# The sense of mismatch caused by the ISK coefficient is driving players away from Sovereign area **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 16, 2021, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833 "2021-10-16T20:40:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/64 "2021-10-18T12:26:56Z")
> [@Rekindle](#): > > You don’t know eve 1/8 as well as you think you do by the sounds of it. This post gets 5 out of 7 from me. ---
**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/65 "2021-10-18T14:27:41Z")
0.7142857142857143 Thats not bad at all for a Monday. ---
**Author:** ![Twijn\_Sunz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/twijn_sunz/32/289865_2.png) [@Twijn\_Sunz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Twijn_Sunz)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/66 "2021-10-18T14:46:04Z")
Another complain thread that will get locked and forgotten. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/67 "2021-10-18T16:24:24Z")
> [@Rekindle](#): > > > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > > > Have you ever considered playing EVE with any purpose that’s _not_ trying to make as much fake video game money as you possibly can? > > I thought eve could be played anyway people want to. If someone wants to make isk who the @#$ are you to judge pal? I am entitled to judge because I am the person holding the moral high ground after performing a lot of introspection and rejecting avarice and all of its ill, corrupting effects on the human psyche. My words are pure, and bring enlightenment to those who see but shadows on the cave wall. ---
**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/68 "2021-10-18T16:29:00Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > I am entitled to judge In other words you’re full of complete bunk. Moving along. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/69 "2021-10-18T16:32:44Z")
Amigo, you responded way too quickly to that. Haven’t you heard of the rules of online dating? You have to wait at least fifteen minutes after the first message, or they’ll think you’re desperate. ---
**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/70 "2021-10-18T16:43:01Z")
Waah!! We want EZ Mode!! Waaah!! Waaaaah! Wah! 😭 😩 😭 😢 ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/71 "2021-10-18T19:58:51Z")
Do you think I use a lie as an argument? I will not publish this method, although I think it is already widely known. As I said before, the biggest wealth gap is always the information barrier. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/72 "2021-10-18T20:02:51Z")
If it’s so good then why do you care about your null stuff as it’s clearly inferior. ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/73 "2021-10-18T20:06:15Z")
Yes, I know that he is trying to prevent players in the sovereign region from gathering together for production. I think the current situation is not achieving the effect they want. First of all, I can give a practical example, Toilet Paper, this medium-sized alliance is more concentrated than the previous farm area. Secondly, the current ISK coefficient directly reduces Farm income, and the reliance on mining instead encourages small companies to join large alliances to obtain a super flagship umbrella. I know that 2CP may further weaken Rorqual and enhance the ability of small mine ships. This is probably the direction of their next changes. Combined with what I stated before, I think that ESS is very good, but the ISK coefficient has caused a lot of adverse effects. ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/74 "2021-10-18T20:08:49Z")
> [@Rekindle](#): > > well as you think you do by the sounds of it. Maybe ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/75 "2021-10-18T20:13:24Z")
Very good, your reply shows your superb reading comprehension level and imagination. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/76 "2021-10-18T20:20:29Z")
> [@Zoran\_Arch](#): > > Do you think I use a lie as an argument? I think a lot of people exaggerate to push whatever agenda they interested in at the time. And lately there are a lot of claims that highsec makes more isk/h than null…not by high sec characters themselves, but by null bears. Weird eh? > [@Zoran\_Arch](#): > > I will not publish this method Then get ■■■■■■… If you can’t back up the claim then you may as well say that you are indeed lying. ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/77 "2021-10-18T20:25:06Z")
No matter what judgment you make. I will not disclose my income method, if you can’t even cross such a low threshold information barrier. I think you don’t even have a vague concept of the various production methods in various regions of the universe. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/78 "2021-10-18T20:43:03Z")
> [@Zoran\_Arch](#): > > I will not disclose my income method The thread is utterly pointless without it. Not only are you being dishonest about it but because you won’t disclose it then there is no way to even vaguely measure what adjustments need to be made to either null nor high-sec to bring back ‘balance’. This thread can be summed up as thus: ‘_please buff nullsec income by an arbitrary amount because i have numbers that i have pulled out of my arse. But i can’t tell you those numbers because you should already know them_’. To which I’m sure you can understand the honest and correct response truly is: get ■■■■■■. ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/79 "2021-10-18T20:44:02Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > The thread is utterly pointless without it. > > Not only are you being dishonest about it but because you won’t disclose it then there is no way to even vaguely measure what adjustments need to be made to either null nor high-sec to bring back ‘balance’. > > This thread can be summed up as thus: > > ‘_please buff nullsec income by an arbitrary amount because i have numbers that i have pulled out of my arse. But i can’t tell you those numbers because you should already know them_’. > > To which I’m sure you can understand the honest and correct response truly is: get ■■■■■■. Speechless. Me. It’s just that you don’t know, 2CP knows, don’t worry too much about what I’m saying they don’t understand. And I believe that many people can understand the phenomenon I’m talking about, but you don’t know it. The biggest wealth gap in this game comes from information barriers. My suggestion is, if you want a high-income approach, please search for strategy by yourself and become a studious person. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/80 "2021-10-18T20:51:58Z")
Ah, yes, the “I have all the proof therefore I don’t need to show it” defense. ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/81 "2021-10-18T20:56:11Z")
Yeah, I do think like you said. First of all, I don’t want to disclose this information barrier. Second, I don’t want to write a long PVE strategy. In fact, a person who does not want to learn will not become anymore Richer, this time has nothing to do with which region he is active in. Whether in EVE or in Earth online, this is the case, I think this is normal, everyone can understand. ---
**Author:** ![Xucca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xucca/32/373499_2.png) [@Xucca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xucca)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/82 "2021-10-18T20:57:05Z")
Since there is no basic understanding of what a “closed environment” is, helped by this way from the NULL _community_ to always have their priorities INVERTED, there has never been something indispensable called “cohesion” towards making things work. If anyone in EVE wishes to have something done AND has the meanings to push for it, it should be the NULL “uncommonwealth”. But you guys have no idea what should be first on the list, for having your epiglotis stuck with cake and your left foot on a never ending “war” tap cycle. It would be wise to accept that way on top of stupid SOV conflict --which BTW, you should stop completely at once-- that only follows the game designers and developers’ proposal, should prevail a common ground, an intention, a plan. But since you guys, OH NULL ALMIGHTYANS, CRYBABIES OF THE VOID have no cohesion or a plan, the ability to kick ass --as you should-- is compromised. Get together… create your own scheme, don’t be shy!.. establish a coherent plan! If anyone has the resources to manipulate production, distribution and allocation, is YOU! and btw… only you have the power to enforce any cohesive directive. And do not get me wrong, you impotent-pseudoneuritic-protobrain bearer! I am also a NULL dweller and SOV defendant and carebear and whatever you have. I AM! but I know my place and behave as such. I follow orders too. Get together, I say!! and you will see it all burn while your will be done! No, right? It is easier to expose your carapace to the darts of a lawless forum instead of checking on what you can do as an entity. . **Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.** — Napoleon, 1769-1821, French Emperor ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/83 "2021-10-18T20:58:55Z")
> [@Zoran\_Arch](#): > > I think this is normal, everyone can understand. Nope. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833.md?page=5)