# The Road to Nerfdom: Highsec's Carebear Future **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 22, 2018, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-road-to-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future/114853 "2018-10-22T09:00:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-road-to-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future/114853/83 "2018-10-23T18:23:21Z")
Okay man, been nice talking to you. Didn’t mean to offend, I just thought it odd that you were wanting a citation on the fact that CONCORD exists and has a delay. Strikes me as a weird thing to be skeptical about, but to each his own. EDIT: Also, what the hell would I have cited? Was there ever a point at which CCP made the announcement: “Attention capsuleers, CONCORD both exists and has a delay, that is all.” Doesn’t really seem like them, they like to just let us figure stuff out, especially in like 2004 when this announcement would have been timely and relevant. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-road-to-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future/114853/84 "2018-10-23T18:23:49Z")
At least we found some middle ground here where we could all agree that you are wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-road-to-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future/114853/85 "2018-10-23T18:25:26Z")
## Carebear victory near! ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/b/7bd07d419c8710ee6302b80b46da3e8ff0712b96.png) ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-road-to-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future/114853/86 "2018-10-23T18:25:37Z")
This game is simple: whatever you choose to do ingame as a player or group of players, you provide your own security. ---
**Author:** ![Sleno](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sleno/32/185052_2.png) [@Sleno](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sleno)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-road-to-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future/114853/87 "2018-10-23T18:27:17Z")
Appreciate that man. Getting the blood boiling now and then isnt bad. @Mevatla_Vekraspek cited the 8 golden rules of eve above which proved your point man. Does not validate carebear ganking but does validate high sec not being designed to be 100% safe. We are cool it was a good conversation have a great day. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-road-to-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future/114853/88 "2018-10-23T18:29:29Z")
The 8 golden rules were released relatively recently. Did you just not know that CONCORD both exists and has a delay? Are those two facts not enough to prove that Highsec clearly wasn’t designed to be safe? Sorry, these questions are just eating at me. ---
**Author:** ![Sleno](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sleno/32/185052_2.png) [@Sleno](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sleno)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-road-to-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future/114853/89 "2018-10-23T18:29:51Z")
I have been gone for 8 years man a lot has changed. Stuff has been forgotten. Still getting use to the new atmosphere. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-road-to-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future/114853/90 "2018-10-23T18:30:31Z")
When you played 8 years ago, CONCORD existed and had a delay, did you just not know? It’s okay if you didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Sleno](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sleno/32/185052_2.png) [@Sleno](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sleno)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-road-to-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future/114853/91 "2018-10-23T18:31:22Z")
I honestly never noticed a delay when i first started i shot at someone and CONCORD got me right away didnt seem like a delay. after that i never did it again. So i guess i wouldnt know about the delay. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-road-to-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future/114853/92 "2018-10-23T18:31:56Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > Carebear victory near! The way CODE et al are scrambling, I believe you might be right. And they know it. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-road-to-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future/114853/93 "2018-10-23T18:36:22Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > > [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > > > You guys need to get your stories straight before posting. > > He just made a quick average over the last 10 kills. I was talking about my whole killboard history. Should have been obvious, but that doesn’t mean you can’t ask in the future if you have similar trouble understanding simple stuff. Last 10 to all kills = pretty much the same average. Which one of you is lying? Statistics. Learn them, love them. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-road-to-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future/114853/94 "2018-10-23T18:39:41Z")
I’ve never understood the type of trolling where they just act really stupid… ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-road-to-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future/114853/95 "2018-10-23T18:43:01Z")
> [@Sleno](#): > > I honestly never noticed a delay when i first started i shot at someone and CONCORD got me right away didnt seem like a delay. > > after that i never did it again. So i guess i wouldnt know about the delay. Fair enough, brother. So I suppose you just figured CCP had devised a cool graphical way of enforcing the game rules, okay that’s somewhat understandable. BTW those were probably gate/station-guns instapopping you, not CONCORD. The exact roles of gate guns, faction police, and CONCORD are commonly misunderstood. ---
**Author:** ![Sleno](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sleno/32/185052_2.png) [@Sleno](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sleno)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-road-to-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future/114853/96 "2018-10-23T18:45:11Z")
Then maybe someone should type a document out to make them clear 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-road-to-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future/114853/97 "2018-10-23T18:46:12Z")
LOL you can always talk to gankers. We’ve got it all worked out. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-road-to-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future/114853/98 "2018-10-23T18:46:15Z")
> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > All I can say is that my values align with the ruthless competitive PVP game with no safe zones that is the whole idea behind EVE Online. Maybe looong time ago, but it is not any more, Hello Kitty is comming 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-road-to-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future/114853/99 "2018-10-23T18:46:21Z")
> **[Gank](http://www.minerbumping.com/p/blog-page.html)** > > This page contains links to the posts I made concerning how the Knights of the Order operate. Each link is followed by a (very) quick summar... ---
**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-road-to-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future/114853/100 "2018-10-23T18:50:22Z")
> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > My playstyle is _hunting carebears_ , and it’s by design. A feature, not a bug. Now is bug and it will be removed from game because your playstyle hurt profit margin. ---
**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-road-to-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future/114853/101 "2018-10-23T18:51:40Z")
> [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](#): > > maybe? Obsolete and removed by new owners. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-road-to-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future/114853/102 "2018-10-23T18:53:14Z")
> [@Predvodnica\_LSG](#): > > Now is bug and it will be removed from game because your playstyle hurt profit margin. Keep dreaming, carebears. 🕶 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-road-to-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future/114853.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-road-to-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future/114853.md?page=6)