# The sense of mismatch caused by the ISK coefficient is driving players away from Sovereign area **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 16, 2021, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833 "2021-10-16T20:40:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/84 "2021-10-18T21:01:00Z")
I think designers will be happier to have a believer like you. Then let the sovereign area become an embarrassing and desolate children’s playground. ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/85 "2021-10-18T21:02:12Z")
I can understand that you don’t understand. ---
**Author:** ![Xucca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xucca/32/373499_2.png) [@Xucca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xucca)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/86 "2021-10-18T21:04:40Z")
> [@Zoran\_Arch](#): > > I think designers will be happier to have a believer like you. > Then let the sovereign area become an embarrassing and desolate children’s playground. Grow a pair and do it yourselves. These are not the grounds to harvest the answers you don’t seed where you should. It’s a battleground, damnit! You have the effing higher ground! BEHAVE AS SUCH! ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/87 "2021-10-18T21:10:44Z")
> [@Xucca](#): > > Grow a pair and do it yourselves. These are not the grounds to harvest the answers you don’t seed where you should. > > It’s a battleground, damnit! You have the effing higher ground! BEHAVE AS SUCH! I think this is the place for discussion. It is not a sovereign war in the game. My views have been stated above. I don’t want to discuss whether the sovereign area should be a battlefield or a children’s playground. If you don’t agree with my point of view, you can attack these arguments and arguments, just like questioning the income level I mentioned above, you can attack some more specific things. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/88 "2021-10-18T21:18:36Z")
> [@Zoran\_Arch](#): > > It’s just that you don’t know, 2CP knows That’s right. They _ **do know** _. And they apparently just nerfed nullsec some more. ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/89 "2021-10-18T21:22:06Z")
This happens to be the reason why I made this post. I think what I said is very clear. It’s just a part of it, you can’t understand it. **I was suddenly very interested. If there is really a way to get a high income in the Highsec Lowsec area, would you think that the current income in the sovereign area is MIsmatch?** ---
**Author:** ![Xucca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xucca/32/373499_2.png) [@Xucca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xucca)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/90 "2021-10-18T21:30:26Z")
> [@Zoran\_Arch](#): > > I think this is the place for discussion. It is not a sovereign war in the game. My views have been stated above. > I don’t want to discuss whether the sovereign area should be a battlefield or a children’s playground. And also you want to decide what I should say too? You fail to see that all I’m trying to do is encourage you?, to make you see that if someone has it. the higher ground is yours? That by posting on the forum instead of using the time to make things happen the way you want them to happen, is a complete waste? All I’m trying to make you see is that there is another way instead of being contestatory when facing the proposal of devs and admins. When in reality, it is not them but you who should be pulling the strings. You can try on taking it personal anytime. I invite you to read again and see that whatever you couldn’t achieve within, never gonna happen out here. You have the power. Use it! ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/91 "2021-10-18T21:31:28Z")
> [@Xucca](#): > > And also you want to decide what I should say too? > You fail to see that all I’m trying to do is encourage you?, to make you see that if someone has it. the higher ground is yours? > That by posting on the forum instead of using the time to make things happen the way you want them to happen, is a complete waste? > > All I’m trying to make you see is that there is another way instead of being contestatory when facing the proposal of devs and admins. > When in reality, it is not them but you who should be pulling the strings. > > You can try on taking it personal anytime. I invite you to read again and see that whatever you couldn’t achieve within, never gonna happen out here. You have the power. Use it! Who is it that denies the power of others to make suggestions? I think this is a good platform for players to make suggestions. I don’t have any special status, and I don’t have any special powers. I just want to express my opinion. I chose this place. Even, I actually don’t care so eagerly about whether EVE can get better. Because I don’t work for 2CP and I don’t get paid. Of course you can speak freely here. I suggest that you can discuss my statement below this post, which may be more appropriate. Whether it is agreeing or rebutting. ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/92 "2021-10-18T21:41:20Z")
Oh, because of my English level? So I have a wrong understanding of your first comment, I apologize to you, but I still want to say, I just want to say, I don’t want to put too much effort into it. And the sovereign alliances have naturally responded, with more expansion and aggression against the pirate zone. Larger territory and fewer active players. I see that everything is getting worse, so I post here. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/93 "2021-10-18T21:43:16Z")
CCP needs to let things happen naturally… you guys wanna leave nullsec for whatever reason, isk etc fine… don’t ask ccp to give you buffs to stay… ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/94 "2021-10-18T21:44:26Z")
I know, your view is very classic. Play or leave, we are free, otherwise shut up and accept silently, Of course you can say this, because it really has nothing to do with your interests, this Highsec Player ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/95 "2021-10-18T22:16:55Z")
This reminds of me when I used to kill chinese farmers in Azhera or whatever its called. Good times. All playstyles are valid, but also all players deserve to get blapped. Learn to EVE buddy. ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/96 "2021-10-18T22:32:09Z")
Lol frat is a bastion for cowards who fled their homes. Makes sense they would be here winging about the game being too hard. ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/97 "2021-10-18T23:02:10Z")
Check my solo record. This character is probably more than 20 Ishtar solo, and it’s probably more than 40 including other characters. The purpose of my statement is that I like harvesting and not very Farm. I am stating the problem, the unreasonable problem that is currently occurring. It has nothing to do with nationality ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/98 "2021-10-18T23:04:49Z")
> [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](#): > > Lol frat is a bastion for cowards who fled their homes. Makes sense they would be here winging about the game being too hard. In fact, Fraternity. Because of the problem of isk coefficient, it is expanding in the north at a very fast speed. It has already driven away many small alliances in the north. Why Fraternity. is not satisfied with the current territory, because of the ISK coefficient. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/99 "2021-10-18T23:07:22Z")
> [@Zoran\_Arch](#): > > Check my solo record. This character is probably more than 20 Ishtar solo, and it’s probably more than 40 including other characters. The purpose of my statement is that I like harvesting and not very Farm. I am stating the problem, the unreasonable problem that is currently occurring. It has nothing to do with nationality So you can fit a ratting ishtar? Congrats? I love the ish personally. I hate that krabs like you have made it into a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/100 "2021-10-18T23:08:43Z")
I am just good at destroying Ishtars. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/101 "2021-10-18T23:13:21Z")
It ain’t hard unless they actually combat fit. Its ok mate. Krabbers can krab. Just don’t cry that you might have to fight for that right bruv. ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/102 "2021-10-18T23:14:15Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Learn to EVE buddy. Learn to EVE buddy. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/103 "2021-10-18T23:20:10Z")
> [@Zoran\_Arch](#): > > Check my solo record. This character is probably more than 20 Ishtar solo, and it’s probably more than 40 including other characters. The purpose of my statement is that I like harvesting and not very Farm. I am stating the problem, the unreasonable problem that is currently occurring. It has nothing to do with nationality Engaging in PvP doesn’t magically make your argument any more valid. Just because you occasionally willingly fight doesn’t mean that when you ask for more farming income it suddenly becomes a noble cause. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833.md?page=6)