# The Rise and Fall in Bitcoin Value **URL:** \ **Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\ **Created:** [January 18, 2022, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290 "2022-01-18T13:41:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 126
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/2551 "2022-12-17T17:47:27Z")
> [@Aedaxus](#): > > Or bye like an “exchange run”? Those appear more frequently than the so called bank runs. Ironically. Probably just a perception issue on your side. This exchanges are completely optional and everyone knows the phrase “not your keys, not your crypto”. If you leave money on this exchanges you know you risk losing it. Meanwhile in fiat you have no choice, because the money doesn’t exist without this banks, they are the fundamental operating system of the fiat system. And governments don’t hesitate just debasing their currency to save the banksters that gambled away your money by just printing a huge pile of money and basically stealing value from the people by doing so. Luckily we are no longer required to save our money in this system run by criminals and frauds. ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/2553 "2022-12-17T18:49:48Z")
> [@Aaron](#): > > but it might get completely ignored and fail. As long as they are prepared to accept this it’s fine. That’s not what happens with national currency. Not sure if you can show some examples of national currencies that get ignored… well; maybe crypto in El Salvador, but hey… > [@Aaron](#): > > BTC and crypto will be totally normal to anyone being born today BTC will > [@Aaron](#): > > I like honest convo Honest? You aren’t honest. Stop pretending , you are one of the people who make crypto look like a scam. ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/2554 "2022-12-17T18:52:59Z")
> [@Aedaxus](#): > > Honest? You aren’t honest. Stop pretending , you are one of the people who make crypto look like a scam. I’m not sure what you’ve based this on, but if you think that that’s fine, say no more and ignore crypto. ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/2555 "2022-12-17T18:53:13Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Probably just a perception issue on your side. My side? I don’t own crypto. I know what it’s used for. I know the lie of the ‘privacy’ and I think it’s funny. > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > because the money doesn’t exist without this banks Neither does any crypto exists as every coin is a bank on itself, lol. And unlike governments it’s owned by some random crackhead or criminal. Most of them are in jail. Some have avoided getting caught. Also, funny you consider all governments (who actually stand behind the central banks) non existent. Not sure if you are right, lol. I recently saw a video of some of the delusional ‘economical geniuses’ who was describing how with CBDC the government would delete the money of everyone because of inflation! 😃 lol, what a clown. But hey I guess economical geniuses think alike… 😃 > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Luckily we are no longer required to save our money in this system run by criminals and frauds. That’s quite a statement about society you just made, lucki to hear BTC will solve all the issues certainly when 99.99% of it’s users are criminals. Good luck in your dark age cult. ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/2556 "2022-12-17T18:58:02Z")
> [@Aedaxus](#): > > That’s quite a statement about society you just made, lucki to hear BTC will solve all the issues certainly when 99.99% of it’s users are criminals. Good luck in your dark age cult. Pointless discussing anything with you, go ahead and pretend everything is 100% perfect in society and there are no problems with currency anywhere in the world. Just don’t expect people who watch the news to agree with this delusion. ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/2557 "2022-12-17T19:06:59Z")
> [@Aaron](#): > > go ahead and pretend everything is 100% perfect in society and there are no problems with currency anywhere in the world. One more straw man. ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/2558 "2022-12-17T19:54:13Z")
> [@Aaron](#): > > Pointless discussing anything with you, go ahead and pretend everything is 100% perfect in society and there are no problems with currency anywhere in the world. Just don’t expect people who watch the news to agree with this delusion. Hahahahahahahaha! Hilarious! Are you actually delusional by thinking BTC will solve the economical problems? How? 2000 posts and only a “trust me, bro” as ‘proof’. Do you know how bad BTC went down after being regulated by law? Do you know that governments are creating CBDC’s to offer (KYC + financially safe) crypto to the general population? Yet you keep saying “no one will use it” and you fail to add the “for crime” because you are dishonest like some weirdo scammer. Did you know crypto failed in El Salvador? Yes, Do you care? Lol, no. It’s just a failed colonization, #NotAaron’sProblemTrustMeBruh > **[Bitcoin Fail - 80% Of El Salvador’s People Believe The President's Crypto...](https://bitcoinist.com/bitcoin-80-salvadorans-say-crypto-program-failed/)** > > Bitcoin took the internet by storm in 2021 when El Salvador - the smallest country in South America - announced it will make the cryptocurrency a legal tender. I told you it would end badly, but even after shutting down your mining you keep on repeating “just two more weeks, bruh!”. LOL. PS 🙄 You can support Russian’s oligarchs all you like, just don’t lie about how it helps “the poor” : > **[Is Central African Republic’s crypto push linked to Russia?](https://african.business/2022/10/technology-information/is-central-african-republics-crypto-push-linked-to-russia)** > > The Central African Republic's plans to introduce Bitcoin are "very likely" linked to efforts to help Moscow dodge sanctions, experts say. ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/2559 "2022-12-17T21:53:12Z")
As I said, if you think BTC/Crypto can’t assist society that is up to you, Just don’t expect everyone to follow in your ignorant delusion, they will not, most people try to gain an understanding before talking on a subject you simply have no idea what crypto is and how it can help society. Essentially you’re saying blockchain tech is useless when applied to a digital currency, How is it criminal to have all transactions for a coin stored on a ledger that can’t be changed? Your view of the world is totally different from mine and it’s totally fine for you to have your view, just don’t expect people to follow your delusion that crypto can’t solve any problems in society, it’s simply not true an you will insult the intelligence of people who understand. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/2560 "2022-12-17T21:56:38Z")
> [@Aedaxus](#): > > lucki to hear BTC will solve all the issues certainly when 99.99% of it’s users are criminals. Lol, it’s not like the other points you made are less ridiculous, but this stands out a lot. How desperate for an argument do you even have to be to just make stuff like this up. There is a huge difference between what I write here and what you do. I only write what I honestly believe are facts and I’m willing to change my position on a point if I’m shown to be wrong. You just make ■■■■ up on the fly and think that’s somehow a contribution to a discussion. Dude, you are just desperate at this point. You have nothing useful to say. We all know you are butthurt about Bitcoin, but it’s getting ridiculous. Your posts are getting indistinguishable from the stefi clown show lol. ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/2561 "2022-12-17T22:01:28Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Lol, it’s not like the other points you made are less ridiculous, How can someone actually write and believe this though? 99.99% of BTC users are criminals?? This has got to be the dumbest thing I have seen written in a long time. I’m totally baffled. One can’t even begin to undo such ignorance he’s totally stuck in his false beliefs. ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/2562 "2022-12-17T22:25:23Z")
> [@Aaron](#): > > As I said, if you think BTC/Crypto can’t assist society that is up to you, Just don’t expect everyone to follow in your ignorant delusion, Self contradiction. A delusion is when you think something that is not reality. So if the thought of reality are “up to you” then you are by definition delusional. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/2563 "2022-12-17T22:26:35Z")
He is just completely out of arguments and rage-tipes random accusations. His whole post just reads like he vomited his anger all over it without any real point. ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/2564 "2022-12-17T22:27:53Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > I only write what I honestly believe are facts You checked personally if all transactions were not of a criminal nature? No, you didn’t liar. ‘privacy’ lol. > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Dude, you are just desperate at this point. No, you have money in there. Money you accepted to loose. But still your desperation on defending a system that’s on it’s way to irrelevance is kinda hilariously funny. ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/2565 "2022-12-17T22:29:32Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > without any real point. In your mind SBF did nothing wrong like Epstein. Most of the things you read about crypto is crime. But still here you are trying to stop me from exposing the truth. Pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/2566 "2022-12-17T22:32:55Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > He is just completely out of arguments But not out of money unlike those being scammed by crypto on a daily basis. Yet still you are here defending it. You could act/post naive like SBF, but everyone who read up knows better. ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/2567 "2022-12-17T22:35:37Z")
> [@Aaron](#): > > One can’t even begin to undo such ignorance he’s totally stuck in his false beliefs. He said proudly, while not mentioning the people of El Salvador and the people of the Central African Republic. ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/2568 "2022-12-17T22:44:32Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Lol, it’s not like the other points you made are less ridiculous -29.422,10 (63,75%) rofl, the price is still down from the same day last year. Still. LOL. Straight to irrelevance. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/2570 "2022-12-17T22:48:50Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Fun fact: that is more than 1/3 of all the value of all the cryptocurrencies in existence It’s not a fun fact. It’s a worthless information. Just because you are fined does not make you a criminal. Most of us would be otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/2571 "2022-12-17T22:51:30Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > the currency you are so fond of and trust in. Unsourced claim. Your “either you agree with us or you are fond of that currency” assumption is stupid. Grow up. Stop being an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/2572 "2022-12-17T22:53:31Z")
Ah yea, CZ and his ‘privacy enabling’ web of companies. Who is your hero today and a scammer the next day. Another ‘prime example of a law abiding citizen’. 😃 If anyone would have made a movie about it, it would be under ‘fiction’. I do like it how SBF lured Kevin O’Leary in his scam. So funny, it’s beyond funny. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/9/5/2954f92c58d0a49db212318d50e6bd6a43db611a.jpeg "Binance CEO "CZ" Exposes Himself as a Fraud | Crypto Collapse.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsFh36Q--5g) [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290.md?page=125) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290.md?page=127)