# The sense of mismatch caused by the ISK coefficient is driving players away from Sovereign area **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 16, 2021, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833 "2021-10-16T20:40:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/104 "2021-10-18T23:23:46Z")
Neither he nor I discussed the issue of income in detail. He discussed killing Farmer, and I also talk about my experience. Don’t worry too much ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/105 "2021-10-18T23:31:05Z")
> [@Zoran\_Arch](#): > > Learn to EVE buddy. Someone has learned how to copy and paste 😃 Now learn how to krab better. > [@Zoran\_Arch](#): > > Neither he nor I discussed the issue of income in detail. He discussed killing Farmer, and I also talk about my experience. Don’t worry too much Bro you ARE the farmer. ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/106 "2021-10-18T23:32:35Z")
Actually I earn LP in the pirate zone.Come out of your own imagination ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/107 "2021-10-19T06:58:27Z")
Ratting is farming too. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/108 "2021-10-19T08:04:02Z")
> [@Zoran\_Arch](#): > > Actually I earn LP in the pirate zone.Come out of your own imagination Er. You’re still farming bro. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/109 "2021-10-19T08:21:33Z")
Also upon rereading the thread’s title Im left wondering whats the problem with leaving “the sov zone”? ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/110 "2021-10-19T11:43:51Z")
That ccp introduces more competitiveness into the game can hardly be called a bad move, especially when looking at the bounties, where FRT scores the highest numbers in bounty income (Vale of the Silent), not counting the income they receive from similar activity from their many renters. If pilots within the same alliance start squabbling over ISK/hr, perhaps they are on their way to learn a fundamental truth, and ccp should dry wash their hands. On the point of faction ships, OP makes a good point. Plus the Praxis and Gnosis are the new plague and certainly do not support any aspect of player driven supply, as these ships are seeded by ccp. And no, OP, not everyone needs to be living in null currently, or be a part of FRT and its main activities, to understand anything about balancing the economics in the game itself. A disagreement on the methods used is the opinion of non-devs, after all. ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/111 "2021-10-19T18:57:56Z")
Continue to immerse yourself in your imagination, if it makes you feel better ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/112 "2021-10-19T18:59:06Z")
Inexperience means ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/113 "2021-10-19T19:02:15Z")
> [@Zoran\_Arch](#): > > Continue to immerse yourself in your imagination, if it makes you feel better Bro, you’re literally a chinese krab crying about not being able to krab without risk. It makes me cackle. ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/114 "2021-10-19T19:07:46Z")
I do not expect more people to become part of the activities of the Sovereign Alliance. With increasing expansion and decreasing population, this place is becoming desolate. The original population gradually became inactive or moved to other places. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/115 "2021-10-19T19:08:14Z")
So what you’re saying is its ripe to move in there huh? Where are you again? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/116 "2021-10-19T19:08:36Z")
Continue to use imagination ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/117 "2021-10-19T19:10:03Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > So what you’re saying is its ripe to move in there huh? Where are you again? Check my ZKB record, you can find me easily ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/118 "2021-10-19T19:12:57Z")
> [@Zoran\_Arch](#): > > Check my ZKB record, you can find me easily Oh I will 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/119 "2021-10-19T19:37:59Z")
It might indeed be a good time to grab a cruiser and take a roam into their territory now that so many of their people have moved to greener pastures, and you’ll only be dropped by like 300 titans instead of the usual 800. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/120 "2021-10-19T19:45:19Z")
Yennoe, I may have to this weekend, at least for the lulz 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/121 "2021-10-19T19:48:08Z")
Please warp to the first planet and wait for the defense fleet to form. After the numbers are sufficient enough to ensure a 40:1 numerical superiority, you will be provided further instructions on where to go in order to relinquish your ship in an honorable and fulfilling combat gameplay engagement. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/122 "2021-10-19T19:48:52Z")
Heh, well now I have to go 😃 I shall post my experience here. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/123 "2021-10-19T19:49:44Z")
Well no, it doesnt thats why they are different words. And your assumption I dont have enough experience to tell you to grow a spine and stop crying just because I dont kill anyone in pvp regularly just shows you have nothing but weak willed tears and begging as yours. > [@Zoran\_Arch](#): > > The original population gradually became inactive Good. The more krabs that leave the better the “experience” for everyone else [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833.md?page=7)