# The Rise and Fall in Bitcoin Value **URL:** \ **Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\ **Created:** [January 18, 2022, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290 "2022-01-18T13:41:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/361 "2022-04-28T09:23:30Z")
> [@Mina\_Zealot](#): > > it’s just about Bitcoin and how volitile it can be in its value. Nothing says volatile like AUDJPY ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/f/b/dfbe57719d94ccd530cab10aac72f38cc4668c4f.png) You do realise fiat curencies have been floating since 1971 thanks to Nixon. If you want more volatile charts, let me know; I’m sure I can find more. Forex is the worlds most razor thin traded market, and it can be volatile, you simply cannot trade on it without leverage. ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_zealot/32/305585_2.png) [@Mina\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/362 "2022-04-28T09:27:31Z")
> [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](#): > > If you want more volatile charts, let me know; I’m sure I can find more. > > Forex is the worlds most thinly traded market, and it can be volatile, you simply cannot trade on it without leverage Everything is ‘volatile’ these days, even people’s reason and common sense. ---
**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/363 "2022-04-28T09:27:52Z")
These days? It always has been volatile, you just either ignore or don’t see it. ---
**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/364 "2022-04-28T09:29:59Z")
SPGSCI/SPX ratio chart. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/b/7/fb7f14db3fe055ebbdb365015540373027aee2a7.png) The pivot into commodities has begun. If you’re holding equities, you might want to reevaluate your model and investment thesis. This chart should scare the bejebus out of you. I have other scary charts too. ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_zealot/32/305585_2.png) [@Mina\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/365 "2022-04-28T09:34:00Z")
> [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](#): > > These days? It always has been volatile Yes it has. Can’t deny that. Then again, Life itself is volatile, meaning prone to changes. I only included “these days” because I’ve only lived and experienced ‘these days’, I wasn’t there in 1706 to see the differences but I imagine those differences are major. Just watching a film from the 80’s feels like watching a different world all together > [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](#): > > you just either ignore or don’t see it. It’s not so much a question of ignoring, it’s more like not paying attention as taken for granted, just knowing is enough to move on unimpeded by the idea that everything can just go to sh- within the space of a second. ---
**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/366 "2022-04-30T08:38:39Z")
Let me just post this scary chart again with some comparissons and annotation to highlight why it is scary. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/b/4/bb41189b2dc66543bc80de6ae43402bd27d91178.png) Wake up people. 2030 you will own nothing and be happy. You will be a renter of things. Rising prices, wages falling behind, offices and personal contact being diminished, less supplies, you’re being herded. Herded into synthetic food and renting. Watch for more “events” (spontaneous fires, shutdown accidents and scarcity) impacting your essential supplies. ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_zealot/32/305585_2.png) [@Mina\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/367 "2022-04-30T10:06:34Z")
> [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](#): > > 2030 you will own nothing and be happy Or we’ll be dead. Some people are pushing for a third world war and doing everything they can to get it started. > [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](#): > > Wake up people They’re in a coma right now. It will hurt when they wake up and hyperinflation may just be the thing to do it. > [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](#): > > you’re being herded. Herded into synthetic food and renting. You mean herded into mass graves. > [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](#): > > Watch for more “events” (spontaneous fires, shutdown accidents and scarcity) impacting your essential supplies It’s been getting worse since the end of WWII, no reason to think it isn’t going to continue. ---
**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/368 "2022-04-30T10:07:36Z")
The difference between now and the past, it is out in the open for those clear to see, they don’t even hide it, they’re quite proud of their mission to reset everybody into their vision of how you should live. It’s going to cost, and cost a lot in so many metrics. ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_zealot/32/305585_2.png) [@Mina\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/369 "2022-04-30T10:09:11Z")
> [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](#): > > It’s going to cost, and cost a lot in so many metrics It’s going to cost everything and everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/370 "2022-04-30T11:38:12Z")
![stonks](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/6/8/9689f54bd57d71e21786416a9639dc812290c2d8.png) LOL ---
**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/371 "2022-04-30T11:40:02Z")
Blow off the top is going to be televised in glorious red colour with surround sound screams. Preppers are in the cat bird seat. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/372 "2022-04-30T11:43:55Z")
Wonder if Bitcoin will decouple stronger now, if the stonks actually start to get demolished. If not and investors still treat this as a risk on asset, it will be a very nice opportunity to stack some cheap Sats ---
**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/373 "2022-04-30T11:47:21Z")
Money pivoting into commodities is the end of the equities run. You cannot have the same money in both markets at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_zealot/32/305585_2.png) [@Mina\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/374 "2022-04-30T11:47:56Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > it will be a very nice opportunity to stack some cheap Sats What would that avail you when humanity is busted down to the stone age? And that’s if we’re lucky. ---
**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/375 "2022-04-30T11:49:41Z")
> [@Mina\_Zealot](#): > > What would that avail you when humanity is busted down to the stone age? Ahh but they have the solution to the problem they create, and you will demand it. Remember, in order to reset something you have to turn it off or destroy it first. Great reset, build back better. They even told you. Still a conspiracy? ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_zealot/32/305585_2.png) [@Mina\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/376 "2022-04-30T11:54:15Z")
> [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](#): > > Ahh but they have the solution to the problem they create, and you will demand it. I personally won’t demand anything but I get your point. Only it doesn’t always pan out as they project and there is a huge snag to their plans that they haven’t figured into and I hope I’ll be there to laugh into their confused faces. ---
**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/377 "2022-04-30T11:56:00Z")
When you’ve no money to get food, or unable to get food, they present you with their solution of money and food, you will take it purely for existential reasons, be it UBI or synthetic food, it won’t matter at that point what will matter is getting your hands on food. 1 week without water will be hell, 4 weeks without food will be hell. You won’t be able to move or do anything. We also seen unrest after about 4 weeks during lockdowns of not having food. Blackmarket will be rampant, regional crime lords will rule and move in to get people food and votes, we also seen this in some places. We also saw looting and riots. ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_zealot/32/305585_2.png) [@Mina\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/378 "2022-04-30T11:57:35Z")
> [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](#): > > When you’ve no money to get food, or unable to get food, they present you with their solution of money and food, you will take it purely for existential reasons, be it UBI or synthetic food, it won’t matter at that point what will matter is getting your hands on food Yeah, that’s what they **hope**. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/379 "2022-04-30T11:58:35Z")
> [@Mina\_Zealot](#): > > What would that avail you when humanity is busted down to the stone age? And that’s if we’re lucky. I don’t believe that. I have a pretty positive outlook on the future > [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](#): > > Great reset, build back better. They even told you. ![reset](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/6/6/366c8f0ebdb463bb0bb245f83dc8eb55dfb8390e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_zealot/32/305585_2.png) [@Mina\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/380 "2022-04-30T11:59:34Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > I don’t believe that. I have a pretty positive outlook on the future Let’s see if your positive outlook can stop a tactical nuke. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290.md?page=18) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290.md?page=20)