# The Rise and Fall in Bitcoin Value **URL:** \ **Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\ **Created:** [January 18, 2022, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290 "2022-01-18T13:41:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/381 "2022-04-30T12:02:05Z")
> [@Mina\_Zealot](#): > > Let’s see if your positive outlook can stop a tactical nuke. Can your negative outlook do that? If I’m right, I have prepared for a good outcome and will profit from it, you don’t If I’m wrong we are both ■■■■■■ ---
**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/382 "2022-04-30T12:02:26Z")
Start prepping for having no internet and/or electicity blackouts. ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_zealot/32/305585_2.png) [@Mina\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/383 "2022-04-30T12:02:55Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > If I’m right, I have prepared for a good outcome and will profit from it, you don’t How do you know I don’t ? ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/384 "2022-04-30T12:04:55Z")
> [@Mina\_Zealot](#): > > How do you know I don’t ? Because you are criticizing me for it being pointless because of your fears of the world ending in a ball of fire. Why would you do that if you then act completely differently? I’m just assuming you are not completely dishonest. Am I wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_zealot/32/305585_2.png) [@Mina\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/385 "2022-04-30T12:06:42Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Why would you do that if you then act completely differently? I’m just assuming you are not completely dishonest. Am I wrong? I prepare for good outcome _and_ bad outcome. That’s why when sh- hits the fan I’ll be prepared and you won’t be. See, the reverse can be true too. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/386 "2022-04-30T12:09:57Z")
Good for you. How do you prepare for a tactical nuke? Do you dig a bunker? ---
**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/387 "2022-04-30T12:11:21Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Do you dig a bunker? You live above one. Your houses don’t have them below? ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_zealot/32/305585_2.png) [@Mina\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/388 "2022-04-30T12:11:59Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Good for you. How do you prepare for a tactical nuke? Do you dig a bunker? There’s such a thing as being at the right place at the right time. As for the rest, I trust you’re intelligent enough to figure it out. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/389 "2022-04-30T12:14:52Z")
> [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](#): > > You live above one. Your houses don’t have them below? All our houses here have air raid shelters from back in WW2. They never got used but they still exist. Anyway, I leave you two to your ramblings about the end of the world and conspiracy stuff. Not super interested in that mindset. ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_zealot/32/305585_2.png) [@Mina\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/390 "2022-04-30T12:19:48Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Not super interested in that mindset It’s not a ‘mindset’. It’s the ability to read events and extrapolate from there, considering every outcome possible, weighing the possibilities and making sound judgment on the information. > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > I leave you two to your ramblings You’re welcome for the hour of entertainment Emotional\_Support\_Clown and I have provided to you. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/391 "2022-04-30T12:29:06Z")
> [@Mina\_Zealot](#): > > It’s not a ‘mindset’. It’s the ability to read events and extrapolate from there, considering every outcome possible, weighing the possibilities and making sound judgment on the information. Well it is, because it clearly heaviliy influenced the outcome of your assessment of the situation. I think it’s a sense of helplessness and lack of self-confidence that leads people down this path. ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_zealot/32/305585_2.png) [@Mina\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/392 "2022-04-30T12:30:27Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Well it is Believe what you will. It makes no difference to me. ---
**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/393 "2022-04-30T12:44:25Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > I think it’s a sense of helplessness and lack of self-confidence that leads people down this path. How’s your energy prices? “interdependency” is not so great is it now? That’s what globalists want, interdependency, seems it backfired. They also shut down their own local productions which furthers that dependency on others. Herd is being herded. Dependency is the greatest form of control. Same applies to food production. You haven’t seen it bad yet. The effect is lagging, next season might not be so fruitful and same cost. Farmers can’t afford to farm, so they switch crops. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/394 "2022-04-30T14:48:28Z")
> [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](#): > > How’s your energy prices? “interdependency” is not so great is it now? Yes, it’s bad, but the source of the issue is that we are still dependent on fossil fuels, not some global conspiracy, despite knowing that they sooner or later will run out. It doesn’t matter if the energy crisis is now or later, it will now create oportunities to build out renewables. A lot of money will be flooded now into that sector. And renewables are by their nature local and decentralized. > [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](#): > > … Herd is being herded… Don’t agree with the rest. Just because you point to an obvious issue we all experience, doesn’t justify anything in the rest of your post of completely unrelated stuff without evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/395 "2022-04-30T14:51:14Z")
Either way you’re paying more and not going to get what you think you’re getting. They simply import from somebody else, you’ve changed nothing except the bill. You’re better off hoping for fusion generators than hoping for windmills to save your energy needs. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/396 "2022-04-30T14:54:25Z")
Do you feel completely powerless? ---
**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/397 "2022-04-30T14:54:45Z")
No, we have renewables, great when the Sun’s out. Down tools when it’s cloudy. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/398 "2022-04-30T14:55:15Z")
I take that as a yes. ---
**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/399 "2022-04-30T14:55:26Z")
Only on cloudy calm days. ---
**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2022, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290/400 "2022-05-02T15:17:46Z")
To control the people you control the food supply. Food supplies (production facilities) seem to be blowing up recently and in large numbers and shipments being stopped of farming supplies. Not to mention control of synthetic farming/production being invested in and farmland being bought up en masses. Your food is about to be changed. Remember, they have been shouting on about how bad cattle farming is to the weather and meat is bad. They have also planned to put more medicines (if you can call it that) in food (they already do this for some foods). If that doesn’t scare you, I don’t know what will. To control a country you control the money and oil supply. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290.md?page=19) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-rise-and-fall-in-bitcoin-value/346290.md?page=21)