# The reason I won't come back to EvE **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [April 7, 2024, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-reason-i-wont-come-back-to-eve/445587 "2024-04-07T23:55:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Phelan\_Kheldian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phelan_kheldian/32/450826_2.png) [@Phelan\_Kheldian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phelan_Kheldian)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 3:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-reason-i-wont-come-back-to-eve/445587/41 "2024-04-08T03:22:24Z")
> [@Werner\_Budingen](#): > > I think the solution here is a new server, a new PVE-only server. Yeah, people were doing this using the test server. That style of play was not what CCP intended when they created Eve. Again, Eve isn’t the game for you. Go play ED… it fits you. This isn’t the first time someone suggested this idea… and I’m sure this will get the same treatment that every other person that suggested it has gotten. (Hint: you’re not going to like it) ---
**Author:** ![BLACK\_METALL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_metall/32/417232_2.png) [@BLACK\_METALL](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BLACK_METALL)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-reason-i-wont-come-back-to-eve/445587/42 "2024-04-08T03:23:50Z")
The person clearly wrote that he does not like this game - that it is online, he wants a single player game. What is there to discuss? ---
**Author:** ![Werner\_Budingen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/werner_budingen/32/417246_2.png) [@Werner\_Budingen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Werner_Budingen)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 4:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-reason-i-wont-come-back-to-eve/445587/43 "2024-04-08T04:07:35Z")
What I don’t like is the dumb job-like applications to join a corp and the also dumb requirements to be always on comms and in fleet, along with the fact that to play where I want, I am forced to join corps/alliances. I love all the rest, including the MMO aspect of it. ---
**Author:** ![Werner\_Budingen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/werner_budingen/32/417246_2.png) [@Werner\_Budingen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Werner_Budingen)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 4:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-reason-i-wont-come-back-to-eve/445587/44 "2024-04-08T04:08:21Z")
This is just a game, wake up. ---
**Author:** ![Werner\_Budingen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/werner_budingen/32/417246_2.png) [@Werner\_Budingen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Werner_Budingen)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 4:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-reason-i-wont-come-back-to-eve/445587/45 "2024-04-08T04:10:30Z")
And if I find an alliance that’s chill and treats the game as a game, their space sucks lol. ---
**Author:** ![Werner\_Budingen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/werner_budingen/32/417246_2.png) [@Werner\_Budingen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Werner_Budingen)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 4:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-reason-i-wont-come-back-to-eve/445587/46 "2024-04-08T04:11:42Z")
There is no hope. CCP knows the crazies who treat EvE as real life are the ones keeping this boat afloat. They know there’s a ton of people who wish they could enjoy the game in different ways, but unfortunately it’s not the majority so they can’t do anything about. I get it. There is no hope. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 4:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-reason-i-wont-come-back-to-eve/445587/47 "2024-04-08T04:12:18Z")
When you have a game 20 some years old, and there are countless stories written about espionage, and spies, and takeovers, you want some protection in place So goons, horde, test, etc. They dont want riff raffs joining. Requirements for coms and what not yea thats a lil too much. Dealt with that before when i was apart of INIT. ---
**Author:** ![Werner\_Budingen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/werner_budingen/32/417246_2.png) [@Werner\_Budingen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Werner_Budingen)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-reason-i-wont-come-back-to-eve/445587/48 "2024-04-08T04:22:18Z")
I’ve been there and done that, been on and off since 2009. I just don’t have the patience for any of the alliance politics BS anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Phelan\_Kheldian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phelan_kheldian/32/450826_2.png) [@Phelan\_Kheldian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phelan_Kheldian)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 4:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-reason-i-wont-come-back-to-eve/445587/49 "2024-04-08T04:43:51Z")
> [@Werner\_Budingen](#): > > And if I find an alliance that’s chill and treats the game as a game, their space sucks lol. Have you ever wondered why their space sucks? I can explain it to you. Because they don’t do the things required to keep their space secure. Like trying to keep spies out… and having people on comms and in fleets so they can organize to defend each other and their space. If you want good space, you have to put forth effort to have good space. Again, Eve is a game that rewards effort. And if its just a game, you shouldn’t care if the space is ‘good’ or not. Sounds like you’re taking the game too seriously… ---
**Author:** ![Werner\_Budingen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/werner_budingen/32/417246_2.png) [@Werner\_Budingen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Werner_Budingen)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 4:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-reason-i-wont-come-back-to-eve/445587/50 "2024-04-08T04:55:00Z")
And so, given that there is no solution, I don’t play. I refuse to have a second job. One is enough. ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-reason-i-wont-come-back-to-eve/445587/51 "2024-04-08T05:34:31Z")
Didn’t you quit 4 years ago because Guristas NPC Nullsec is too dangerous for you, `Veritas Luxmea`? Continuing the discussion from [Returning player quitting again after 2 days](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-quitting-again-after-2-days/276682): > [@Returning player quitting again after 2 days](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/returning-player-quitting-again-after-2-days/276682/1): > > I will remember my characters and these 11 years on-and-off fondly, but i’m done with EvE, forever. Edit: I see you tried to give Frat Academy a try. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-reason-i-wont-come-back-to-eve/445587/52 "2024-04-08T06:30:43Z")
> [@Werner\_Budingen](#): > > I think the solution here is a new server, a new PVE-only server. You can join my minecraft server. ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Shadow\_Broker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_shadow_broker/32/407527_2.png) [@Codename\_Shadow\_Broker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Shadow_Broker)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-reason-i-wont-come-back-to-eve/445587/53 "2024-04-08T07:20:36Z")
If you dont like some playstyles dont play the game. Problem solved. ---
**Author:** ![Yuzima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yuzima/32/416395_2.png) [@Yuzima](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yuzima)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-reason-i-wont-come-back-to-eve/445587/54 "2024-04-08T07:50:56Z")
Since you’re not gonna play no more, please donate your stuff to a new player who will play for the years to come: Me 🙂 Thank you so much and Farewell. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-reason-i-wont-come-back-to-eve/445587/55 "2024-04-08T09:31:05Z")
According to the image below WoW might be more suitable for you: ![cad-20120625-8bb4c.x36140](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/8/1/d8148afe9f9bb25723ede039eb2a358d8d0a4ce8.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elinore_en_divalone/32/507815_2.png) [@Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elinore_en_Divalone)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-reason-i-wont-come-back-to-eve/445587/56 "2024-04-08T09:44:42Z")
I am afraid but you’re mistaken… 😔 You can’t win EVE 😕 It’s not a shame to lose it time and again. See you in couple of years (or months …or days) ---
**Author:** ![Phaelons\_Zimart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaelons_zimart/32/389524_2.png) [@Phaelons\_Zimart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaelons_Zimart)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-reason-i-wont-come-back-to-eve/445587/57 "2024-04-08T10:07:42Z")
ive played it solo since leaving null a good few years and its perfectly playable just everything takes a lot longer. you are either being too impatient or you are one of those players who thinks it should all be given to you ona plate because you pay for the game ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-reason-i-wont-come-back-to-eve/445587/58 "2024-04-08T11:03:10Z")
> [@Werner\_Budingen](#): > > You seem unable to comprehend, so I’ll elaborate: Everything I enjoy doing takes place in player-owned space, which requires me to join them. Nah sorry, comprehend fine. You just made a very ill-structured little whinge-post, so you got an ill-structured reply. You didn’t mention what it is you like that “requires” null sov. So nobody can suggest any alternatives. Although it’s entirely likely you just mean “I want the highest possible farm payout but I don’t want to deal with the consequences of farm-space”. You didn’t mention the many corps that don’t have “dumb” requirements - possibly because you lack the initiative to find them. You didn’t mention why NPC null can’t work; again you likely just don’t want to put in any effort. You also apparently missed the whole “start your own corp, run it any way you like” point. But that’s obvious why it won’t work - you’d have to interrupt your farming and _do_ something. Fact is, your post reads like “I joined a null corp for the farming, but then they kicked me out because I do nothing but farm and never contribute to the corp in any way. So I hate null corps, they’re all dumb!” If you didn’t post like a disgruntled 12-year-old, you’d likely get better answers. All of this, still a ‘you’ problem. If you suck, you can’t play games that require you to not suck. Stop sucking. Learn2play. ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-reason-i-wont-come-back-to-eve/445587/59 "2024-04-08T11:50:25Z")
> [@Werner\_Budingen](#): > > I think the solution here is a new server, a new PVE-only server. Holy crap, all those play-pretense there is a problem, those “I don’t care about you”, to end up being a propaganda post. What a level of hypocrisy. TLDR : entitled OP wants to have a PVE-only server, will distort reality to make it look like his opinion is an absolute truth while it’s only his personal taste. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-reason-i-wont-come-back-to-eve/445587/60 "2024-04-08T12:05:27Z")
> [@Werner\_Budingen](#): > > I don’t care about EvE pvp where a 300k frigate can kill a 4 billion marauder If that’s your stance then the game is probably better off without you. Bye. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-reason-i-wont-come-back-to-eve/445587.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-reason-i-wont-come-back-to-eve/445587.md?page=4)