# The sense of mismatch caused by the ISK coefficient is driving players away from Sovereign area **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 16, 2021, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833 "2021-10-16T20:40:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/124 "2021-10-19T19:56:53Z")
someone near the starter system i believe was relieved of their 21B ibis hauling 32 LSI’s. ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/125 "2021-10-19T20:36:20Z")
> [@Zoran\_Arch](#): > > Speechless. > Me. If only… –Gadget Speaks ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/126 "2021-10-19T21:00:30Z")
Any time, no matter how long, very welcome, looking forward to our meeting ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/127 "2021-10-19T21:03:56Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Well no, it doesnt thats why they are different words. > > And your assumption I dont have enough experience to tell you to grow a spine and stop crying just because I dont kill anyone in pvp regularly just shows you have nothing but weak willed tears and begging as yours. Yeahyeahyeah, I don’t know much about EVE, I lack knowledge, experience, ability, information, powerlessness.I’m like this, it’s really not you. You rarely PVP, but you are experienced and skilled. ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/128 "2021-10-19T21:16:32Z")
You are very good at fantasy and hypothesis. What if I also participate in a battle without the advantage of numbers? Your frustrated imagination will only highlight your narrowness and despicability, and these fantasies will make you feel better. Taking my recent combat records as an example, we have had many small team battles with the BOSS when the number of people was at a disadvantage. I do all kinds of things, solo, team battle, fleet battle, I will participate. Organization and strength let us have sovereignty. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/129 "2021-10-19T22:10:43Z")
You have very little solo kills. Lets be real krab, you hot drop a blob on peeps and thats about it. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/130 "2021-10-19T22:15:27Z")
most of the comment are bashing you because you are in alliance that is famous for having bot literaly evrywhere ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/131 "2021-10-19T22:19:16Z")
Talk less, do more ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/132 "2021-10-19T22:23:10Z")
Well, most of the players are outside the sovereign area ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/133 "2021-10-19T22:24:47Z")
> [@Zoran\_Arch](#): > > Talk less, do more Bro some of us have to work. Not all of us are lucky enough to work in a Chinese ISK farm and get paid to krab mmkay? ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/134 "2021-10-19T22:26:32Z")
Too much talk ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/135 "2021-10-19T22:28:12Z")
But keep responding and most importantly didn’t deny being a paid krab. Interesting… ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/136 "2021-10-19T22:28:55Z")
No need to reply to dog barking ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/137 "2021-10-19T22:47:55Z")
Yet you do 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/138 "2021-10-19T22:49:42Z")
> [@Zoran\_Arch](#): > > You are very good at fantasy and hypothesis. What if I also participate in a battle without the advantage of numbers? Your frustrated imagination will only highlight your narrowness and despicability, and these fantasies will make you feel better. > Taking my recent combat records as an example, we have had many small team battles with the BOSS when the number of people was at a disadvantage. > I do all kinds of things, solo, team battle, fleet battle, I will participate. Organization and strength let us have sovereignty. You think that all of our replies deal with you personally, but they actually don’t. The issues don’t lie with you as an individual, but with you as a collective. ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/139 "2021-10-19T22:55:27Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > You think that all of our replies deal with you personally, but they actually aren’t. The issues don’t like with you as an individual, but with you as a collective. That kind of pertinence can be expressed directly, without insinuating against me personally. There is no need to insinuate every member, it will become a narrow and despicable prejudice. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/140 "2021-10-19T23:01:19Z")
There is nothing wrong with being prejudiced against other EVE players. Your choice of in-game activities and associations doesn’t make you a socially/politically-protected individual. That’s why when Ramona calls you a filthy krab and says how good your tears taste and how better off the game would be without you and your friends, I can clap my hands and yell out “oh, jolly good!” in my best fake British accent _without actually becoming a bad person for it_. ---
**Author:** ![Zoran\_Arch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoran_arch/32/292895_2.png) [@Zoran\_Arch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoran_Arch)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/141 "2021-10-19T23:04:02Z")
Yes, your indiscriminate discrimination does not make you despicable and narrow-minded at all. Because it’s you, so i can understand ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/142 "2021-10-19T23:38:53Z")
Do your masters know you’re wasting time on the forums instead of krabbing? ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833/143 "2021-10-20T00:06:00Z")
> [@Zoran\_Arch](#): > > With increasing expansion and decreasing population, this place is becoming desolate. The original population gradually became inactive or moved to other places. I agree that isk is a necessary resource for sov holders, and that those changes follow a line similar to the scarcity episode we all endure. If the place becomes more desolate, or people move to other places, as you say, then that is what ccp hoped it would establish: movement, and when confronted with another group, a conflict driver (which is more “content” for the game as well). At the same time, with fewer people around the penalties slowly revert to normal, which is good for those that stayed behind, no ? If it results in there being less cohesion in the alliance/coalition, and people wandering off or leaving to other groups, then the leaders have some motivational tasks to perform. That is (thankfully) not CCP’s task. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-sense-of-mismatch-caused-by-the-isk-coefficient-is-driving-players-away-from-sovereign-area/332833.md?page=8)