a training program that will allow me to fly a Loki with an Alpha account? If I could fly a Loki on an alpha account, I could stop paying for omega.) ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-victim-of-ganking-the-ganker/486618/65 "2025-05-19T19:31:11Z")
Asked and answered. Move on. ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-victim-of-ganking-the-ganker/486618/66 "2025-05-19T19:36:18Z")
> [@T\_Elliot](#): > > Forcing someone to pay money for something that was once free is absolutely a nerf to it. EVE started out with no alpha accounts at all. The game has never been free-to-play. CCP has given enough freedom to alphas as it is. What other subscription game provides players with such a free access to their game? This isn’t a nerf to ganking. It is a limitation to unpaying customers. Rightfully so. You pay, you can gank all you want. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-victim-of-ganking-the-ganker/486618/67 "2025-05-19T19:40:22Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > Don’t you have to turn your Safety to red in high sec before using them? Alpha’s have a problem with that. Their Safety button is broken Actually, no. You can use alpha alts to smartbomb pods and shuttles in Highsec. ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-victim-of-ganking-the-ganker/486618/68 "2025-05-19T19:44:54Z")
> [@Meridan\_Night](#): > > This isn’t a nerf to ganking. It is a limitation to unpaying customers. Rightfully so. You pay, you can gank all you want. The fact that something still happens does not mean it is not nerfed. One can be shot with a nerf gun, and one is still shot. The removal of ability of alpha accounts to gank people was meant to be a nerf to gankers. Repeating “the sky is made of mush” over and over does not change the definition of what the words “sky” or “mush” means. (edited 'cause confound it some of you are trying to confuse me!) ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-victim-of-ganking-the-ganker/486618/69 "2025-05-19T19:57:22Z")
It’s fairly obvious that ganking has been nerfed repeatedly. Anyone claiming otherwise is being dishonest. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-victim-of-ganking-the-ganker/486618/70 "2025-05-19T20:13:28Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > It’s fairly obvious that ganking has been nerfed repeatedly. > > Anyone claiming Please cry more. It suits you. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-victim-of-ganking-the-ganker/486618/71 "2025-05-19T20:14:45Z")
Please stop talking to me. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-victim-of-ganking-the-ganker/486618/72 "2025-05-19T20:21:27Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > stop talking to me Get out of my thread, and we’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-victim-of-ganking-the-ganker/486618/73 "2025-05-19T20:22:40Z")
This thread is the property of CCP. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-victim-of-ganking-the-ganker/486618/74 "2025-05-19T20:23:18Z")
As are you… ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-victim-of-ganking-the-ganker/486618/75 "2025-05-19T20:39:20Z")
It seems Aiko has ganked your thread. 🤔 🤭 ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-victim-of-ganking-the-ganker/486618/76 "2025-05-19T20:48:33Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote](#): > > Please cry more. > > It suits you. I am not a ganker. I run missions, do light industry and haul things from Jita, Hek, and Rens trying to sell high and buy low. I am the typical prey of players like Aiko Danuja. That does not stop me from agreeing with her when she is clearly right. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-victim-of-ganking-the-ganker/486618/77 "2025-05-19T21:08:35Z")
> [@T\_Elliot](#): > > she is clearly right. Right about what? ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-victim-of-ganking-the-ganker/486618/78 "2025-05-19T21:42:48Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote](#): > > Right about what? You really can’t fathom why they are defending her even though she’s their enemy. huh. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-victim-of-ganking-the-ganker/486618/80 "2025-05-19T22:15:43Z")
> [@Lydra\_Victor](#): > > defending her I see them defending her statement about ganking being nurfed, that’s not big news. That hardly equals a “ganking is good for the game stance”. It should be removed from HS. Full stop. ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-victim-of-ganking-the-ganker/486618/81 "2025-05-19T22:21:44Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote](#): > > “ganking is good for the game stance”. Like if Tariffs are good for the economy. CCP are paying professionals to determined whether something in eve are good or bad. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote/32/444813_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-victim-of-ganking-the-ganker/486618/82 "2025-05-19T22:26:58Z")
> [@Lydra\_Victor](#): > > CCP are paying professionals 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 They haven’t had a “professional” since the accountant left. * * * ![giphy](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/b/3/1b3345f8f900843376f4a08c009e00590f605559.gif) * * * ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-victim-of-ganking-the-ganker/486618/83 "2025-05-19T22:31:31Z")
I said “Professional”. I didn’t say if they are reliable or not. Like the so called “Experts” saying that Ganking is bad for the game. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-victim-of-ganking-the-ganker/486618.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-real-victim-of-ganking-the-ganker/486618.md?page=5)